How much does this cost in the long term? $0. Unless you are counting the internet cost, but I assume you are using your internet for other things, and would have that anyways...
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Google Stadia Pro (4K/60, 5.1 surround) $9.99 a month. Stadia Base (1080/60) requires no subscription.
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I mean sort of. I have no need for a blu Ray player if I can just buy the movies online and watch them (and this doesn't go into the inherent advantages of digital streaming)
I'm not saying that this is better or worse, but the free tier is sorta like getting a free console (but we don't know of the console is good or not)
I've preordered one anyway. I'm interested to see what the game offerings for the subscription look like.
Can somebody alot smarter than me explain this to me and what I'm missing.
speedtest says I have this speed
and google says I have this speed
There seems to be a difference of 220 Mbps?
speedtest says I have this speed
and google says I have this speed
There seems to be a difference of 220 Mbps?
I haven't made a convincing argument about why it's better because I haven't been trying to. As I just said. Why not both.
Hear you describe legitimate problems for many players, but not all. While they require a port to stadia, I think that would bring plenty of players by being an option that is attractive in its own ways.
That is what a lot of people seem to be missing here. I don't have a gaming pc and see this potentially relaxing my next gen purchase
I actually don't have a data cap so I'd forgotten about that as a factor.
That's a big one.
It's a very contextual value proposition. If your internet is too slow or has a lower data cap you're completely out by default.
But.... you don't get any games to play with the subscription free option... it will just allow you to use the service and play the games that you purchase. Not really sure how that's a massive boon for indies... free to play on the other hand, sure.
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Definitely did not expect them to offer free version. Although the fact that not even the paid version supports more than 6ofps seems to ruin one of the best parts of PC gaming (high framerates).
The announced regions also kind of suck. I'm pretty sure I'd be closer to some Italian datacenters than a large number of Americans will be to their datacenter, but I can't even try the thing because I don't live in the correct country.
As for the premium price, $10 seems about right. I'm not going to pay for it, but PCs that get that performance do cost quite a bit of money, so it's the price I was pretty much expecting. Although again, I'd really expect 144fps support at that price. Especially considering Nvidia's streaming service does support it (I think it was for select games only right now, but it's definitely doable in a streaming platform). And a PC that can do 4K/60fps should be capable of 1080p/144fps.
The announced regions also kind of suck. I'm pretty sure I'd be closer to some Italian datacenters than a large number of Americans will be to their datacenter, but I can't even try the thing because I don't live in the correct country.
As for the premium price, $10 seems about right. I'm not going to pay for it, but PCs that get that performance do cost quite a bit of money, so it's the price I was pretty much expecting. Although again, I'd really expect 144fps support at that price. Especially considering Nvidia's streaming service does support it (I think it was for select games only right now, but it's definitely doable in a streaming platform). And a PC that can do 4K/60fps should be capable of 1080p/144fps.
You dont HAVE to pay a monthly fee though, unless you want 4K and discounts.
Its like saying have to pay for PS+ to play your PS4. sure you will miss out on some quality features but its not required
I still remember reading up on and generally agreeing with the skepticism over the lack of clarity/details about Stadia from the original reveal. Now we have some details and people are still unsure about what exactly the service is or how exactly it works.
Pretty much how I feel. To me the approach and details given for the service feels very oddly specific, to the point that I don't think the pitch they are selling will entice a general audience. Maybe if buying games to stream (old and new) was stupidly cheap, and the game library was vast and varied, and the streaming quality was as good as it's being touted to be across the board; then I could maybe see this service getting momentum beyond a niche demographic. But I can't say that I believe that Stadia will being able to meet all three of those goals at some point in its lifespan, let alone the idea that Stadia will tick any of those boxes starting at launch.
Let's check back on Sunday after MS announces details for xCloud.
My thoughts: I like what they're trying to do, and I hope they're successful in the future, but right now it's not worth it for me. Having said that, come November of 2020 I might be more interested in going with Stadia instead of paying $500 for the next Xbox or PS5. It just depends on what kind of software they have at that time.
As it is they really, desperately need more games.
As it is they really, desperately need more games.
I love how the first game you get with Stadia Pro is basically free for everyone now xD
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Do you bring your 65" OLED to your job to play some Destiny in your lunch break?
Depends on many variable. A new Playstation or Xbox owner may pay upwards of $500 or more for the new system that might not even play the games with as high of settings. Those new console owners will also likely be paying a monthly fee for Xbox Gold or Playstation Plus. Stadia also won't be static, the hardware will get better, your new console will stay the same. Your games will also likely only be played on that system only. There is also a free option coming next year.
It's been said multiple times that is only the base game they will get for free, Stadia players get the full package and new content coming.
Same. I don't think I could ever give up on consoles strictly because of Nintendo and Sony exclusives, but if Stadia is successful I could see it being my main choice for 3rd party games moving forward.
But if they port to mobile then there is little reason to port to Stadia. You aren't accessing a new audience at that point.
It costs $15 to get it in 4k. And I STILL have to buy new movies.
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Great post in the other thread that really nailed a lot of the issues people need to expect.
If Netflix also made you pay for each episode you want to watch on top of monthly fee.
I feel whole need to purchase games you want to stream on top of monthly fee little bit defeats point of streaming service.
I have a similar disparity.
I wonder if the test also includes a decode aspect - and it tests what 'throughput' your machine can handle end-to-end, not just on the network side, but also in terms of video bitrate decode speed. Maybe that's the bottleneck? (Might make sense for my laptop - not sure about your machine).
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That's what I've been trying to say but people don't understand me 😭
Same thing applies to Amazon Prime/Hulu.
Indie games are cheap, and I imagine it'll be far easier to convince a non-gamer to spend a one-time fee of $10-$20 then a one-time fee of $60.
Wait, are they saying you need a mobile phone to play on a tv?
This sounds incredibly complicated.
This sounds incredibly complicated.
You're right, I must've missed the part about Forsaken and Shadowkeep. My bad!
It's not though. The Stadia version comes with all the DLC, expansions, and Season Pass. The free one is only the base game with the season 1 DLC.
If you play on PS4 (1080p), you spend $60 on new games + $60/yr to play online + $300 for the system.
If you play on Stadia (1080p), you spend $60 on new games, but you get high-end PC graphics on any device.
I was skeptical at first when I heard the rumored pricing for Stadia. But after digesting it a little, I don't think it's too bad. Sure, the content isn't what I want right now, but it'll get there. They're subscription library will take time to be on the level of Game Pass for sure. But overall, it's not a bad pricing structure and I can see it being very successful.
Now I'm curious what xCloud will bring. I've been tied to the Xbox ecosystem for nearly two decades. If Microsoft does something similar, they'll have me for another two easy.
Now I'm curious what xCloud will bring. I've been tied to the Xbox ecosystem for nearly two decades. If Microsoft does something similar, they'll have me for another two easy.
Chromecast requires the Google Home app to set up. I wouldn't be too surprised if the Stadia controller also requires the Google Home app.
I somehow expected a stand alone dongle tbh, not something that needs a mobile phone.
It's obvious in retrospect, but man, this is protracted.
The amount of latency from wifi + vpn + google server distance is making me gag a little lol.
I think this bit right here is the key:
"Remember that the bitrates quoted are for the dedicated stream, not for your entire home connection. Which is to say that if you have a 50mbit service to the home, 35mbit needs to be dedicated to your Stadia stream. Have people in the house fire up Netflix, have a Ring camera go off, etc"
That right there is going to sour a lot of people that try it and as soon as someone else in their house goes to stream Netflix they get booted or it becomes unusable and people quickly giving up. This will happen A LOT and spread via WoM quickly I bet.
You need an app (Google Home) on your phone to sync the controller with your router. Something like that.
Yeah, not entirely sure. I'm on my PC which is decent and I'm hardwired in not using wifi or anything. I should probably check my laptop away from my modem to see what it's like.
It would've been nice to see the user interface today though. I actually think this was a pretty bad "reveal" event, but not for the reasons being beaten to death in this thread.
I think it's interesting that the controller connects with the server directly or something like that, so maybe that would help with latency. Hopefully, it will be at E3 so we can get a better idea of what its performance looks like.
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