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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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With the success of venom, Spiderman in MCU, and the PS4 game, sony think they have the balls to make a good Spiderman film
To be fair, I was not the biggest fan of spider MCU, but hillarious on Sony's part lol
To be fair, I was not the biggest fan of spider MCU, but hillarious on Sony's part lol
The money it made worldwide is proof there was still an audience for those movies. That they overspent in production doesn't contradict that point. Sony can look at the box office of the last couple of Spider-Man films they've made and probably feel comfortable they don't have to give in to a 50/50 split. Calling the franchise "dead" without Marvel is ludicrous.
it will be fucking wierd to see Holand's Spidey all of a sudden ignoring MCU and dealing with Venom and Jared Leto...
And that's incredibly stupid of Disney. They obviously didn't do their homework. Amazing Spider-Man 2 made $709 million. Far From Home made 1.1 billion. Let's say the third does comparable to Far From Home (probably not due to the Endgame bump), Sony would get just shy of $550 million. They could pump out another whatever Spider-Man film and still get a higher return than a 50/50 split. This isn't about appearances, it's about money. Disney wants more money so this is obvious, obvious to the point where Disney literally puts the shittiest deal in front of Sony (outside of 100%) and people are going, "WTF Sony you dumb! You ruined Spider-Man!!!!!!"
I think folks need to realize that no company is in it for the spectacle but money. Even Disney as they just so obviously displayed.
I knew Venom's success would fuck all this up. They think they'll make money releasing any piece of shit as long as the character is well known.
Good luck with Morbius.
Good luck with Morbius.
Does this mean no more Spidey in MCU movies, or just no Feige and Marvel support in Spidey movies?
If it's the latter, then eh, it sucks but I'm more into seeing Spidey/Tom Holland interact with the greater MCU cast. If it's the former... fuck this.
If it's the latter, then eh, it sucks but I'm more into seeing Spidey/Tom Holland interact with the greater MCU cast. If it's the former... fuck this.
But Disney is being too greedy. And while Sony had some real stinkers as far Spiderman/superhero movies goes, they also had some great ones. Hell the best spiderman movie has nothing to do with Disney. Hell, I can think of some real stinkers in the MCU too.
As long as the same talents in writing/director/acting are there the movies will be fine. Sony is just abiding by the existing contract.
Are you serious!? WTF Sony!?
Wait... how is this going to work now? Tom Holland's spider-man is completely enveloped in the MCU.
Is there next movie just not going to have MCU characters in it? How is that going to work?
Also, does the MCU just have to forget that Peter Parker and any other Spider-man characters exist now?
Wait... how is this going to work now? Tom Holland's spider-man is completely enveloped in the MCU.
Is there next movie just not going to have MCU characters in it? How is that going to work?
Also, does the MCU just have to forget that Peter Parker and any other Spider-man characters exist now?
Disney was being greedy and wanted more box office revenue from the films while keeping the merchandise revenue.
So this entire mess is squarely Disney's fault.
So this entire mess is squarely Disney's fault.
I don't understand why some are celebrating the movies going to the guy who was in charge during the X-Men movies and is known for rejecting the idea of Deadpool.
Yeah, the article makes it sound like Disney was trying to split the costs 50-50 with it potentially extending to other Spider-Man films, but Sony simply doesn't want to share the property.
Honestly I'm fascinated by this news. And it wouldn't surprise me if the sides do come back to the table.
Spider man is so engrained into the MCU character wise on this one that this could be messy for both sides.
But hey, maybe Uncle Ben can actually matter to Peter Parker again.
Spider man is so engrained into the MCU character wise on this one that this could be messy for both sides.
But hey, maybe Uncle Ben can actually matter to Peter Parker again.
Well, as long as we keep getting Spiderverse films, I'll be okay with waiting for them to eventually bring him back in phase 5.
Usually Sony f's up but not this time... no way in hell they give up 50% of the revenue. Even a crappy superhero spidey movie will make them more than sharing a blockbuster with 50% gone to Disney. Ack... damn you Disney.. I want far from home closure :(
So in hindsight should marvel had made a diffrent move in place of Spiderman 1
aka Inhumans
or was the Spiderman moments in civil war to endgame worth it?
aka Inhumans
or was the Spiderman moments in civil war to endgame worth it?
Why on Earth would they include Holland's Spidey now when they have absolutely zero control over what happens in his solo films, or have zero compensation from said films?
The entire point in the first place was coherency.
I think the OP should put in big bold letters that Disney asked for more money (50/50) and Sony declined because it was a dumb offer. It's quite obvious people won't really read the article and just blame Sony (as I did initially).
Sony has nothing as good as HC/FFH (aside from Spiderverse but that's different). Everyone is saying "as long as they hire the right people they'll be fine" like they've actually managed to do that in the past.
Spider-Man is THEIR CHARACTER and Sony only has the rights because Marvel sold them from a position of desperation to save the company.
Well, that pretty much messed-up the whole MCU. After Far From Home, i actually thought Spider-Man would be the leader of the new avengers, as in the comics.
Anything that sticks it to the MCU is cool with them as far as they're concerned
Yeah, but it could go well for him regarding his acting career, with jigs like those taken by Jake Gyllenhaal. He acts amazingly well.
Just thar now both are without a mainstream role. Maybe with DC?
I can't imagine there can be even a wisper of MCU in the next spiderman film. Even referencing past events I imagin, unless incredibly vauge.
It's gonna be okay. Marvel has way more characters I wanna see. No Spider-Man in MCU is okay to me. We have so many other avenues for more Spidey
Terrible for fans, but Sony doesn't care. They will just milk it till the wheels fall off then reboot it again. It's hard to fail with Spider-Man, though The Amazing Spider-Man 2 tested that dearly.
How could they screw this up at this juncture??! They've fully integrated Spider-Man into the MCU only for it to fall apart now with story threads still dangling?
There is absolutely no way they would have done what they did in FFH if they weren't pretty damn sure about the future.
In this thread: people who have no idea how negotiations work.
Sony was never going to get Disney to agree to reupping the current deal and Disney was likely never going to get 50% of the revenue. They can and should have negotiated for something similar to a 75/25 split.
With that said, this was clearly leaked to the press on purpose with the aim of stirring up the hornets nest in order to get one party to move. Looking at the optics, this screams to me that Disney is trying to send a message to Sony that a lot of the reason why Homecoming and Far From Home have been so successful is because he was under the Disney wing. They are hoping strong, fierce backlash will get Sony to change their mind.
This is marketing and PR 101 and is designed to soften negotiations. While they still might not come to a deal, I fully expect both sides to "work hard" and a deal will be reached at some point.
There is too much money at stake.
Sony was never going to get Disney to agree to reupping the current deal and Disney was likely never going to get 50% of the revenue. They can and should have negotiated for something similar to a 75/25 split.
With that said, this was clearly leaked to the press on purpose with the aim of stirring up the hornets nest in order to get one party to move. Looking at the optics, this screams to me that Disney is trying to send a message to Sony that a lot of the reason why Homecoming and Far From Home have been so successful is because he was under the Disney wing. They are hoping strong, fierce backlash will get Sony to change their mind.
This is marketing and PR 101 and is designed to soften negotiations. While they still might not come to a deal, I fully expect both sides to "work hard" and a deal will be reached at some point.
There is too much money at stake.
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