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Truly an amazing situation. Hard to see them opening up again before next fall, but it's all uncharted territory.
Looks like our governor here in Colorado is about to close the ski resorts since all but one of the positive Corona tests are coming from there. Can't believe people would still choose to gather at a cold climate resort filled with people from all over the world.
Well, yeah. But there are 2800 new living people that contracted the virus, not 3500, that's the increment in total cases.
President of Serbia has just activated state of emergency:
- great focus on voluntary home quarantine of elderly population, will become a law if people ignore it
- establishment of new support network for the elderly [package deliveries, health checkups, etc.]
- shutting down of daycare, schools, colleges, gyms...
- reduction of work hours for restaurants and bars
- no gatherings of over 50 people
- expansion of health protection for medical and goods distribution centers
- border quarantine for everyone [symptoms or not] entering the country - 14 days for Serbians and 28 days for foreigners
- for now, no full on city lockdowns or road travel restrictions
- businesses can continue working
- he's pissed that EU has stopped helping non-EU countries, places great hope in help from China
As of today, Serbia has 48 infected and 283 tested individuals [for now they test only those who show strong symptoms]. No deaths, but two of the infected are in critical condition.
- great focus on voluntary home quarantine of elderly population, will become a law if people ignore it
- establishment of new support network for the elderly [package deliveries, health checkups, etc.]
- shutting down of daycare, schools, colleges, gyms...
- reduction of work hours for restaurants and bars
- no gatherings of over 50 people
- expansion of health protection for medical and goods distribution centers
- border quarantine for everyone [symptoms or not] entering the country - 14 days for Serbians and 28 days for foreigners
- for now, no full on city lockdowns or road travel restrictions
- businesses can continue working
- he's pissed that EU has stopped helping non-EU countries, places great hope in help from China
As of today, Serbia has 48 infected and 283 tested individuals [for now they test only those who show strong symptoms]. No deaths, but two of the infected are in critical condition.
User Banned (1 week): ignoring the modpost in regards to posting unsubstantiated rumors
So this is a whole thread, but it is terrifying. Makes it looks like the real danger is that the virus attacks the heart after a few days, and there may be no stopping it if it goes that route. This kind of mirrors what we were hearing out of China.
Our hockey game is still on.. down to 5 skaters.. I'm a goalie. I have no idea what the other team is doing.
If it's a big company, they should implement a thermal check on entrance as well as placing hand sanitizers in multiple spots. Have the office been cleaned lately?
Try suggesting all that to your superior.
The older they are, the higher the risk. Underlying health conditions are an important factor too.
Death rates aren't known with any accuracy yet but your parents are far more at risk than your children.
Watching that press conference you can tell Trump hates this so much. Not because of the people that are going to die, because he doesn't give a shit about that. But because this is the first thing that has forced him to be a real president, and he doesn't want to deal with shit at all. This is real work. It's not having a rally, golfing at Mar-a-Lago, or signing an executive order to undo something Obama did. That's all he knows, or wants, to do.
Death rates aren't known to very good accuracy at the moment. But:
Global death rate seems to be somewhere in the vague ballpark of 1-3%. Vulnerability increases sharply with age: kids seem to barely be affected at all when they get infected, and the death rate seems to be somewhere around .2% for adults below forty. Above forty things shoot up very rapidly with age. See here.
There was a funeral I went to three weeks ago, in Ohio, for a 53 year old woman who died of heart failure after a prolonged "flu," despite testing negative for flu several times. I have suspicions now.
You're clearly live-posting/reacting to some press conference of some sort, but just so you know, it's very unclear which one in particular and what you're responding to, so... please try to be more specific in your posts ok? This isn't a "live reaction" thread.
This bagel shop I usually go to doesn't take cards because they obviously do tax avoidance. A place full of tourists every day, that handles hand-made food, that takes only cash. Dumbasses.
stop posting and freaking out about "information" from random unverified people on twitter. for fuck's sake
Kids are safe. So far there's been no fatality for anyone under the age of 10. They don't seem to get hit as hard either. But yeah as others have said, past the age 50, more vulnerability sets in, and if there are underlying conditions, that boost vulnerability.
Fucking hell. So many levels of stupidity in one little clip.
Keep in mind that these haven't been updated for a few weeks and the situation is changing constantly.
He was asked about it this morning and he said the Federal Govt must do anything and everything to slow and stop this and he would not be out or rule against a nation wide shut down. He was then asked if the administration was actually listening to their advice and he said so far they have gone with what they've told them.
Each country counts death differently. Germany isn't counting dead people "with corona" but "from corona" which is a distinction Italy can't do because of how our healtcare work , basically:
- regions adminster healthcare
- the central state is responsible for the contagion management, statistics, plans etc...
Meaning that whenever there is a deceased, the region pass the responsibility to the central state for determining if the case of death was effectively Corona. The central state is both overwhelmed and also want to interfere as little as possible with the local healthcare facilities, so they just classify everyone who died and was diagnosed with corona as a victim. Other countries with central healthcare management can make their own call on each victim to classify them as they wish.
Second, there's a matter of who they are testing. Italy mean age of cases is 70 years old. Germany is , iirc, around 50. This mean that the majority of Germany reported cases are low-risk, since there has been no victim under 30 in EU iirc, and mortality in people below 50 is very low. In truth, Italy cases are probably 10 times higher than Germany, with a large subset of population with mild flu symptom that never get tested.
Keep in mind that northern Italy healthcare is one of the best of the world, and that the virus is the same here, and in the rest of europe. There aren't large enough differences in europe to cause any significant deviation in the numbers. Deviations in the numbers are strictly due to how numbers are counted. Italy is severely underreporting/undertesting their cases for pratical/monetary reasons (we stopped wide testing a couple of weeks ago because it wasn't feasible, we still are doing a lot of tests), while other countries which are further behind in the contagion can still afford a wider testing routine.
The virus being more deadly on a side of the alp than the other is a ridicolous notion scientifically speaking.
Bergamo is also a much larger city. More places for the virus to spread and harder to contain.
Normally he would just shit talk whoever his opponent was and stir up his base, but this virus isn't a person he can drown out with insults.
we received a few emails today in VA about preparing for remote education. the Governor banning public gatherings over 100 today is probably a sign of things to come.
and yeah, I've been thinking it might be a wrap for the last 24 hours or so. it's impossible to predict at the moment though.
I'm not freaking out. I think of it as an interesting footnote in the last few weeks.
Sounds like good measures except closing schools and daycare.With the elderly at risk you can't even count on grandparents to step in as day-carers. So essentially everything from businesses to hospitals and transportation or energy to government offices will run out of staff, and the supply chain will be broken.
COVID-19 pandemic in Italy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Italy's has 24,747 cases, with 1,809 deaths. That's a 7% death rate? Isn't that much higher than expected?
Am I miscounting? 1,809/24,747? Does the elderly cases skew it or something?
friends of friends workings for officials bodies recieved info tonight.
University of Tasmania is moving to online delivery of their courses, with the intention of having a full-institution test on the 20th, starting a split model for working from home, rotating staff on/off campus in 2 week chunks, banning overseas travel and non-essential interstate travel on university business, and postponing graduation ceremonies due to the 500 people at an event ban.
I've been fascinated by South Korea's success in fighting the virus. It's so obvious that everyone wearing masks in public stops the spread of the virus without any drastic quarantines.
So why are we in the west still being fed lies that we don't need masks? I realize that right now they are in high demand and medical professionals need them first, but I think masks is the only way to stop future outbreaks until we have a vaccine. Why aren't governments doing everything to ramp up mask productions? It's so baffling to me. We can't live in this semi-shut down world. How long is this even sustainable? A month, two before it all collapses? It should be a law to wear a mask in public in all countries. Masks look ugly? Well, no one is stopping manufacturers from making cool looking masks that could be fashion symbols, just like any other piece of clothing (tshirts, caps, etc).
So why are we in the west still being fed lies that we don't need masks? I realize that right now they are in high demand and medical professionals need them first, but I think masks is the only way to stop future outbreaks until we have a vaccine. Why aren't governments doing everything to ramp up mask productions? It's so baffling to me. We can't live in this semi-shut down world. How long is this even sustainable? A month, two before it all collapses? It should be a law to wear a mask in public in all countries. Masks look ugly? Well, no one is stopping manufacturers from making cool looking masks that could be fashion symbols, just like any other piece of clothing (tshirts, caps, etc).
Fucking hell, true. In my facebook feed had to just ignore people because of shit like that and i'm talking about people that work in the health department, which makes it more ridiculous. It's just, i heard someone say in the corridor that her lungs are torn to pieces. A day after a doctor talks to a tv station: She is recovering well.
I mean....., the situation is bad as it is, it is not necessary to parrot everything you hear or read.
He explicitly begged the nation not to bring kids to grandparents.
IMO we probably have much more infected than what is officially stated, but at least people will maybe become serious about health in the following weeks.
In one week I spend at most an hour in the supermarket. Compare that to 40 hours at work, and at least 5 hours of entertainment time. Cutting out the 45 hours and keeping the 1 hour limits the chance of transferring something exponentially. imo.
but schools are massive vectors. a dammed if you do, dammed if you dont.
It took 6 months for them to develop a vaccine for Zika. Now that they've isolated the virus I hope that means we can find a vaccine quickly. That and warmer temps hopefully keep this thing at bay until folks can get vaccinated.
That, or they realize this thing isn't as deadly as it seemed and is indeed comparable to the flu.
I just want to know what we're dealing with. The uncertainty is starting to get to me.
That, or they realize this thing isn't as deadly as it seemed and is indeed comparable to the flu.
I just want to know what we're dealing with. The uncertainty is starting to get to me.
Just got the official confirmation that I can work from home until further notice. Honestly a load of anxiety off of the shoulders right now.
The uncertainty of all this is the worst part imo. Everything changes by the day.
The uncertainty of all this is the worst part imo. Everything changes by the day.
European countries have not taken this seriously enough. They're just now starting measures they should've done at least 1-2 weeks ago.
you're adding kindling to an (as of now, at least) completely unsubstantiated rumor with no source. until we hear an update on how the virus works from someone who knows and not some guy on twitter with ~2000 followers who "knows a guy" this is a fool's errand.
right, exactly. i'm not trying to downplay anything, but things are serious enough in reality without baseless speculation and panic. cross every bridge as we come to it
WHO Situation Report (Issue 55, 10a CET March 15)
Global:
153517 cases (+10982)
5735 deaths (+343)
China:
81048 cases (+27)
3204 deaths (+10)
Outside of China:
72469 cases (+10955)
2531 deaths (+333)
143 countries/regions (+9)
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At this pace tomorrow there will be more cases outside of China than in China :(
Global:
153517 cases (+10982)
5735 deaths (+343)
China:
81048 cases (+27)
3204 deaths (+10)
Outside of China:
72469 cases (+10955)
2531 deaths (+333)
143 countries/regions (+9)
===
At this pace tomorrow there will be more cases outside of China than in China :(
dont think there is a European country, bisides maybe Italy, that has messed up as bad as the US.
Flatten the curve and try to hold it steady while we care for the sick and develop a vaccine, I assume
Yup, schools are the first thing they closed almost everywhere since kids are basically biological weapons because they're barely affected but highly infectious.