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Dan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had a chat with a few female friends of mine a couple of weeks back about instant red flags in early dating - living at home with parents was although not one of them, but it certainly was a put-off. The independence of having your own place (not living with parents or housemates) is something they valued a lot
 

Sedated

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Apr 13, 2018
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You seem to be in a confused don't know what to do phase. I am too. I'll suggest to stick around till your grandma is there and get your savings up till then as much as possible before taking that plunge (new place, new job etc) so you are ready to face a possible failure and come back from it well.
 

Tap In

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Oct 28, 2017
2,034
Gilbert AZ
get out and leave your parents in peace for crying out loud they took care of you long enough now let them have their quiet time alone

Just come visit occasionally
 

FeliciaFelix

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Oct 27, 2017
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Some people are so shortsighted. There's nothing unsexy about a man who was a good son then bought his house cash and has all debts mostly done by age 35. That's trading financial security for "freedom" of walking naked in the house. There's a good rant about neoliberalism conning people into conning people into debt for stupid shit but I'm tired
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,005
If parents want you gone, move out

If parents like having you around don't.
Don't listen what half these people say.

I live with my parents, my social life didn't suffer, I got married, I have tons of free time due to not having to overwork due to the savings I've made. And I'm looking to buy my 2nd house as a investment. If I moved out early I probably would still be renting looking to buy my first house. However due to the saving I've made by staying with parents I've been able to have multiple vacations a year, do stuff every weekend as I got the money to spend and be sorted for a early retirement.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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get out and leave your parents in peace for crying out loud they took care of you long enough now let them have their quiet time alone

Just come visit occasionally

Damn as an Asian guy this stuff is crazy.

Perhaps white people like their private time and want their kids gone. My parents get upset if I want to move out they want to keep me forever.
It's a win win, my parents get help from me, and I get to save money.

In my area there is a shift where there are alot of lower class white people paying rent, and there are a ton of landlords who own multiple house and they are asian. It all makes sense now.
 

Tap In

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Oct 28, 2017
2,034
Gilbert AZ
Damn as an Asian guy this stuff is crazy.

Perhaps white people like their private time and want their kids gone. My parents get upset if I want to move out they want to keep me forever.
It's a win win, my parents get help from me, and I get to save money.

In my area there is a shift where there are alot of lower class white people paying rent, and there are a ton of landlords who own multiple house and they are asian. It all makes sense now.
don't you want to live your life? would you want to be responsible for another adult person for your entire life?

I understand Sacrifice by parents but at a certain point it's time for the child to turn around and pass it down to another generation and leave the elders to live in peace and give them Joy withwith their own accomplishments.

I do understand and appreciate that you are helping them though as well if you are helping them physically or financially especially
 

Kaim Argonar

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Dec 8, 2017
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I lived at my parents place until I was 32 after being working in a pretty good job for several years (and still am). Then after all those years of hard work and sacrifices made to save money I bought and paid my house in full and have been living there ever since a few months after I bought it. Best thing I've done for myself in my whole life.
I've always had a great relationship with my parents and they really really wanted me to stay with them anyway and rent the house. But it was about damn time I left.
 

Seductivpancakes

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Oct 25, 2017
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don't you want to live your life would you want to be responsible for another adult person for your entire life?

I understand Sacrifice by parents but at a certain point it's time for the child to turn around and pass it down to another generation and leave the elders to live in peace and give them Joy withwith their own accomplishments
That's not how Chinese culture work lol.

It's perfectly normal for three generations to live under the same roof. Obviously this isn't always the case all Chinese families but it's common.

Maybe to other cultures it's seen as leaving your parents to enjoy their peace but a lot of Chinese parents view it as being abandoned. Especially if you have kids, they'll be extra upset that they aren't around their grand kids 24/7.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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don't you want to live your life would you want to be responsible for another adult person for your entire life?

I understand Sacrifice by parents but at a certain point it's time for the child to turn around and pass it down to another generation and leave the elders to live in peace and give them Joy withwith their own accomplishments

But I do live my life

And my parents don't want me to go either, they life the company. I think this is a cultural thing. Asian people like to spend more time together. I'm not exactly responsible for my parents. They get by themselves I help them out by paying for bills and sometimes get some groceries.

You say leave them in peace, what makes you think they are not living in peace now?

Perhaps there are other barriers. It depends.

For example I live in a 4 bedroom house with 2 reception rooms and 2 bathrooms. Everyone can get their privacy if they want in the same house

Let's say there was only 1 reception room and only 3 bedrooms it could be an issue
 

KodeAndGame

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Oct 26, 2017
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The excitement of West coast tech is idealized a bit too much IMO. Cost of living wrecks people out there and for what? Maybe consider a gig w a consultancy. There can be more varied opportunities and you might travel. Not usually to exciting places lol but occasionally you get some good ones.

Also nothing wrong staying with family if they enjoy it and you contribute (sounds like both are true). Take it from someone who misses my family all the time - staying nearby is underrated. Save up to buy some nice Atlanta real estate. Maybe you buy something big enough for the whole family.

Edit: I'm Hispanic so I totally understand what you're saying about being around family. Hold onto that if you can.
 

Tap In

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Oct 28, 2017
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Gilbert AZ
But I do live my life

And my parents don't want me to go either, they life the company. I think this is a cultural thing. Asian people like to spend more time together. I'm not exactly responsible for my parents. They get by themselves I help them out by paying for bills and sometimes get some groceries.

You say leave them in peace, what makes you think they are not living in peace now?

Yes I understand the cultural difference. And I edited my post to say I understand and appreciate your contribution to their life whether it be Financial or physical or maybe emotional.

Obviously it comes down to what they want.

When I said would you like to live your life I meant look at it from your parent's perspective don't they deserve to live a life that's not based only around their children's experiences?

If you have children wouldn't you want to let them go and grow on their own and be adults and allow you to continue to grow and live your life as an adult or do you feel you would have to be responsible to making sure they are okay until the day you die?

I just think there is a pattern among several Generations right now who don't appreciate that.

just because their parents gave birth to them does not mean they don'td need to give the parents the space to live their own lives.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Yes I understand the cultural difference. And I edited my post to say I understand and appreciate your contribution to their life whether it be Financial or physical or maybe emotional.

Obviously it comes down to what they want.

When I said would you like to live your life I meant look at it from your parent's perspective don't they deserve to live a life that's not based only around their children's experiences?

If you have children wouldn't you want to let them go and grow on their own and be adults and allow you to continue to grow and live your life as an adult or do you feel you would have to be responsible to making sure they are okay until the day you die?

I just think there is a pattern among several Generations right now who don't appreciate that.

just because their parents gave birth to them does not mean they don'td need to give the parents the space to live their own lives.

I'll tell my kids it's up to them. Do what makes you happy. I'll tell my kids they can live with me as long as they want no pressure to move out. If there is no space ill plan a way to all live in a bigger house together. With me and my parents there is a mutual understanding, I life living with them and they like living with me. It benefits both of us, if I feel it doesn't work I am excused to move out whenever.
 

Tap In

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I'll tell my kids it's up to them. Do what makes you happy. I'll tell my kids they can live with me as long as they want no pressure to move out. If there is no space ill plan a way to all live in a bigger house together. With me and my parents there is a mutual understanding, I life living with them and they like living with me. It benefits both of us, if I feel it doesn't work I am excused to move out whenever.


Yes. I don't get that but good for you if it works

More importantly if it works for your parents.

but any situation where a child is still living with their parents or parents they owe it to their parents to reconcile the possibility that their parents might want to move on and have their own lives as adults with only occasiional visits with their children.

not to mention those parents who have already told their kids they would like them to move out as soon as they can and yet they continue to take advantage.

I understand that's not you but there are many out there that do
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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People should move out when they have money enough to afford, and nowadays is harder to reach that point. That being said, moving out shouldn't also be something that you kept delaying over the years. It's not simply about your social life and independence, moving out is also a key factor in growing up, and the latter you do that step the worse it can be. (that's said by someone who also moved kinda late because I couldn't simply afford it till that point).
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Yes. I don't get that but good for you if it works

More importantly if it works for your parents.

but any situation where a child is still living with their parents or parents they owe it to their parents to reconcile the possibility that their parents might want to move on and have their own lives as adults with only occasiional visits with their children.

not to mention those parents who have already told their kids they would like them to move out as soon as they can and yet they continue to take advantage.

I understand that's not you but there are many out there that do

If you read my first ever post in this thread, I told the OP if they want you to move out MOVE.

However if parents like having you around I don't understand the concept of being a burden on your parents and not letting them live their own life. Majority of Asians prefer company. I know this sad old woman who lives on her own down the road and the kids barely visit.

One of my cousin's works in a hospital and says it's crazy when they have white patients they have barely any visitors. But with Asian patients you have too many visitors the hospital has to limit how many can come at the same time.

Lots of old people say one of their biggest regrets before we death is not keeping contact with friends and family
 

Phonzo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yes I understand the cultural difference. And I edited my post to say I understand and appreciate your contribution to their life whether it be Financial or physical or maybe emotional.

Obviously it comes down to what they want.

When I said would you like to live your life I meant look at it from your parent's perspective don't they deserve to live a life that's not based only around their children's experiences?

If you have children wouldn't you want to let them go and grow on their own and be adults and allow you to continue to grow and live your life as an adult or do you feel you would have to be responsible to making sure they are okay until the day you die?

I just think there is a pattern among several Generations right now who don't appreciate that.

just because their parents gave birth to them does not mean they don'td need to give the parents the space to live their own lives.
You say you understand but you clearly dont/
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Anyways Tap In I'm not going to continue the conversation just do you and do what makes you happy I'm not going to say one culture is superior than the other.
 
Owing to a kind of life "reset" after moving back from out of state, I'm staying with a parent while I stuff money under the mattress because I refuse to rent ever again.

I would much rather have my own place. So that's what I'm working toward.
 

Chromhound

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Dec 19, 2017
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I'm 26 and came back to my mom house after my breakup. I'm saving for a house/condo. Lost all my freedom
 

Tap In

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Oct 28, 2017
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If you read my first ever post in this thread, I told the OP if they want you to move out MOVE.

However if parents like having you around I don't understand the concept of being a burden on your parents and not letting them live their own life. Majority of Asians prefer company. I know this sad old woman who lives on her own down the road and the kids barely visit.

One of my cousin's works in a hospital and says it's crazy when they have white patients they have barely any visitors. But with Asian patients you have too many visitors the hospital has to limit how many can come at the same time.

Lots of old people say one of their biggest regrets before we death is not keeping contact with friends and family

No, sorry I did not see your first post I was just replying to you replying to me.

as I said it really is a matter of what the parents want.
if they want that situation then of course by all means.

My opinion is referring to children staying when their parents may not want them to be there longer. as I mentioned in some cases not even giving their parents a choice or finding out what they really want for their lives.

I don't disagree that there are many Elders who would be lonely or alone without their children and yes some people like to have family around and more company than others.

I just think that children become way too reliant on their parents.

it's just my opinion that the cycle of life should be parents raise children and when they become adults, they go out in the world and be adults, while their parents live their lives.

then as the parents age and can no longer take care of themselves, it is a child's responsibility to come back to the parent and take care of them in their old age. So those white people you mentioned, leaving their parents to to die alone in the hospital are wrong.

That's my philosophy

Anyways Tap In I'm not going to continue the conversation just do you and do what makes you happy I'm not going to say one culture is superior than the other.

by no means did I mean to insult your culture I respect your choices and your culture.

I am just giving my philosophy on the situation not specifically your situation
 
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Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.
 

Nassudan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Absolutely move out for the freedom, life experience, etc.

But if you're thinking longer term, stick around with the parents for a bit longer and save up your money.
 

iseta

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Jun 26, 2018
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You don't seem bothered by it, you could save up money while you look for another job and then move. It's fine.
I live with my parents because I still haven't graduated and I help financially too, it seems right because I earn more than my mom and our quality of life improved overall because of this.
 

hombremalo

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Oct 26, 2017
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To get laid, people don't want to fuck in the car forever or go back to your parents home to do it, passing an age is ridiculous.
 

LosDaddie

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I mean, living with your parents is NEVER going to help your chances of getting laid, but chances are that millennial women your age are probably living at home too.

But since the OP is living the Baller Lyfestyle with a high-paying job & no debt, getting a hotel room for a night/weekend to smash should be no problem, right?

Just make sure that you're actually SAVING money while living at home. Not blowing it on video games, eating out all the time, buying bullshit toys, etc.
 

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I reached the same job status around 24 years old after finishing my professional studies and stayed with my mom 2 years to build a decent enough cash to buy a condo and helped her pay the bills at the same time. Everyone was happy like that.
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
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... I'm like 28 and wondering about the same thing.

I'd like to preface it with a little bit of my profile as well

First rented a flat as a student in 2011 with a roommate until 2016, I went back at parent's house occasionnaly on the week-end.
Moved to a much bigger flat in 2016 with same roommate.
2017 I moved for a year abroad for let's say, life experience, had a roommate occasionnaly but lived alone for the most part
I came back this summer in my home country back to parent's house, began new fairly high income job this month and I intend to financially help my family at some level (maybe not directly through cash but other means)

Now for more personnal matters I'm in very very good terms with all members of my family living at home, I spend a fair amount of time with each of them (including hours weekly on a bike with my father which is his hobby, hours doing groceries watching movies/tv with my mother, watching stuff,cooking and running a bit with my younger sibling) talk to them a lot about pretty much anything, there's also a lot of tension between my parents and I try as much as I can to help them improve their relationship. I'm very well aware my presence help them to have something in common, discuss about and so on.
I also am a kind of fatherly figure and role model to my younger sibling (s/he pretty much straightforwardly wrote that in a essay at school when s/he was 13y old) and we have a strong relationship where I try to help him/her get on with life and smoothens as much as I can his/her relationship with my parents (there used to be a lot of tension between him/her and my father and I acted as a cushion as much as I could)

By all means everyone involved seems pretty happy that I'm there.

Bu then come the social pressure, so I'll use a post above to reply somehow



Freedom
Life experience
Dating
Privacy
Social life
Relief for your parents
Post-shower naked strolls through the living room while you skull a lager on a hot summer day

- Freedom : I'm not sure what it has to do with anything, how do you define freedom in the first place? Why is that that living alone means freedom more than with others people? I don't feel like constrained in freedom in any way in my current situation, I'm doing what I want, coming back and leaving when I want, going where I want and so on
- Life experience : I do agree on that one, however that doesn't mean living by yourself should be the aim for everyone in the end, what's "expected" of us is to have our own family later on anyway. If anything living by yourself is a waste of money (both for you and for others because that contributes to higher house/rent prices) if there are no advantages in terms of commute or things to do next to your home
- Dating : that's the biggest valid point
- Privacy : Like freedom I see no problem on that front either
- Social life : Talking about a personal case here but most of my friends are in the big city while l'm living/working in the suburbs 1h commute from their home, so yeah they won't come to my house often (they already did though), even if I rent my own place that still wouldn't be convenient and the size of the flat wouldn't be worth it on top of it (don't think I could afford much more than 30-40m²). Outside of that I'm hanging out just fine and living with my parents has no impacts whatsoever on that
- Relief for your parents : It's actually quite the opposite and I've talked to them about that multiple times to be sure
- Post shower naked strolls : I'm actually... doing that almost, just a towel to hide the weenie and that's it, my father does it too and we are pretty cool with that. Overall I'm alright with my naked body in many circumstances lol (I'm an onsen lover)

Maybe I'm missing things here and there so anyone can feel free to explain them to me, but imo it has more to do with your relationship with your family and how you live as an individual overall,.
I'm not some lazy ass that comes back at home put his ass on a chair waiting for dinner, go sit my ass in front of a computer, ignore my parents, ask them for money, get yelled at for being noisy at night when I come back drunk (which can happen) and so on, we are in a mutual relationship of trust and help and I'm very happy for that, it is much better than the classic relationship that I heard from friends often which is just a "oh yeah they exist" about their parents.

If anything I'm here to contribute to improvement in the house, lately I've also reminded my parents how before they used to say that they would go back to the area where they grew up (hundreds of km from where we are) and I like them entertaining the idea of doing that after my father finish his 42y of hard work, and I'm pretty adamant that I shouldn't be in any way a factor that prevents them from doing what they want (which, ironically, I am because of our good relationship to begin with)

But yeah I feel like in our, western, societies there are some huge pillars that are hard to move and it's just unthinkable to do without them and of course it happens I that I'm checking the boxes for most (casual alcohool drinking, be in a relationship/date, live by yourself, eat meat) :p
 
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Servbot24

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd live at my parents if I could if it meant saving hundreds of dollars every month. I moved out 10 years ago though, so no way I would just all of a sudden ask them to move back in when I don't really need to.
 

FeliciaFelix

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Oct 27, 2017
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In my area there is a shift where there are alot of lower class white people paying rent, and there are a ton of landlords who own multiple house and they are asian. It all makes sense now.

This poster gets it. Im 80% sure that the white tradition of kicking out 18 year olds is a Koch plot to keep Americans poor.
 
OP
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Oct 25, 2017
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If you can get away with it, stay.

PROVIDED YOU ARE SOCKING AWAY LARGE AMOUNTS OF CASH IN A SP 500 INDEX FUND INSTEAD OF RENT.

I cant stress the above enough. Otherwise, all that saved rent wont amount to a hill of beans.

When you get older you will realize bills are a relentless thing that you cant escape, and rent is the biggest and most cruel of these. If there's anyway to avoid rent and put it in the market long term, I'd look long and hard at it.

Here's the smartest thing I ever read about investing: If you invest 150 a week at the S&P avg return of 9% a year, you'll have a million in 31 years. If you DOUBLE it to 300 a week, you'll have a mil in...29 years. Barely much difference.

The point is investing is more about time than amount, so START EARLY. If you can sock away a lot when you're 18 even, you'll be so far ahead of the game.

Also about age, as humans live longer "delayed adolescence" is a thing. I know 40+ year old dudes that literally dress and act like they're 20, and chase girls that age too. So I'm trying to say it'll probably be more acceptable to live at home longer.

Oh this I've definitely been doing. Might have read the same advice back in the day haha. Should hit that mil by 50.
 

Wilsongt

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you can live at home and the parents and you are okay with it, I'd say go for it.

Invest that extra money, put it into savings, etc.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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This poster gets it. Im 80% sure that the white tradition of kicking out 18 year olds is a Koch plot to keep Americans poor.

Problem is alot of racism happens due to this. Where people say these Asian purple coming to our country and taking our jobs and money. But in reality they just made smarter choices and end up more financially stable due to it.

I have a few negihbours who are asian, and they have upwards to 10 houses they are making money in rent. And they won't enjoy the money alone the children will enjoy the money, the grand children will enjoy the money. While the folks who move out early end up with much less. This creates a disparity between rich and the poor and it will only get worse with how the housing market is going. If anyone is curious I'm from the UK. And when I say I'm Asian I'm not Chinese etc, I'm India/Pakistan region. Many people think these folks are probably broke driving their taxis or working at a corner shop. But actually the reality is they are filthy rich. Obviously I'm not saying majority are but when it comes to my work colleagues and friends I've noticed a lot of Asians as more financially stable.
 

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OP is almost 30. I don't think it's common in the US to be with your parents that late in most cultures (Hispanic here, so I know how it can be) at that age unless you're already married. People OP's age are looking into buying houses, getting married, etc. He's not 23.

OP I'd move out after you get some nice savings. You will regret "caring" about dating or stuff like that.
 

mhayes86

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Oct 27, 2017
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I graduated college and received a good paying job offer when I was 27. If the offer didn't require me to move out of state, I would have stayed at my parent's house in order to save up money and work on paying off my student loans. At least for a little while.

In any case, have you looked into the Mid-Atlantic such as Maryland, Northern Virginia, and DC? IT is pretty big in this area, and prices/traffic can be high, but it's not as bad as the west coast. You also wouldn't be on the other side of the country away from your family.
 

Baji Boxer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lived away and back at my parent's place on and off over the years... but my current job is a 20min drive away, so I moved back again. Due to staying at the parents place often, I've gotten all my school/car loans finished, and my parents enjoy having me around to help out and I have a 88 year old grandma to help with here too. I still pay monthly 'rent' so i'm not really freeloading either.

But current job is falling apart in the upper management levels, so i've been looking for new opportunities again and that choice comes up again. There are plenty of well paying IT jobs here in atlanta, but the industries typically are 'boring'. I could go to the west coast where stuff is more exciting, but I still hear horror stories about living costs.

Or should I keep working in atlanta area... but get my own place? That I'm having a hard time to justify right now haha. Maybe I should get a house for the tax deductions? I should start researching into this. Just moved up a tax bracket, and being a single dude with no property, the taxes are sizeable. I have friends that argue for and against house ownership though.
Freedom is good. Could always do both though. Have your own place, and stay with your parents sometimes to help them and your grandma.
 

Phoenixazure

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Oct 27, 2017
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Im currently living with my parents. I basically remodeled the basement into a mini apartment with bathroom and it's a nice enough setup while paying for utilities for both floors so they can focus on their mortgage. I don't have a high paying job and have debt to pay off but I am planning to finally move out once I have enough money saved and payed off my debts. I moved out when I lived abroad for a year and again for a year but living solo was surprisingly really depressing and demoralizing.
 

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I was in the same position as you, OP (Asian parents). Moving out was one of the best things I ever did. The freedom is actually liberating.