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Xe4

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,295
To quote myself from earlier in the thread:
Nate SIlver posted a pretty good take on regarding the NYT election tracker back during the Alabama special election:
The Upshot's model shows good news for Jones, but it has also been swinging around a fair bit. A few minutes ago, they had him with a 90 percent chance of winning, but that probability is now back down to 67 percent.

I really admire what the Upshot folks are trying to do, but it's also worth noting that building a live-updating model based on partial returns is a really hard problem. Among other things, its hard to calibrate your estimates of uncertainty based on empirical data, because (to put this in a nontechnical way) every state and every election is different. So I'd keep a watchful eye on the Upshot's dials to get an overall sense of how things are trending, but I wouldn't take the probabilities too literally, at least until later in the night.

Remember guys, it's modeling, shit ain't easy, but that don't mean there's no use for it. Don't disparage it, just as you shouldn't put too much faith in it. Think of it as another tool to let you know how the night is going.

Just as you shouldn't freak out if it says a hurricane is going to land in your area a week and a half away, you shouldn't loose your mind when it comes to the model predicting races early on. That doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye on it.

The same applies to 538's live model. Keep an eye on it, but it's not the only thing, especially early on in the race.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,645
A warning, specifically, if I recall, right? There's nothing wrong with warning people. It helps set the tone and can even be used as a friendly reminder. It's not like they were asking for a banning, and If I'm wrong on that, you can call me out on it. I think you're overreacting.
Warnings become bans if the user has received warnings for other things. Also looks like pessimism wasn't all that unwise tonight.
 

BriGuy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,275
If the Dems don't take the house, I'm done. Just completely done. I'm not doing this to myself anymore and I'm not going to give a shit about the plight of people who don't give enough of a shit about themselves to vote.
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
30,113
I remember when we all swore off the needle, yet everyone here is so focused on the 538-o-meter
 

Tamanon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,768
I think people are going to have to review again what the live tracker actually calculates based off of, lol.
 

Rean

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,330
i am not american (eu) but i was there during the 2016 elections working night shifts, and today i am also working my night shift.

and i am having a strong deja vu reading this thread.

dont fuck up again america
 

saelz8

Member
Dec 25, 2017
114
The people that voted for Trump still want to vote for Trump. Trump isn't the problem. He's a representation of the problem. He's a manifestation of millions of people in this country, and their views given form.
 

RBH

Official ERA expert on Third Party Football
Member
Nov 2, 2017
33,188
A quick glance at this page is the reason why I can't watch any election night coverage or follow this thread, just like in 2016.

Makes my anxiety jump through the roof.
 

Brinbe

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
59,099
Terana
Looks like KY 6th is out of reach. Damn, made it a close race.

Think Dems will hold the house but things won't turn out as well as we hoped considering who's in the WH.
 

Ukraine

Banned
Jun 1, 2018
2,182
As somebody who watched 538 odds during world cup I would not look too much onto them. They are basically saying how things looking right now not were they will end up. That said I'm having flashbacks of 2016 because Florida sucks.
 

Davey Cakes

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,702
Massachusetts
User Banned (1 Week): Trolling
I'm a leftist but the Dem party showed their colors in 2016 by squashing Bernie in favor of a corporate war monger.

If there is a time to be humbled, it's now.
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042