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Please point me to all those animated scenes we've seen of this new show.

LWA doesn't take anything from "Western Cartoons", it's completely in Trigger's style and hasn't changed at all from what they've done in Kill La Kill. Stop making things up
Alone the episode in Sucy's head was full of anecdotes from western media.
And sure it looks and plays like a Trigger production (with the typical problems of their writing) but Trigger has always been full of influences of western media.
Plus the whole concept of the show plus several scenes in the beginning of the show were straight up based from Harry Potter.

Was LWA a good show? Yeah it was entertaining but suffered from the same fate as nearly every other Trigger production
 

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I can understand not thinking the show looks appealing, but jeez, the amount of hatred some people are showing makes me think there's more to it than that.
 

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Doesn't look "anime enough" for being something with the Crunchyroll name on it, but maybe they want their original shows to be distinctly western in art style. I'm getting Powerpuff Girls vibes from the looks of it. If a bunch of western animators want to do their take on a shonen action type show I'd be down. I could be wrong but I don't think there are enough western cartoons that are straight up action shows, which is the kind of anime I love.


oh god don't remind me!
 

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Conceptually Ellation Studios sounds like a cool endevour, and they are looking to make a variety of genres for Crunchyroll, so I think it's nice to see a western animation studio doing something beyond comedy for a change.

As far as this looking like LWA, who cares? I mean there's decades of magical girl shows that current stuff is pulling from LWA included.
 
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Don't know why one would get mad at a cartoon.
Imagine it probably would've been better suited for VRV (same company i think?) but just don't watch it
 
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"I'm not alone in hating this show without reason and sense! There are dozens of us!"

Have you shared your opinions on the new She-Ra show on this forum?



Please point me to all those animated scenes we've seen of this new show.

LWA doesn't take anything from "Western Cartoons", it's completely in Trigger's style and hasn't changed at all from what they've done in Kill La Kill. Hell, it's very much still even in the playbook of their old Gainax stuff. Stop making things up.
Dude, why are lying? They had an entire retro segment with Akko.
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Dianas friends are named Hannah and Barbara.
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There are CONSTANT nods to other cartoons, and to top it all off, Yoh Yoshinari is a HUGE westaboo (along with most of TRIGGERS staff), like what are you talking about?
 
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Saying the art style looks like what's frequently posted on Tumblr isn't saying the show can't be good, or even that the art itself is bad. It's just an observation.
 

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Sure, but OK KO does take a lot from Dragon Ball. Lets get away from the LWA comparisons, since thats not really my big issue with the trailer. They could have squashed my doubts about the shows bland premise by talking about the show, but they just spent the entire trailer patting themselves on the back for being ultra diverse and all women.

Yall were just talking about Cannon Busters a couple of post ago. LeSean did a great job of highlighting the staff, because they are really fucking noteworthy.
Yeah fair enough, they didn't do a good job selling the show. Hard to be mad about, they still have time and they're not dependent on selling subs through this. I've already said that I don't think Crunchyroll is where this should be sold but I guess ATTWarner doesn't really have anywhere else.

Saying the art style looks like what's frequently posted on Tumblr isn't saying the show can't be good, or even that the art itself is bad. It's just an observation.
I mean yeah if you have zero grasp of context, sure.
 

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I wouldn't mind so much if there wasn't a show with similar artsyle and premise coming soon: The Owl House

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Is "Tumblr" the Era safe version of "SJW"?

All that and more! It's a pretty obvious and thinly veiled reference to the fact that the bubbly art style dared to become popular first with diverse crowds on various social media sites (hardly just Tumblr, but, you know, THOSE DAMN LEFTIST KIDS AND THEIR WACKY HAIR LOL)

God forbid a popular approach among aspiring and amateur artists start to blow up after a show like Steven Universe goes on to be a massive hit.
 
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Yeah fair enough, they didn't do a good job selling the show. Hard to be mad about, they still have time and they're not dependent on selling subs through this. I've already said that I don't think Crunchyroll is where this should be sold but I guess ATTWarner doesn't really have anywhere else.
Mind you, Im not angry, just disappointed that they went in such a typical direction. If this is the first series, the one to sell us on the whole Crunchyroll Originals line, and this is our first introduction to it?
 

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Kate Leth has worked on some cute stuff, this looks also cute. I hope they enjoy some success. Lot of posts one step away from calling people "tumblrinas" already, yuck.
 
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All that and more! It's a pretty obvious and thinly veiled reference to the fact that the bubbly art style dared to become popular first with diverse crowds on various social media sites (hardly just Tumblr, but, you know, THOSE DAMN LEFTIST KIDS AND THEIR WACKY HAIR LOL)

God forbid a popular approach among aspiring and amateur artists start to blow up after a show like Steven Universe goes on to be a massive hit.
What does that got to do with show looking like trash?
 

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The problem with this announcement is, that they showed nothing.
Yeah it's great that they are able and allowed to do what they are doing, but the show still has to be good.
And the best way to shut up those idiots that would 100% get mad with what was said during that video, would be some stellar scenes from the show, because the artstyle alone is nothing worth mentioning based on what was shown
 

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Oh yea, this is the show people were throwing a shit fit about on Twitter and discord.

It looks cute, not sure what's so egregious about it.
 

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Alone the episode in Sucy's head was full of anecdotes from western media.
And sure it looks and plays like a Trigger production (with the typical problems of their writing) but Trigger has always been full of influences of western media.
Plus the whole concept of the show plus several scenes in the beginning of the show were straight up based from Harry Potter.

Was LWA a good show? Yeah it was entertaining but suffered from the same fate as nearly every other Trigger production

"Western references" doesn't make "Anime meets cartoons" - Anime have had western references pretty much since inception.
 

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Is "Tumblr" the Era safe version of "SJW"?
I use it to mean a generic-looking anime meets western cartoons style that I've found is very popular on tumblr. Often with rendering techniques that all look like they have watched and replicated the same art tutorials. Basically fairly uninspired, intermediate art made by people still trying to find a style of their own.

I don't use it as a "this is bad because it looks like something I would see on tumblr", I just mean "this looks like something I would see on tumblr". There are a lot of amazing artists on tumblr, but there are much more average and bad artists who are learning and posting than great ones.

I'll refrain from making the comparison from here on though, since it's apparently a 4chan/alt-right talking point(?)
 

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I'm sure my little sister will enjoy this, I'm not the target audience and that's OK, there's plenty of other shows to watch for me
 

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Dude, why are lying? They had an entire retro segment with Akko.

Dianas friends are named Hannah and Barbara.
There are CONSTANT nods to other cartoons, and to top it all off, Yoh Yoshinari is a HUGE westaboo (along with most of TRIGGERS staff), like what are you talking about?


Lying? More like you don't know what the shit you're talking about. Pop culture references don't make a show "East meets west", and that wasn't at all what you were arguing either. Stop moving goalposts to smokescreen your "lel Tumbler" bullshit.

Newsflash: Anime as a whole were based on Western animation. Early Anime look exactly like Disney Cartoons.
 
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I wouldn't mind so much if there wasn't a show with similar artsyle and premise coming soon: The Owl House

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This is part of what I dont like about a lot of these new anime inspired shows. They are taking the most superficial aspects of anime (character design with Not-Cubone and Not-Ryoko, and general artstyle) and not doing anything else to meld east and west style.
 
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I feel like the trailer where you show off, thank the staff and are proud of their hard work should come after the trailer where you show off and advertise the content of the show. We just have a few screens. The artsyle looks okay, but I feel like it should have a softer feel with the line work and coloring like Steven Universe. But we really don't know anything about the show, it's humor and pacing and feel.
 

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All that and more! It's a pretty obvious and thinly veiled reference to the fact that the bubbly art style dared to become popular first with diverse crowds on various social media sites (hardly just Tumblr, but, you know, THOSE DAMN LEFTIST KIDS AND THEIR WACKY HAIR LOL)

God forbid a popular approach among aspiring and amateur artists start to blow up after a show like Steven Universe goes on to be a massive hit.

Yeah but lots of those shows are made by people who went to the same art schools and worked in similar projects, it makes it look like a clique.

I just wish that they gave some opportunities to lets say, Gobelins alumni
 

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"Western references" doesn't make "Anime metts cartoons" - Anime have had western references pretty much since inception.
Then take a look at this post https://www.resetera.com/posts/11799681/
There were cameos of known western characters, they had different style known from cartoons and shit and the whole premise is based on Harry Potter.
And it's still usual for Trigger to do this. I mean just watch Panty & Stocking
 

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I use it to mean a generic-looking anime meets western cartoons style that I've found is very popular on tumblr. Often with rendering techniques that all look like they have watched and replicated the same art tutorials. Basically fairly uninspired, intermediate art made by people still trying to find a style of their own.

I don't use it as a "this is bad because it looks like something I would see on tumblr", I just mean "this looks like something I would see on tumblr". There are a lot of amazing artists on tumblr, but there is much more average and bad artists who are learning and posting than great ones.

I'll refrain from making the comparison from here on though, since it's apparently a 4chan/alt-right talking point(?)

I'm still a bit confused. Is it uninspired when people master anime stylings? Or classical cartooning? Or is it simply uninspired in that it's western and adopting anime style markers?
 
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All that and more! It's a pretty obvious and thinly veiled reference to the fact that the bubbly art style dared to become popular first with diverse crowds on various social media sites (hardly just Tumblr, but, you know, THOSE DAMN LEFTIST KIDS AND THEIR WACKY HAIR LOL)

God forbid a popular approach among aspiring and amateur artists start to blow up after a show like Steven Universe goes on to be a massive hit.
I mean... I'm the person who first mentioned Tumblr in this thread and I'm what the kind of person you seem to be assuming I am would label an "SJW." There's several definite artstyles that are commonly known from Tumblr, and this really reminds of one of them. No "dog whistle" is intended.

I obviously can only speak for myself but I don't think everyone that mentions Tumblr in regards to High Guardian Spice is some kind of diversity-hating bigot.
 

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Then take a look at this post https://www.resetera.com/posts/11799681/
There were cameos of known western characters, they had different style known from cartoons and shit and the whole premise is based on Harry Potter.
And it's still usual for Trigger to do this. I mean just watch Panty & Stocking

Already adressed it. It's bullshit. Western references don't make it "Anime meets Cartoons". Neither LWA, nor other Trigger shows have more western references than other Anime. Except maybe Inferno Cop, but that's not being mentioned.
 
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I dont think you know what you are talking about. Yoh Yoshinari is a BIG fan of western cartoons and animation. He takes that into account when working on shows. But then again, I actually follow and research the creators I care about, what about you?


Bottom line: LWA is inspired by western cartoons and prior Trigger shows and High Spice Guardian dosent look good.
 
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I mean... I'm the person who first mentioned Tumblr in this thread and I'm what the kind of person you seem to be assuming I am would label an "SJW." There's several definite artstyles that are commonly known from Tumblr, and this really reminds of one of them. No "dog whistle" is intended.

I obviously can only speak for myself but I don't think everyone that mentions Tumblr in regards to High Guardian Spice is some kind of diversity-hating bigot.
I mean, whether or not you intend it that way, you can't really deny that Tumblr as an adjective is most frequently a pejorative term used to describe superficial characteristics (the "Tumblr" crowd being whiny young SJWs with colorful hair and silly obsessions who get so easily triggered)

You should probably not feed that particular dragon, even if unintentionally
 

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Already adressed it. It's bullshit. Western references don't make it "Anime meets Cartoons".
I was only anwering to your post with "LWA doesn't take anything from 'Western Cartoons'" and that there are a lot of homages, cameos and what not of western media in LWA.
Is it Anime meets Cartoon? Fuck no, but I never said that
 

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I dont think you know what you are talking about. Yoh Yoshinari is a BIG fan of western cartoons and animation. He takes that into account when working on shows. But then again, I actually follow and research the creators I care about, whgat about you?


Bottom line: LWA is inspired by western cartoons and prior Trigger shows and High Spice Guardian dosent look good.

Why are you getting so defensive and passive aggressive over cartoons.
 

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I dont think you know what you are talking about. Yoh Yoshinari is a BIG fan of western cartoons and animation. He takes that into account when working on shows. But then again, I actually follow and research the creators I care about, whgat about you?


Bottom line: LWA is inspired by western cartoons and prior Trigger shows and High Spice Guardian dosent look good.


I've forgotten about more anime in my life, than you've even watched. I very much know what I'm talking about.

You obviously don't, though, you're so busy smokescreening your original statements about how shit and Tumblr this show is that you've moved Goalposts into completely different territory.

But I'll give you another chance: What does this show have to do with Little Witch Academia and the supposed "east meets west theme"?

I was only anwering to your post with "LWA doesn't take anything from 'Western Cartoons'" and that there are a lot of homages, cameos and what not of western media in LWA.
Is it Anime meets Cartoon? Fuck no, but I never said that

References aren't "Taking anything", nor do those references make LWA "Inspired by western cartoons" (which is bullshit). Western references are there, but as I said those already were there since Anime even began to be a thing.
 

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What a waste of money, lol. Like people who sub to crunchyroll will like this cartoon. In fact, I'm sure the forum is on fire right now.
 
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I've forgotten about more anime in my life, than you've even watched. I very much know what I'm talking about.

You obviously don't, though, you're so busy smokescreening your original statements about how shit and Tumblr this show is that you've moved Goalposts into completely different territory.




References aren't "Taking anything", nor do those references make LWA "Inspired by western cartoons" (which is bullshit). Western references are there, but as I said those already were there since Anime even began to be a thing.
Im dealing with the stupid points you made earlier in the thread. If LWA isnt inspired by western cartoons, then I guess Steven Universe isnt inspired by anime then?
Fuck the Tumblr comment, bottomline the show looks like ass.
 

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After Thundercats and She-Ra, I don't get the point of being pissed about cartoon shows anymore. Its exhausting. They're made for kids, made by adults who are having fun doing what they love. It's got a bubbly artstyle, so what? No need to crucify it out the gate.
 
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