Outside of health issues, just business wise. I'm really worried about movie theatres after the pandemic. You can't capture that magic elsewhere.
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This clip from a screening of Avengers Endgame makes me realize just how badly The Rise of Skywalker dropped the ball.
- Thread starter Meg Cherry
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That moment was pure bliss
Everything was fantastic and the crowd reactions only enhanced such a great scene
Honestly even watching it at home alone, it somehow doesn't have the same weight as it did opening night
Everything was fantastic and the crowd reactions only enhanced such a great scene
Honestly even watching it at home alone, it somehow doesn't have the same weight as it did opening night
Probably the most hype scene since the circle shot in the 1st Avengers film. I'm usually one for quiet, but that moment was clearly designed to elicit that sort of reaction from the audience. Hype as fuck
My favorite hype moment is still Lord of the Rings: Return of the King - The Ride of Rohan:
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I don't think anything will ever top this.
Lord Of The Rings Death ! Death !!! Army of Rohan vs orcs
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I don't think anything will ever top this.
Gonna call bullshit on that when all the creatives and advertisement touted Rise of Skywalker as the end of the 40 year Skywalker saga.
Hahah I recall hearing a handful of "what the fuck was that?"
That whole movie in general - first time I heard so many people talking shit right after credits rolled. I still regret buying the ticket instead of a pizza.
I'm glad TROS was bad enough to be interesting. If it was merely boring it wouldn't be as much fun to hate.
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This is fake, but the reaction to that moment was basically the same in reality.
Damn I almost forgot the Trinity escape scene. The movie goes from 0 to 100 almost immediately with the first "bullet-time" camera rotation, the roof jumps, and then the staircase roll. Everyone in the audience was reacting like the cops in that scene.
I'm trying to remember my first reaction to the lobby gunfight, but I think it's a scene where I was more blown away by the ultraviolence than the choreography on first viewing. Watched that and the Neo vs Morpheus fight over and over again in slow motion when the DVD came out.
Yep, have effectively stopped going to theaters, but I'd be wrong to say the communal aspect of theaters can not add to a film.
Yeah I agree with that lol.
I could imagine a hype af scene with all the force ghost Jedi taking shots at Palpatine one last time ending with Ben and Rey killing him off.
Somewhere in a different timeline and universe, there's a movie out there that's like that. Sucks that it wasn't ours haha.
It just seemed like it used a similar Marvel template that they've been using in most of their bigger films, which aims for a certain ratio of laughs and spectacle. Not claiming all of their films "are the same" like some do, but they do have a formula that they love to use quite a bit.
Anyone who says the battle of winter fell was bad is silly in my eyes. These videos prove how awesome it was.
Fan Service doesn't simply mean referencing source material. It's fan service because it's something put in their specifically to please fans.
Unfortunately I think killing the Night King so quickly like that ultimately damaged the show badly.
The entire MCU was pretty much building up to that moment. SWs was never doing that, it wasn't until TROS marketing kicked off that suddenly this whole sequel trilogy was now about it tying up all 9 movies instead of being it's own thing set after ROTJ. Sheev came out of nowhere, it was such blatant last minute bullshit they didn't even bother trying to explain his resurrection in the movie cause they knew how dumb it was. It was never gonna hold a candle to Endgame even if they had brought in all the force ghosts.
One of the most exciting moments I've had at the movies. The best fan service I could have asked for. 10 years of seeing these movies in theaters culminating into my favorite moment in comic book movies.
Star Wars tried to do the same thing and oof. I enjoyed Rise, but it was nowhere near the movie going experience that IW or Endgame were.
Star Wars tried to do the same thing and oof. I enjoyed Rise, but it was nowhere near the movie going experience that IW or Endgame were.
Endgame was such a spectacular movie, there was so much investment tied up to until that moment and they didn't miss the mark. A lot of the big moments were being built up for years and years, it was earned. I get chills every time I see that scene OP.
The Marvel movies are always fun for the fanservice stuff because of the crowd, but Infinity War and Endgame were fucking off the charts. Legitimately the best and funnest opening night experiences I've ever had. Every little callback, every reunion, and moments like Captain Marvel taking the headbutt or Scarlet Witch getting some payback - the crowd was livid for that shit. Thanos coming back is only in this movie at all so we can have this amazing final battle, and it's even better than I hoped it would be years earlier.
But Rise of Skywalker was... dead. Just dead. They try to have this moment at the end when Lando and everyone shows up, but it felt so fucking hollow. I like the bit when Rey hands off the saber to Ben, but that is maybe the only thing that really pays off.
And it's not to say the other movies were like that. First sight of the Falcon, a cheer for Han/Leia appearing, and when Rey catches the lightsaber. Force Awakens had a really enthusiastic crowd. And for all the shitting on TLJ people try, the theater had fucking everyone gasp at Holdo's lightspeed jump, cheering when Rey and Kylo stand back to back, and lose their shit when the movie reveals Luke was a projection.
Rise of Skywalker was just so fucking flaccid.
But Rise of Skywalker was... dead. Just dead. They try to have this moment at the end when Lando and everyone shows up, but it felt so fucking hollow. I like the bit when Rey hands off the saber to Ben, but that is maybe the only thing that really pays off.
And it's not to say the other movies were like that. First sight of the Falcon, a cheer for Han/Leia appearing, and when Rey catches the lightsaber. Force Awakens had a really enthusiastic crowd. And for all the shitting on TLJ people try, the theater had fucking everyone gasp at Holdo's lightspeed jump, cheering when Rey and Kylo stand back to back, and lose their shit when the movie reveals Luke was a projection.
Rise of Skywalker was just so fucking flaccid.
I hated Endgame. A god damn slog of a movie with a trashy story and almost pure fanservice. Overly long and poorly paced. I loved Infinity War though. Should have ended with that one *edgy*
Star Wars got a similar (fanservice) moment with Rogue One though. Arguably the best Scene of any new Star Wars movie. That shit was intense. Basically me in the cinema at 3am in the morning:
Star Wars got a similar (fanservice) moment with Rogue One though. Arguably the best Scene of any new Star Wars movie. That shit was intense. Basically me in the cinema at 3am in the morning:
Shit was so dumb, what's worse is that people actually bought it
Remember when TROS had moments built exactly like those in Endgame expecting to get the same reaction...But instead got awkward silence?
Yeah, I don't think the main problem of the new Star Wars films was the lack of hype fan service moments.
Actually, one of the main problems with the films was that they were leaning WAY too heavily on the old trilogy in every possible way (characters, locations, ships and even plot points) as a desperate pursuit for fan approval.
Few people actually got that invested on the new characters and their stories. Of course, it doesn't help that many of the new characters either had very unsatisfying arcs (Finn) or just got randomly replaced by another character (Rose, Snoke, Hux).
Actually, one of the main problems with the films was that they were leaning WAY too heavily on the old trilogy in every possible way (characters, locations, ships and even plot points) as a desperate pursuit for fan approval.
Few people actually got that invested on the new characters and their stories. Of course, it doesn't help that many of the new characters either had very unsatisfying arcs (Finn) or just got randomly replaced by another character (Rose, Snoke, Hux).
The Rise of Skywalker really did feel like the end of Star Wars, just not in the way Disney intended.
Err, wouldn't the majority of the crowd who went to see the final film of a multi-movie story arc be considered "fans" of the characters or story by default? If so, it's just more crowd pleasing to me, and if that is actually fan service, then the majority of the Marvel film template is fan service. Which is fine, but I'm just trying to see the distinction here. I know what fan service is when it comes to adding bits specifically targeted at those "in the know" though that don't really have any significant impact on the story, but are there as bonus spectacle.
The "I am Iron Man" line was also the very last thing they shot for Endgame (they were contemplating what/if he should say in that moment)
Filmmaking's basically like cooking, even once you get the recipe down you're probably still gonna mess around with some spices and ingredients afterwards to get the best flavour.
It is a longer fight than the fight with Thanos. I actually see a lot of parallels. Had that been the last episode of GoT the show would be very differently remembered.
I can go a little further back than that. Independence Day: When Randy Quaid says "Hello boys! I'm back!" and flies his plane into the alien superweapon. Big audience reaction on that one.
I don't expect to have a theatrical experience like The Matrix again. That was something else entirely; such a fun and unique experience
The funny thing is Matrix completely blind sided people, like everyone went in there expecting maybe like an average run of the mill movie that suddenly turned into like what Star Wars was for 1977 out of thin air (in terms of "wow I've never seen anything like this before"), lol.
I remember my friend saying "I hope this doesn't suck like Johnny Mnemonic" (a previous Keanu Reeves sci-fi movie) walking into it, after the movie was over he looked like he had an out of body experience.
First time I saw it in '99, the crowd fucking lost it once she kicked that last cop in the hotel room. We had no idea what movie we were in for, but at that moment realized we were watching a classic.
I actually miss that more than mega hyped movie events ... the "holy shit this just came out of nowhere and you MUST see this".
Don't think that can happen anymore with everything being hyped/vetted before hand.
There are so many implausible things in that episode that are especially blatant upon a second viewing. Implausible in a world that has dragons, necromancy, Mission Impossible form-fitting masks, and shadow baby assassins.
The plot armor was also super hard as well.
I didn't hate Endgame upon my first viewing, but I did think it had really bad pacing, and liked the previous film infinitely more. After watching it at home though for the second time, knowing what to expect, I didn't find it nearly as big of a letdown, although that end battle still has too much cheese IMO, and was on par with the final battle of Ready Player One, which was kind of bad. Everyone arriving just in time to save the day was cliche, but I liked it about as much as any of the other cliche things in these films, but the actual large scale fight once it was engaged was just a chaotic mess.
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I remember during IW I was sitting next to my mom. We wanted to go see a spring movie and the family wasn't really sold on the new Jurassic world so we decided on IW. She was pretty into it. When Stark got stabbed my thanos she made a "oof" type of noise. When Thanos used the time stone to reverse Visions death most people in the audience went "awww" like it was for nothing. Thanos snapped his fingers you could hear gasps a bit and "oof". Endgame didn't really have that affect but yeah those 2 movies really moved people.
Endgame climax was fan good, but I think it's important to seperate that from good good. The climax in Infinity War was good good. Rise of Skywalker was bad bad
I don't know whether I'll ever see a moment like Cap picking up Mjolinir or all of the dusted Avengers coming out of the portals to Silvestri's triumphant score. I'm not a big fan of clapping in theatres, but you just had to. It was so perfectly done. Was it lampshaded? Yes. Was it fan service? Obviously. But it also made complete sense in Cap's arc.
Yup. If Star Wars wasn't the first big cultural popcorn movie then it would have never had another movie made past Episode 1
The most pathetic part is that there are moments in TROS that were so obviously DESIGNED to get these kinds of cheers and whoops, The Millenium Falcon coming back for the Final Battle, "And I am all the Jedi"
But they all fell flat because they were never earned. I saw TROS with my family on XMAS day, theater was full. Not a single cheer or clap for any of the big moments, thought someone behind me groaned when the Rey Palpatine revaluation came up.
But they all fell flat because they were never earned. I saw TROS with my family on XMAS day, theater was full. Not a single cheer or clap for any of the big moments, thought someone behind me groaned when the Rey Palpatine revaluation came up.