Can't you just explain what I'm assuming that's wrong? If I'm doing that then I'm happy to clarify or take it back but I really can't see what incorrect assumptions I'm making.
Okay.Can't you just explain what I'm assuming that's wrong? If I'm doing that then I'm happy to clarify or take it back but I really can't see what incorrect assumptions I'm making.
The way you have this written out sounds like you think someone just says out of the blue 'Are you a gamer?' and all they want is a yes or no answer and then they move onto the next question. This is happening during a conversation and this was not what initiated any of these discussions.But then all you're doing is turning a simple yes/no question into a much more long winded yes/no question. When someone asks "are you a gamer" or something similar, all they're asking is "do you play video games".
Eventually you're going to tell them that you do play video games, so I guess I still don't see the point of preceding the answer with a long winded explination about how their definition of the word gamer (the one used by most people to simply mean someone who plays video game) is different from the one you and a relatively small subset of people use.
You do you but I don't get it. It's a simple question and there's no accusations or connotations other than the ones you impose on it.
Again I think there's a bunch of reasons to not want to call yourself a gamer, but this one I just don't get.
I would say that the best way to achieve this is by treating the word "gamer" like "listener", or "viewer". No need to negatively load the word and put off those who would otherwise enjoy the positive things about gaming culture.No, because I see it as an inherently exclusionary term in all practical connotations, and I want to see the act of playing video games become as ubiquitous as possible, with people from all walks of life considering video games as acceptable and mundane an activity as watching tv, listening to music, or watching a movie.
I'd call them gamers. I mean, not as an identity thing - but they should be included in the demographic.The thing about people claiming "Being a gamer just means playing video games" is that it ignores the statistics of people who actually play games and what the term gamer means and how it is used. A little over half of people who play games are female and older, thanks to the rise of mobile gaming, but the term gamer has an entirely different connotation. Certain people play a ton of games, but if they aren't a part of certain core genres or they aren't tied in to some part of the larger gaming zeitgeist that term isn't seen as applicable. My mom plays lots of mobile games regularly, my girlfriend specifically loves Animal Crossing, but you'll find next to no one who would hear that and call either of them a gamer, and they certainly wouldn't call themselves gamers either.
I would only say someone isn't a reader if they are illiterate.Yep. I think if your main hobby is gaming your a gamer. If your main hobby is reading your a reader. Hunting...hunter. Etc.
It'd just be gamer. Im a nurse who's s guy but people don't say hey "male nurse"!No. Don't need men being all like "GAMER GUUUUUUURL" at me. You guys can keep that label to yourself.
Yeah, you don't get it.It'd just be gamer. Im a nurse who's s guy but people don't say hey "male nurse"!
Maybe you could get the fuck over it, you pop in a thread acting all precious like your voice is the only one that matters. What a shit bag thing to do.
Just wow, whoever gets offended by being called a gamer when they spend alot of time playing games need to get over themselves. However If its said in a way thats supposed to be insulting its rather different.Some of y'all need to stop being so fucking precious about video games
"Bu bu bu- you play games like me! and I'm a gamer! so you're a gamer too!"
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy. Also, fuck off with the "We're all humans, don't you identify as human???" lazy ass strawman. Shit's getting more than a little pathetic 19 pages in.
More importantly, do you identify yourself as a human? Cause most humans are quite shit in my experience...
No. Don't need men being all like "GAMER GUUUUUUURL" at me. You guys can keep that label to yourself.
Some of y'all need to stop being so fucking precious about video games
"Bu bu bu- you play games like me! and I'm a gamer! so you're a gamer too!"
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy. Also, fuck off with the "We're all humans, don't you identify as human???" lazy ass strawman. Shit's getting more than a little pathetic 19 pages in.
Thank you for proving my point. Some of y'all really can't handle that people don't want to be associated with your shitty ass fandomMaybe you could get the fuck over it, you pop in a thread acting all precious like your voice is the only one that matters. What a shit bag thing to do.
I spend surprisingly little time playing games, mostly due in part to how fucking shitty the 'community' at large is.Just wow, whoever gets offended by being called a gamer when they spend alot of time playing games need to get over themselves. However If its said in a way thats supposed to be insulting its rather different.
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy.
Also, fuck off with the "We're all humans, don't you identify as human???" lazy ass strawman. Shit's getting more than a little pathetic 19 pages in.
My point is you're being dense as fuck, it's a harmless word that most "regular" people associate with nerd or geek... not incel, racist and bigot. For some reason you and others are trying to connect the two and it just doesn't check out with the majority of rational people.Thank you for proving my point. Some of y'all really can't handle that people don't want to be associated with your shitty ass fandom
Some of y'all need to stop being so fucking precious about video games
"Bu bu bu- you play games like me! and I'm a gamer! so you're a gamer too!"
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy. Also, fuck off with the "We're all humans, don't you identify as human???" lazy ass strawman. Shit's getting more than a little pathetic 19 pages in.
If you play games you are technically a gamer. I don't call myself one and don't address others by it but by definition it's the case. To argue otherwise is illogical.
I rarely see people get so pissed about dictionary definitionsSome of y'all need to stop being so fucking precious about video games
"Bu bu bu- you play games like me! and I'm a gamer! so you're a gamer too!"
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy. Also, fuck off with the "We're all humans, don't you identify as human???" lazy ass strawman. Shit's getting more than a little pathetic 19 pages in.
Some of y'all need to stop being so fucking precious about video games
"Bu bu bu- you play games like me! and I'm a gamer! so you're a gamer too!"
Not, get the fuck over it. Also, stop being such colossal shit bags to anyone that isn't a straight white guy.
Then perhaps the term isnt applicable for you, I stopped playing online games mostly myself because I find many competetive communitys toxic.Thank you for proving my point. Some of y'all really can't handle that people don't want to be associated with your shitty ass fandom
I spend surprisingly little time playing games, mostly due in part to how fucking shitty the 'community' at large is.
Technically correct but lacking nuance.My point is you're being dense as fuck, it's a harmless word that most "regular" people associate with nerd or geek... not incel, racist and bigot. For some reason you and others are trying to connect the two and it just doesn't check out with the majority of rational people.
If you play games you are technically a gamer. I don't call myself one and don't address others by it but by definition it's the case. To argue otherwise is illogical.
"Im not a gamer! Im not a gamer!!", I continue to insist as I spend every waking hour on a gaming forum.
Not wanting to be lumped in with a scene that propped up and still feeds gamergate makes me a racist now. Good job gamer bro, you sure showed me.It's sad how so many people can't separate assholes who identify as gamers and gamers.
Yes I identify myself as a gamer, but no I don't go around telling people for that above reason.
I'm just a person who's main escape is gaming and has always been, that's pretty much it.
You sound like you are what you hate. That naive generalisation too.... fucking hell you actually believe so firmly that anyone who's a gamer must be something that fits your warped idea of one.
Chill out, racist.
He passively shit on whites, straights and males all in one sentence.Please tell me I'm just reading this post wrong and you're not calling someone a racist cause they don't like the term gamer.
Technically correct but lacking nuance.
If 'gamer' encompasses everyone from someone playing Flappy Bird for two minutes a week on their phone to someone who logs xx hours a week on dedicated hardware and spends a large chunk of their disposable income on it, it's pointless as a descriptive when it's clearly used to describe one of those types of behaviour more often than the other or both together.
I go to the cinema once every six months, 'cinephile' is generally used to describe those whose media use and level of knowledge goes above passing interest. Same for 'bookworm', it's not used to describe someone who only reads the latest airport thriller on the beach once a year.
I'm all of those things, and never once have I ever started screaming racist or sexist obscenities during a video game, but I've had it screamed at me. So please, save your concern trolling for someone who gives a shit.He passively shit on whites, straights and males all in one sentence.
You replied and tried to save face, clearly showing you give a shit.I'm all of those things, and never once have I ever started screaming racist or sexist obscenities during a video games, but I've had it screamed at me. So please, save your concern trolling for someone who gives a shit.
He passively shit on whites, straights and males all in one sentence.
You keep going, obviously I'm going to reply back.You replied and tried to save face, clearly showing you give a shit.
Take the battlefield 5 reveal, jfc the shitstorm that brewed over having women in the game. So fucking embarrassing.They aren't though? A straight white male is pretty much the default gamer identity and calling that out isn't racist, especially when minorities get shit on by said identity endlessly for just trying to exist in the same space all because the share the same games.
There's a reason having a LGBT/POC character is seen as "controversial" in this industry.
It's really not. Almost all the games I grew up playing were made by brown people in Japan. People play games all around the world.They aren't though? A straight white male is pretty much the default gamer identity
hey gamer label defenders, maybe call out this dog whistle? just a thought.He passively shit on whites, straights and males all in one sentence.
I'm all of those things, and never once have I ever started screaming racist or sexist obscenities during a video game, but I've had it screamed at me. So please, save your concern trolling for someone who gives a shit.
It's not all 'gamers' but it's enough of 'em that I don't want to be associated with the community. If you don't like it, or can't handle that opinion, then tough shit. Call yourselves whatever you want.