Part of the problem is unlocking hero classes for party members though...
Exactly. The game literally holds you back from progressing if you play it too much. "oops, looks like you're enjoying exploring too much, let me slow your character progression to a crawl!"
An update to allow unlocking classes with nopon coins would be a good start.
Oh yeah I totally forgot about that. I assumed they had a different meter. Yeah I really hope its patched or improved somehow as its just unnecessary.
True but for example this doesn't fix class unlocking being basically locked if you're underleveled because the bar doesn't progress
Thanks for the details. But I still don't know what does numbers underneath each characters(35-25-15) means. Is that some percentage that will fill the top bar?
Yeah, that's the base number it'll start with. Those are always the same (Taion is 35, Sena 15, etc.).
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adding to this, like astro just posted, the threadmarks have a written outline of how they work and the video guide is also linked there.
Some enemies apparently can aggro even if you are 50 levels above, it's annoying tbh
Trigger an Ouroboros order from a regular chain attack by using orders from both interlink partners. Time it so the second partner goes on the "last" turn so that you get one more for Oroboros. Doing it this way gives you 5 rounds during a chain attack.
Once you execute an Ouroboros order this way the chain attack ends.
For sure. It's one of those little tweaks they could easily make to make the experience more pleasant. I've been dragging one Hero unit around for like four hours and nobody has learned her unique job, which just begs the question of why I'm even fighting enemies at all if I'm not getting any EXP or class progress for it.
Yeah it happened to me yesterday and I just gave up, it's absurd
Finished Xenoblade 3
What a beautiful ride, I absolutely loved it. The bittersweet ending hit me hard. It took me a few chapters to like everyone in the main cast but by the end I was fully invested in everyone's stories. Biggest complain is the uneven pacing, especially in the second half, and some shortcomings when it came to the writing of the villains.
But damn it was a pleasure to explore Aionios . Immenses zones with beautiful vista, even if the switch often struggled. After the slight disappointment that was Xenoblade 2 and its much shorter zones, I'm glad to find again the borderless exploration of Xenoblade 1 (it almost felt like Xenoblade X in the most alien zones like Elaice Highway.
Visually it was a step up from the previous games, with more detailled and more animated characters models, better ingame resolution and some absolutely wild cutscenes. At this point I would say that only Botw 2 and another Monster Hunter game could be more impressive. I'm really looking forward to what Monolith will cook for the switch's succesor.
And shootout to Nia for playing Queen and Rex for being a gigachad!
Overall my ranking would be the following : XCX > XC1 >= XC3 > XC2
I hope the future expansion will be about the worlds being reunited for good.
But damn it was a pleasure to explore Aionios . Immenses zones with beautiful vista, even if the switch often struggled. After the slight disappointment that was Xenoblade 2 and its much shorter zones, I'm glad to find again the borderless exploration of Xenoblade 1 (it almost felt like Xenoblade X in the most alien zones like Elaice Highway.
Visually it was a step up from the previous games, with more detailled and more animated characters models, better ingame resolution and some absolutely wild cutscenes. At this point I would say that only Botw 2 and another Monster Hunter game could be more impressive. I'm really looking forward to what Monolith will cook for the switch's succesor.
And shootout to Nia for playing Queen and Rex for being a gigachad!
Overall my ranking would be the following : XCX > XC1 >= XC3 > XC2
I hope the future expansion will be about the worlds being reunited for good.
Someone said you could unlock the revive without healer accessory without coins but I still haven't found it anywhere, hopefully I find it soon
The clas unlock issue is particularly problematic because you do earn some xp and cp for low enemies but not for class unlock? So I've been able to keep leveling my current classes and my characters but still are not unlocking new ones.
It's a really annoying flaw - especially when it is very easy to overlevel just doing a few hero quests.
It's a really annoying flaw - especially when it is very easy to overlevel just doing a few hero quests.
I haven't used bonus XP and I'm 18 levels above the story area lmao
While I agree that they should patch the game to either let you unlock classes with Silver Nopon Coins or let you level down before the postgame (or both) I don't think you can truly lock yourself out of unlocking new classes, you just need to explore more.
Like I was way above the story path level earlier in the game, but I was able to go explore around north of Alexandria's colony and found monsters of my level that I could fight. The same thing just happened to me in Chapter 5. I was doing one of the optional hero quests and was 10+ levels above the quest mobs, but just a little bit off of the required path I found plenty of monsters that were even a little bit above my level I could get my unlocks on. Just running down a quick stretch and popping the elites I ran into got my full party to unlock the newest class I had picked up. And particularly targeting elites gets you CP super fast so there isn't even much of a grind.
The areas are huge and there is no shortage of higher-level sections within reach at just about any point in the game.
Like I was way above the story path level earlier in the game, but I was able to go explore around north of Alexandria's colony and found monsters of my level that I could fight. The same thing just happened to me in Chapter 5. I was doing one of the optional hero quests and was 10+ levels above the quest mobs, but just a little bit off of the required path I found plenty of monsters that were even a little bit above my level I could get my unlocks on. Just running down a quick stretch and popping the elites I ran into got my full party to unlock the newest class I had picked up. And particularly targeting elites gets you CP super fast so there isn't even much of a grind.
The areas are huge and there is no shortage of higher-level sections within reach at just about any point in the game.
Today I had amazing fights on Hard, but I'm getting a bit tired of having to run 3 healers to stand a chance because I also like to try other heroes occasionally
I often consider myself an incredibly cynical/apathetic person when it comes to "emotional" stuff in games, specifically writing and story beats. Very little actually gets to me, but that whole segment nearly destroyed me - I can only think of a few games EVER that've done that. The end of Chapter 5 specifically...
...followed by the twist that kicks off Chapter 6 which I didn't see coming. Takahashi you cruel but clever bastard.
Heard it's a UM in the (ch3 spoiler) "waterfall area". I think the one near Colony lambda? I had one in my inventory and I noticed today. The only gravestone I have in the area is "Shimmering Marcko". You need to grind the wires from the spider boss (where riku & manana fused) to get to it.
I unlocked Flash Fencer and I've been using it on Noah. This shit builds way so much aggro it's practically unusable.
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have you outfitted your tanks correctly, though.
use the anti-aggro gem
I've been maining it since I unlocked it and the damage it does is worth it imo
Thanks will look into it
I haven't had that issue at all on normal. Without knowing your party setup, are you playing as Noah or a tank? If you attack the enemy with Noah off the rip you'll pull aggro, obviously. I tend to start battles with a tank for that reason.
Also have two tanks at all times helps. With heroes I often roll 3. Hero tanks seem to do the best job of pulling aggro IMO.
Without doing spoilers you have to wait a little to get a hero tank and even well into chapter 5 I only have two hero tanks.
Are you talking about overkill? You should definitely be turning that off in the options menu if so and you want to stop over leveling.
Same. I was really worried about getting over leveled, but I run from most mob encounters that I can, and then I tend to run all the more generic side quests that will probably have encounters only once I'm like 5+ levels over the requirement so it doesn't give me much xp. Of course the solution should just be give us the damn option already in the game to lower our level so I could engage more freely without these concerns, but I'm just happy the story can still give me plenty of challenge.
Even on Hard it isn't a big issue imo, the only difference is you need 3 healers to constantly keep your most targeted characters in top shape at all times
I've been doing every hero quest I can, with the most recent being the hero from Colony 11, and I'm only level 45 in Chapter 5 after just reaching the City. Most trash mobs are pretty easy and blue elites go down without a problem, but I still have to use all of my tools to take down uniques I run into.
Edit: I'm not running from most fights, but I'm not seeking out trash mobs either. I'll actively avoid big groups of lower leveled trash if I can do so. I'm also not clearing every nook and cranny of the map, but I am chasing down shinies whenever I see them (including the "pick a side" battles).
I agree that the game presents you with a choose your own adventure option for tougher enemies, if you seek them out. Conversely the bonus XP seems like a built-in difficulty modifier. I've never once used it and I think the challenge is just a tad lower than where I'd like it to be.
That being said, the last story boss in Ch. 4 is the first boss to KO me, which tells me the game is starting to push me to use my tools instead of relying on a slight level advantage. I hope it keeps up that way.
Given that I'm 45 where I am, and have what I believe to be all of the heroes I can get so far, I have had zero problems getting enough CP for class unlocks. I'm not needlessly grinding either - I'm mostly moving past trash mobs but engaging blue elites and uniques whenever possible.
I am always rotating classes in my party once they're maxed (lv10). Don't you unlock faster if several party members are set to the class?
I'm playing through 2 for the first time and just finished chapter 6 and this still happens, it's so annoying haha
Tbh I haven't been seeking trash mobs and I'm still 48 at the starting portion of chapter 4, the good thing is Hard Mode is still absurdly hard overleveled so it evens out, but I wish it had an option to downlevel :/
I'm enjoying the game a lot. I'm on Chapter 6 and damn, it may be my favorite one so far, the party is the best of the 3 games at least for me (I haven't played XCX) and the story is quite engaging
I've noticed all the early areas have higher level enemies that you can't get past yet, leading to large portions of the map that need to be discovered. For example, in the Forniz reason to the West, there's level 44+ enemies and I'm only 29 currently. Noted it for later when I need to use them to level classes.
I'd imagine this is true for all areas.
Have you cleared the above area? You could go there right now if not and harvest those enemies for CP.
It starts from Dies Arch landmark fast travel point.
You do, yes. It's always best to set at least two of your types to that class once they've unlocked it to speed up the rest.
Right now I'm running two Fencers for my attakcers and two War Medics, for example.
Well, you could go back there and kill those enemies again to get needed CP, they're within range.
I just got to chapter 3. I'm really digging this game, I'm impressed with how the combat and the world is expanding. I heard Chapter 3 is the super long one, right?
Also, do I get more classes? My characters have already leveled through a good number of the available ones from the party. Or is there something else they introduce.
Also, do I get more classes? My characters have already leveled through a good number of the available ones from the party. Or is there something else they introduce.
Nope, every single one of them is already blackened out, so they don't give unlock progress