how do you know this
most polling show biden ahead with trump at a slight advantage due to the electoral college
would bernie had been stronger in the general?
Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden for President
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how do you know this
most polling show biden ahead with trump at a slight advantage due to the electoral college
would bernie had been stronger in the general?
Getting rid of Trump doesn't save the country, it just gives it a couple more years of life support. Removing Trump is, and always have been, Step 1 of a laundry list of necessary steps if you want to "save the country."
I knew it was coming, but it's still ugly to watch people have to kiss the ring of such a terrible person as Biden. Even though Bernie was my compromise candidate.
Having to explain that if they don't vote for one rapist the worse rapist will win is also pretty shitty. But I understand the bigger picture.
In a swing state it is. Safe blue or red you got a point. But a swing state where every vote counts, it absolutely helps Trump.
Endorse a rapist or get hounded your whole life otherwise. Wonderful.
Uncle Rapist could have been shamed out of the party and literally any other candidate would be better but no, gotta circle the wagons and throw victims under the bus.
After this weak predator loses to a stronger predator it will dawn on us how far backwards we have leaped by turning a blind eye to rape and how much it will cost us moving forward.
Uncle Rapist could have been shamed out of the party and literally any other candidate would be better but no, gotta circle the wagons and throw victims under the bus.
After this weak predator loses to a stronger predator it will dawn on us how far backwards we have leaped by turning a blind eye to rape and how much it will cost us moving forward.
well she dislikes him about as much as bernie likes him, so
It's incredible that Sanders will have a hand in shaping policy for Biden-- a much needed get imo. This gives more than enough cover for people who've said they support Sanders for his policies to vote for Biden now whether they personally care for him or not.
What do you think guys, do we capitalize the f in for or not?
And now I'm mad the mods didn't fix it.
Shame on Sanders for endorsing this Rapist piece of shit.
I said it at the start of all of this bullshit that there's no circumstance in which I vote for Biden and that continues to be true. Fuck Biden and fuck his life long history of being a corporate bootlicker and trying to fuck over people like me and definitely fuck voting for a Rapist.
I said it at the start of all of this bullshit that there's no circumstance in which I vote for Biden and that continues to be true. Fuck Biden and fuck his life long history of being a corporate bootlicker and trying to fuck over people like me and definitely fuck voting for a Rapist.
no shit, if Bernie thought something like a third party candidacy for president was viable he would never have been in the primaries in the first place
100%
I don't have to like Joe, but damn if I live through another 4 years of Trump.
Trump won by 5,000 votes across a mere handful of states.
Not voting for Biden isn't literally a vote for Trump, but it is figuratively.
That's an easily achievable number to overcome as long as folks refuse to give in to apathy like they did in 2016.
Yes it is. It's a negative vote and brings Trump 1 vote closer than Biden.
Yes, it is. You're enabling him to win. Trump's voters will turn out. Every voter that abstains, or worse, throws away their vote, is a vote in Trump's pocket. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise, and need look no further than 2016 for the proof.
If you want to stay home, that's your prerogative, but don't stick your head in the sand.
You are comedy gold, truly. You didn't even address my original point either. 10/10. And I'm all for that lesser of two evils shit, always have been. Just be careful before you accidentally lose possible voters on the fence with your arrogance. Some people's voting decisions are affected by internet conversations a good deal more easily than mine are.
I disagree with this take. I think Biden has a strong shot. He's a safe, accessible enough guy for moderate republicans to consider given the train wreck that is Trump. I know a good deal of people that are older that used to be conservative (and really still are), but aren't Trumpers. They're fine with Biden and feel much more at ease with him than Bernie. These are people that vote, every time, they show up and their friends do too.
I'm not a Biden fan at all. But he has a lot of mainstream appeal. Especially in this era of everything being uncertain and a disaster - people just want normalcy and an adult. People see Biden as that and the primaries show that.
How many people in these threads live in swing states would you guess?
You are the political equivalent of a console fanboy. You care more about your "guy" winning than doing the right thing for the country.
Bernie lost. Because more people wanted Biden as the nominee.
It's time to accept that fact. It sucks. It isn't what I wanted. But that's what happened and now we need to move forward.
not really.
Joe is going to pick Kamala Harris as Veep or someone compatible like her. Then move forward with the general with the rest of party.
the longer Liz stays silent, the longer she is forgotten
Biden asks Bernie if he has any questions for him, and Sanders mentions a $15/hr min wage and if Biden endorses it, and Biden says he does but then also gives a longer winded response about unions and other things. It's about..... ~14-15mins into the stream FWIR.
Lmao, kicking out Trump isn't saving the country. He's a reflection of how fucked the country is, Biden is a small bandaid. With the country being as fucked as it is, you'd think more socialist policies would be appealing but nope. Dems gonna be worthless and get Repubs to nominate a worse cunt than Trump if Biden wins.
If there's anything Biden has demonstrated over his career it's willingness to change with the times and with the party.
What part of their whole "not me, us" thing do you not understand? People who supported Sanders will come to their individual opinions about whether or not voting in self-defense is worth the cost of voting for an alleged rapist whose policies aren't substantially better than the 8 years preceding the Trump administration and the catastrophes the precipitated from it (e.g. kids in cages, climate crises like Maria, health crises like COVID19).
Anyway, the left don't rally behind figureheads the way the moderates do. What I'm trying to say is that this whole endorsement thing won't be enough; if you're so excited about Biden, go earn the votes for him with the same energy you go for the vote of "independent" votes and "moderate" Republicans. Or don't; it's no skin off my back.
he took 3 months longer to endorse 4 years ago against someone who was allegedly capable of mass murder and coverups, he ain't scared now
It's a mathematical truth that any vote that doesn't go to the seemingly losing candidate in a two people election, clears the way to one with the most votes.
In other words
I've been over America for a bit now, and it is what it is at this point. I will never put a +1 to an old segregationist and rapist who's never had to account for his actions to ascend to the highest office of the presidency.
If you live in Arkansas it isn't. If you live in NY or Cali it isnt. If you live in FL, WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV etc it is. Sorry that's just how it is. In a two horse race, your inaction is just as culpable as your actions.
What indicates that he's going to pick Kamala Harris? I feel like that's just wishful thinking.
I also do not see how what you said address is Warren's resistance.
How about shaming them for giving another rapist, liar, billionaire, narcisist idiot the power instead?
I mean for fucks sake in what world would you do anything but the maximum to ensure trump is out of office? Its like choosing between a turd and a turd that could end america....which would you choose? Ill go for the turd thank you very much
Her endorsement is literally worthless at this stage of the game. Bernie endorsing Biden before Warren makes it that way tbh.
I wonder if Biden makes his VP selection quicker than usually, maybe next week or the week after.
I know this is kind of alarmist but with the threat of COVID-19, I think it helps to have a VP nominee already in place.
I know this is kind of alarmist but with the threat of COVID-19, I think it helps to have a VP nominee already in place.
Heh, I'm not sure you folks are in a position to lecture others about pursuing strategies that don't work.
Vote shaming is a dumb phrase. it's telling people the reality. if reality makes you feel "shamed" that's on you. I'm tired of people saying telling people the truth, what their inaction means, is "shame".
Oof. It's going to be hard trying to convince voters to show up for Blue Trump versus Red Trump. Democrats should have nominated basically anyone in the party other than Biden.