predict the metascore

  • 100

    Votes: 28 2.1%
  • 95-99

    Votes: 48 3.5%
  • 90-94

    Votes: 383 28.1%
  • 85-89

    Votes: 637 46.7%
  • 80-84

    Votes: 209 15.3%
  • 75-79

    Votes: 35 2.6%
  • under 75

    Votes: 24 1.8%

  • Total voters
    1,364
  • Poll closed .

LinkStrikesBack

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,503
Though a bit surprised you dont agree with the other points - obviously popularity and huge install base could have impact on XC DE, even more so than the install base when XC2 launched. There were less than 10M units sold at the time of XC2 release, now more than 50M

Yes, and those forty million extra units were all free to buy XBC2 if they were interested in the series. It's not disappeared from existence in the interim. A simpler presumption is that the series reach is just actually not very much bigger than the couple million XBC2 has probably sold now, and a remake of an earlier game is about the least likely thing in the world to change that, short of just dumping the rom at a higher resolution.

XC has never been put in a situation to succeed before, Wii release for obvious reasons, 3DS release locked to New 3DS and the Wii U digital release.. well it was on the flippin Wii U.
You're confusing NA's poor treatment of XBC1 with the rest of the world. Everywhere else it got as big of a push as you'd actually expect for a game of its reach, and had plenty of chance to meet this vague definition of succeed.

Smash influence is ofc a joker, it might or might not - it's definately not a negative and in no way did it affect XC2 at least.

Right, so your argument is that Smash (1) can provide a noticeable effect for xenoblade but also (2) cannot have provided any effect at all either of the two new games in the series released after xenoblade was added to smash. Well, that's a massive logic jump I can't follow.

Even if XBCDE is a massive success, that'll also translate in to a bunch of people going out and buying the sequel that's also on the same platform already, so it'll still end up behind the launch year game that had a year of updates, is a new title, and had plenty of head start.
 

Trelova

Banned
Apr 8, 2020
814
reasonably, it'll end up above the 3DS version due to being a notable upgrade and below Wii just because it has more expectations on its back than the original.

XC is a proper IP at this point and that comes with the weight of expectations. and that it's not an end of life Wii game or exclusive to New 3DS deal, it's a legit part of Switch's big lineup.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,400
Midgar, With Love
I guess it's time for a brand new episode of my cheeky pseudo-predictions...

"Nine years ago, we said Xenoblade Chronicles was a breath of fresh air in a stale genre. A fresh coat of paint helps elevate it to today's standards, but some nagging resolution issues slightly mar the experience." -IGN (8)

"Fans of the breakout original title will be delighted to know that the new story chapter is even weirder than it appears. At last we have a truly Definitive Edition." -Destructoid (9)

"On the eve of this review's looming deadline, I sped across the interstate at over 90 miles per hour frantically attempting to deliver my roommate to the airport before her flight to New York. I didn't think to ask her why she was going to New York; I simply pretended that I wielded the Monado, and only I could guarantee her a brighter tomorrow. I send this article to Kotaku dot com by way of a prison cell." -Kotaku (Recommended)

"All that is to say that I can't help feeling a bit underwhelmed with Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition. There was a once-in-a-lifetime chance here to turn a good game into something perfect but Takahashi and his team opted toward a more conservative, anime-infused, brush-up. It's worth a purchase to see what all the fuss is about but it might be best to wait for a better bargain." -GameSpot (7)

"Fluttering through the bravely bizarre landscapes will cost players dozens of hours of their lives, but updated visuals and an excellent aural aura makes it time well spent. By the time I finished my sojourn across Bionis, I wished only that the more meticulous and irksome subsystems present within the game had been extinguished as well, for I would have sojourned all over again." -Eurogamer (Recommended)

"Xenoblade Chronicles sold 31.7% to its potential in 2011 and 2012, a statistically grim digit spurred by below-average software attachment to the aging hardware it arrived upon. Necessary comparisons, albeit unwelcome ones, include the middling performance of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci's crashed-course summer tentpole, Cowboys and Aliens. Disney was smart to purchase Lucasfilm to the tune of just over $4 billion, though Nintendo must be conservative in light of recent rounding errors. Given the present theater landscape, I am 83.5% likelier to pick up Xenoblade today than I was yesterday." -Forbes (83.5%?)

"I camped outside my local Walmart for 48 hours (while wearing a mask) so that I could be the very first gamer in my neighborhood to hold this gem in my hands. As it turns out, I was the only person waiting, and I didn't see anyone else purchase a copy by the time I left the store at 12:28AM. I did, however, record the experience." -Tim Rogers ("It's like eating Wooloo-flavored curry after a long hike through a desolate, RPG-devoid desert; it's basically perfect and I'm never camping outside a Walmart again")

"Pre-release resolution woes were sadly spot-on, and the overindulgent localization is as incredulous today as it was in years past. Xenoblade Chronicles isn't a bad game by any means, but Death Stranding is." -Stevivor (6)

"I named my firstborn daughter after Melia immediately after clearing the game. Nintendo has once again proven the earth is spherical." -NintendoLife (10)
 

Trelova

Banned
Apr 8, 2020
814
I guess it's time for a brand new episode of my cheeky pseudo-predictions...

"Nine years ago, we said Xenoblade Chronicles was a breath of fresh air in a stale genre. A fresh coat of paint helps elevate it to today's standards, but some nagging resolution issues slightly mar the experience." -IGN (8)

"Fans of the breakout original title will be delighted to know that the new story chapter is even weirder than it appears. At last we have a truly Definitive Edition." -Destructoid (9)

"On the eve of this review's looming deadline, I sped across the interstate at over 90 miles per hour frantically attempting to deliver my roommate to the airport before her flight to New York. I didn't think to ask her why she was going to New York; I simply pretended that I wielded the Monado, and only I could guarantee her a brighter tomorrow. I send this article to Kotaku dot com by way of a prison cell." -Kotaku (Recommended)

"All that is to say that I can't help feeling a bit underwhelmed with Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition. There was a once-in-a-lifetime chance here to turn a good game into something perfect but Takahashi and his team opted toward a more conservative, anime-infused, brush-up. It's worth a purchase to see what all the fuss is about but it might be best to wait for a better bargain." -GameSpot (7)

"Fluttering through the bravely bizarre landscapes will cost players dozens of hours of their lives, but updated visuals and an excellent aural aura makes it time well spent. By the time I finished my sojourn across Bionis, I wished only that the more meticulous and irksome subsystems present within the game had been extinguished as well, for I would have sojourned all over again." -Eurogamer (Recommended)

"Xenoblade Chronicles sold 31.7% to its potential in 2011 and 2012, a statistically grim digit spurred by below-average software attachment to the aging hardware it arrived upon. Necessary comparisons, albeit unwelcome ones, include the middling performance of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci's crashed-course summer tentpole, Cowboys and Aliens. Disney was smart to purchase Lucasfilm to the tune of just over $4 billion, though Nintendo must be conservative in light of recent rounding errors. Given the present theater landscape, I am 83.5% likelier to pick up Xenoblade today than I was yesterday." -Forbes (83.5%?)

"I camped outside my local Walmart for 48 hours (while wearing a mask) so that I could be the very first gamer in my neighborhood to hold this gem in my hands. As it turns out, I was the only person waiting, and I didn't see anyone else purchase a copy by the time I left the store at 12:28AM. I did, however, record the experience." -Tim Rogers ("It's like eating Wooloo-flavored curry after a long hike through a desolate, RPG-devoid desert; it's basically perfect and I'm never camping outside a Walmart again")

"Pre-release resolution woes were sadly spot-on, and the overindulgent localization is as incredulous today as it was in years past. Xenoblade Chronicles isn't a bad game by any means, but Death Stranding is." -Stevivor (6)

"I named my firstborn daughter after Melia immediately after clearing the game. Nintendo has once again proven the earth is spherical." -NintendoLife (10)

you seemed serious to start with and now i dont know anymore lol
 

Plum

Member
May 31, 2018
17,331
Tried TheGameCollection?

I've ordered from there multiple times and I dont even live in the UK. They've never failed me..
Shopto are super reputable, been using them since 2009

Thegamecollection and simplygames are very good for if you want to get your games a day or two early fyi

Thanks! I might try The Game Collection but it's £50 there instead of £42 on ShopTo (and £40 for the digital). Simply Games seems like a better bet but me getting it tomorrow seems really unlikely.
 

Tora

The Enlightened Wise Ones
Member
Jun 17, 2018
8,651
Thanks! I might try The Game Collection but it's £50 there instead of £42 on ShopTo (and £40 for the digital). Simply Games seems like a better bet but me getting it tomorrow seems really unlikely.
Usually it'd say that it's in stock on simplygames, I checked on their Twitter page and they're dispatching Xenoblade tomorrow, so you'd get it Friday.

I think at this point it's fair to just expect Friday and if you don't care about physical, there's always shopto
 

Zedark

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
I guess it's time for a brand new episode of my cheeky pseudo-predictions...

"Nine years ago, we said Xenoblade Chronicles was a breath of fresh air in a stale genre. A fresh coat of paint helps elevate it to today's standards, but some nagging resolution issues slightly mar the experience." -IGN (8)

"Fans of the breakout original title will be delighted to know that the new story chapter is even weirder than it appears. At last we have a truly Definitive Edition." -Destructoid (9)

"On the eve of this review's looming deadline, I sped across the interstate at over 90 miles per hour frantically attempting to deliver my roommate to the airport before her flight to New York. I didn't think to ask her why she was going to New York; I simply pretended that I wielded the Monado, and only I could guarantee her a brighter tomorrow. I send this article to Kotaku dot com by way of a prison cell." -Kotaku (Recommended)

"All that is to say that I can't help feeling a bit underwhelmed with Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition. There was a once-in-a-lifetime chance here to turn a good game into something perfect but Takahashi and his team opted toward a more conservative, anime-infused, brush-up. It's worth a purchase to see what all the fuss is about but it might be best to wait for a better bargain." -GameSpot (7)

"Fluttering through the bravely bizarre landscapes will cost players dozens of hours of their lives, but updated visuals and an excellent aural aura makes it time well spent. By the time I finished my sojourn across Bionis, I wished only that the more meticulous and irksome subsystems present within the game had been extinguished as well, for I would have sojourned all over again." -Eurogamer (Recommended)

"Xenoblade Chronicles sold 31.7% to its potential in 2011 and 2012, a statistically grim digit spurred by below-average software attachment to the aging hardware it arrived upon. Necessary comparisons, albeit unwelcome ones, include the middling performance of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci's crashed-course summer tentpole, Cowboys and Aliens. Disney was smart to purchase Lucasfilm to the tune of just over $4 billion, though Nintendo must be conservative in light of recent rounding errors. Given the present theater landscape, I am 83.5% likelier to pick up Xenoblade today than I was yesterday." -Forbes (83.5%?)

"I camped outside my local Walmart for 48 hours (while wearing a mask) so that I could be the very first gamer in my neighborhood to hold this gem in my hands. As it turns out, I was the only person waiting, and I didn't see anyone else purchase a copy by the time I left the store at 12:28AM. I did, however, record the experience." -Tim Rogers ("It's like eating Wooloo-flavored curry after a long hike through a desolate, RPG-devoid desert; it's basically perfect and I'm never camping outside a Walmart again")

"Pre-release resolution woes were sadly spot-on, and the overindulgent localization is as incredulous today as it was in years past. Xenoblade Chronicles isn't a bad game by any means, but Death Stranding is." -Stevivor (6)

"I named my firstborn daughter after Melia immediately after clearing the game. Nintendo has once again proven the earth is spherical." -NintendoLife (10)
LMAO those are great!
 

SPRidley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,267
I guess it's time for a brand new episode of my cheeky pseudo-predictions...

"Nine years ago, we said Xenoblade Chronicles was a breath of fresh air in a stale genre. A fresh coat of paint helps elevate it to today's standards, but some nagging resolution issues slightly mar the experience." -IGN (8)

"Fans of the breakout original title will be delighted to know that the new story chapter is even weirder than it appears. At last we have a truly Definitive Edition." -Destructoid (9)

"On the eve of this review's looming deadline, I sped across the interstate at over 90 miles per hour frantically attempting to deliver my roommate to the airport before her flight to New York. I didn't think to ask her why she was going to New York; I simply pretended that I wielded the Monado, and only I could guarantee her a brighter tomorrow. I send this article to Kotaku dot com by way of a prison cell." -Kotaku (Recommended)

"All that is to say that I can't help feeling a bit underwhelmed with Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition. There was a once-in-a-lifetime chance here to turn a good game into something perfect but Takahashi and his team opted toward a more conservative, anime-infused, brush-up. It's worth a purchase to see what all the fuss is about but it might be best to wait for a better bargain." -GameSpot (7)

"Fluttering through the bravely bizarre landscapes will cost players dozens of hours of their lives, but updated visuals and an excellent aural aura makes it time well spent. By the time I finished my sojourn across Bionis, I wished only that the more meticulous and irksome subsystems present within the game had been extinguished as well, for I would have sojourned all over again." -Eurogamer (Recommended)

"Xenoblade Chronicles sold 31.7% to its potential in 2011 and 2012, a statistically grim digit spurred by below-average software attachment to the aging hardware it arrived upon. Necessary comparisons, albeit unwelcome ones, include the middling performance of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci's crashed-course summer tentpole, Cowboys and Aliens. Disney was smart to purchase Lucasfilm to the tune of just over $4 billion, though Nintendo must be conservative in light of recent rounding errors. Given the present theater landscape, I am 83.5% likelier to pick up Xenoblade today than I was yesterday." -Forbes (83.5%?)

"I camped outside my local Walmart for 48 hours (while wearing a mask) so that I could be the very first gamer in my neighborhood to hold this gem in my hands. As it turns out, I was the only person waiting, and I didn't see anyone else purchase a copy by the time I left the store at 12:28AM. I did, however, record the experience." -Tim Rogers ("It's like eating Wooloo-flavored curry after a long hike through a desolate, RPG-devoid desert; it's basically perfect and I'm never camping outside a Walmart again")

"Pre-release resolution woes were sadly spot-on, and the overindulgent localization is as incredulous today as it was in years past. Xenoblade Chronicles isn't a bad game by any means, but Death Stranding is." -Stevivor (6)

"I named my firstborn daughter after Melia immediately after clearing the game. Nintendo has once again proven the earth is spherical." -NintendoLife (10)
I had to search for stevivor lol
Gamespot always sounds like someone has pissed on their cereals each monring lol
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
Destructoid has a chance to redeem themselves. EGM with the 65 lol

Xenoblade Chronicles critic reviews

Metacritic aggregates music, game, tv, and movie reviews from the leading critics. Only Metacritic.com uses METASCORES, which let you know at a glance how each item was reviewed.
 

Plum

Member
May 31, 2018
17,331
Usually it'd say that it's in stock on simplygames, I checked on their Twitter page and they're dispatching Xenoblade tomorrow, so you'd get it Friday.

I think at this point it's fair to just expect Friday and if you don't care about physical, there's always shopto

Thanks and, yeah I'm expecting it Friday now. Went with ShopTo physical as I already had an account there. Hopefully it should get here soon but, eh, I don't really mind it not getting it right on release date.
 

Oregano

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,878
I hope my Shopto Limited Edition arrives on Friday. I finished Trials of Mana last week and held off on starting anything else...
 
Jan 2, 2018
10,699
Think they're counting the Wii U eshop release.
Wii -> 3DS -> Wii U eshop -> Switch
Somehow landing to an exclusive New 3DS and on the Wii U will impact the sales for the Switch remake lmao

But even if you count the Wii U "re-release" (lol), it would be the third "re-release", not the fourth, you can't count the original as a "re-release". So the argument is bad and just factually wrong.
 

Mbolibombo

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,043
Yes, and those forty million extra units were all free to buy XBC2 if they were interested in the series. It's not disappeared from existence in the interim. A simpler presumption is that the series reach is just actually not very much bigger than the couple million XBC2 has probably sold now, and a remake of an earlier game is about the least likely thing in the world to change that, short of just dumping the rom at a higher resolution.

Promoting a game to 50 million user base
vs
Promoting a game to 10 million user base

JRPG's rarely have that those legs the big bulk of it's sales comes from the first month(s). XC2 had some for sure, but not compared to non jrpgs.

You're confusing NA's poor treatment of XBC1 with the rest of the world. Everywhere else it got as big of a push as you'd actually expect for a game of its reach, and had plenty of chance to meet this vague definition of succeed.

You are confusing big push with limited push at the end of a systems lifespan, where it's popularity already waned with vs a push on a system in what could be it's peak year.

Right, so your argument is that Smash (1) can provide a noticeable effect for xenoblade but also (2) cannot have provided any effect at all either of the two new games in the series released after xenoblade was added to smash. Well, that's a massive logic jump I can't follow.

You cant follow the "massive" logic that is that a very popular Smash Character is the main character in XC but not in XC2 or XCX?
Alrighty then.

Even if XBCDE is a massive success, that'll also translate in to a bunch of people going out and buying the sequel that's also on the same platform already, so it'll still end up behind the launch year game that had a year of updates, is a new title, and had plenty of head start.

We'll see I guess.. or not. We havnt gotten an update on XC2 shipments in a very long time and probably wont get from Nintendo themselves.

But whatever, this discussion is going nowhere and obviously we wont agree on anything.
You are locked in on that it wont surpass XC2
I think there's a chance it happens.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,382
I have absolutely no faith in reviewers to get anywhere close to what my opinion will be after I've played it. Kind of watching this thread out of morbid curiosity.
 

MrBS

"This guy are sick"
Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,291
100 or higher, don't bother quoting me later I've already won.
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
30,205
87. It will get knocked for not having a new line on the level of "I'm Really Feeling It!" in Future Connected
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,698
for reference:

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I guess it will score in the 70s. Can't dispute math.
 

MaitreWakou

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
May 15, 2018
13,180
Toulouse, France
90-94. It's the best version of what is widely considered as one of the best JRPG ever. The QOL for the side quests alone makes it a must have and the absolute definitive edition.
People doubted that Persona 5 Royal would get around as much as the first one while it was better and longer than the original. The same applies here. Better (lots of QOL features, no more shitty looking characters), longer (a Torna-like expansion included), yeah it's gonna get about the same as the OG imo. No way it gets around 80-82 like some say, it won't lose a dozen of points since the OG, game design wise it hasn't aged at all.
 

Mbolibombo

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,043
Thanks! I might try The Game Collection but it's £50 there instead of £42 on ShopTo (and £40 for the digital). Simply Games seems like a better bet but me getting it tomorrow seems really unlikely.

Yeah I saw that, I'm honestly surprised it's priced at 50. TGC usually is cheaper than many others.

But no matter, love TGC. Great store. Had they been located in my own country I had used them a lot more than I already do.
 

TheMoon

|OT|
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,782
Video Games
too many threads:

cross-post x3:
Interesting, amazon.de estimate on the order page now says Monday June 8. Meanwhile, Saturn.de already shipped the other CE copy. I'm about to cancel the amazon.de order. Keep an eye out if you're still looking for the CE (and amazonDE ships to your location)
 

dedge

Member
Sep 15, 2019
2,432
Really interested in this but my Switch rpg backlog is so large so not sure lol. Will see if the reviews push me over the edge lol
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
With the way some of yall are talking, DE will be lucky to match XC1's sales in NA
 

otretas

Member
Nov 1, 2017
222
It really doesn't add anything to the story, forced side questing, combat improvements are undermined by everyone having orb master by default making spamming arts much more effective than making a game plan towards each orbs
I completly disagree with the story part, but i do see your other points.
 

bonch00ski

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,818
It'll hover in the 85 - 87 range with most saying it looks better than the original, has some ice QoL adjustments....but it hasn't aged well beyond that.
 

VegiHam

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,626
"Anime" has no longer any meaning in Resetera.
Honest question: what word do you want people to use instead? There is an obvious quality to a lot of Xenoblade 2s choices compared to Xenoblade 1 that I can't think of a way to articulate other than saying it's more anime.
 

Burt

Fight Sephiroth or end video games
Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,208
You... think that my gripe is fidelity, and not that Shulk looks like they lopped the head off an early 2000s 11-year-old shaggy-haired Disney Channel sitcom kid with cool parents, soaked it in a vat they stole out of Willy Wonka's basement, and slapped it on the body of a late teens-ager?
 
Jul 26, 2018
4,711
I expect 90+ due to the immense amount of praise the game has gotten even to this day.

Maybe I'm hyping it too much but this seems like an improvement in many ways over the original.

Remember people saying "but what if it was made with next gen consoles in mind?" Here you go.

Ehhh not necessarily how reviews work.