I'd like to echo what others have said about that scene in chapter 5. It got me to chuckle, and nearly tear up at different points. My favorite scene in the game so far, and probably one of the best in any jrpg. It just felt incredibly genuine.
Fellow easy mode gamers, how are things going for you? I typically don't engage with the deep combat mechanics of JRPGs (play mostly for story) and XC3 is starting to lay them on thick. Wondering how people are fairing if only lightly engaging with that stuff and keeping it pretty simple battle wise, so to speak?
To see what I mean, I'm hesitant about changing up the classes because it's throwing the "canon" outfits out of whack in cutscenes lol
To see what I mean, I'm hesitant about changing up the classes because it's throwing the "canon" outfits out of whack in cutscenes lol
You can choose your outfit independently of the class. It's under the character menu.
I always forget how annoying it is when a massive open game has a genuinely engaging story. I don't wanna rush the game because all this side content is also surprisingly good, but….I also really fucking need to see what happens next!
I only assume it's Fiora because the statue is next to the Shulk-looking statue and don't know who else it could be referencing. The one with the red sword, who was a master to the actual founder is Rex. The one with 2 greatswords and an eyepatch must be Zeke. The Fei looking dude is Noah (which implies he's a Vandham and related to Monica and Ghondor lol) the cat lady next to that is Mio? There's definitely a cutscene at the beginning of chapter 6 that shows Noah and Mio around the first Ouroboros seed.
You can lock costumes to their defaults regardless of class choice if you want.
One thing I hope they add in a future update is the ability to speed up chain attack animations because they take so damn long especially when you're doing them multiple times in a fight.
Or just let me mute the theme, it gets tiring. Honestly, I feel like the combat kind of falls apart around Chapter 4, too much of the power shifts to Chains. You can basically AFK a boss until the CA is filled and then knock off half of their HP or even kill them.
The combat is all in all vastly improved from previous entries but it feels the most completely imbalanced in terms of power distribution.
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
I cant
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YOUVE BEEN WARNED
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The smile on my fucking face during this fight
Melia and Nia fucking transforming their castles into giant big ass mechs and joining the fight
The camaraderie between the two queens
All the heroes joining your fight
Then beating the shit out of Z with the CRAZIEST guitar solos
Then Melia and Nia actually joining the fight in person!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKK
THEY LOOK SO GOOOOD
AHHHHHHH
lmao did she just use starlight kick???
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YOUVE BEEN WARNED
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The smile on my fucking face during this fight
Melia and Nia fucking transforming their castles into giant big ass mechs and joining the fight
The camaraderie between the two queens
All the heroes joining your fight
Then beating the shit out of Z with the CRAZIEST guitar solos
Then Melia and Nia actually joining the fight in person!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKK
THEY LOOK SO GOOOOD
AHHHHHHH
lmao did she just use starlight kick???
I cant
I fully agree, open world games with a story that really catches your attention are like double edged swords lmao. On one hand you want to take your time and experience everything, from the maps to side quests that expand upon the world and characters(and concerning XC3 you really want to unlock all of the heroes). On the the other hand you just want to see where the story goes next because again, it's just that good lol.
Whoever decided to give the English version of Riku a deep voice deserves a raise. I can't help but smile whenever he speaks. It deserves to be in the pantheon of great localization changes.
Seeing numbers like this tempt me to take the difficulty down to normal mode lol. Chain attacks do less damage on Hard in the same time you could do normal arts, chain attacks/Ouroboros are defensive options on Hard
Highest chain attack I've done so far in hard is 1.3 million damage but I also don't have access to certain things I've heard is busted in them like a certain class I've heard really facilitates high power chain attacks
I see. Ok, this is what I think:
House Ortiz is Shulk. Literally looks like Shulk, is a mechanic, etc.
House Cassini is Zeke. Eye patch, rebellious, big guy.
House Reid with the cape is Rex. Mentions his big red sword.
House Rhodes could be Fiora. But I'm not sure.
Then statues of Noah and Mio.
Interesting stuff!
House Ortiz is Shulk. Literally looks like Shulk, is a mechanic, etc.
House Cassini is Zeke. Eye patch, rebellious, big guy.
House Reid with the cape is Rex. Mentions his big red sword.
House Rhodes could be Fiora. But I'm not sure.
Then statues of Noah and Mio.
Interesting stuff!
Just reached the end of chapter 4, finally after days on it doing sidequests.
What
the
fuck.
Alright now I'm interested in the story, finally.
What
the
fuck.
Alright now I'm interested in the story, finally.
Just finished.
I cried.
Gonna need some time to process it but its easily GOTY.
I cried.
Gonna need some time to process it but its easily GOTY.
LMAOOOOOOOO
This man. I cant wait to dive into the spoiler thread for that full photo.
This man. I cant wait to dive into the spoiler thread for that full photo.
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Absolutely minging
That reminds me, I consider myself pretty up on English slang but mio used a term yesterday I had never heard before and had to look up, which is a first. I'll have to event theatre it later. It was a scene with her and Noah and taion just after the start of chapter 4
I don't have this game yet but I've watched it running. I gotta say the story intrigues me. I couldve sworn I've heard of this trope before somewhere before but I cannot remember where? Young soldiers dying early?
Very interesting concept.
I disagree with that, to be frank. There's no way the appeal will be even remotely the same for those who haven't played both previous games first. Sure, they might "understand" it, but they won't truly appreciate it. The 1/2 stuff is far from additive bonus stuff; it's basically the entire point of the game.
But that brings us back to the earlier point of the game's world not having a hook besides being the 1 and 2 worlds fused together. The primary reason to be intrigued by the set-up in the first place is because the player wants to know how 1 and 2 came together to produce 3. And there's just no way the player will be as curious about that if he hasn't already played 1 and 2 (or at least one or the other).
I mean, I get that people are going to want to be defensive of the game in the OT (especially the topic creator), but both these things can't be true at once.
Why the fuck can I not reload a save from the ingame menu? Like, what is the point in forcing me to quit to the main menu? I hate it.
For real, it's fantastic. This game really, REALLY sells you on the core group going from enemies to forced allies who don't really know each other to true, real friends/family. Like typically in these types of games you'll get that the main group likes each other as a whole but still has their own little mini cliques/bonds that are closer than the others.
In this game, all of them really feel like they care deeply for every other member of the team. You see genuine, warm and honest one-on-one interactions even with the characters in the main party you wouldn't expect to have them, like Lanz and Mio.
You're not gonna get a lot of the intended story enjoyment/intrigue out of this game unless you've played or are familiar with 1&2. It's just a fact. And it's not a bad thing. Don't really see how that can be denied.
Like the entire goal of the party right now is quite literally finding the real Melia and Nia lol
For real. It's refreshing to see a cutesy mascot-y character who doesn't have a high-pitched annoying squeaky voice. (Not sure how it was in the other Xeno games, I've yet to really play most of them.)
Yeah, that's one annoyance I have with the game.
I think you get an extra layer of enjoyment by being familiar with the originals, but in general I think fans tend to overestimate how much being able to follow the little nods and such impacts enjoyment for those who aren't. Same shit happens across so many franchises and I think it's a bad gatekeeping attitude that prevents most potential new fans from starting when you're presenting multiple huge games as barriers of entry. I also think they underestimate the appeal of starting later and going back to the earlier games which is a unique experience in its own right
Wanted to finish Chapter 3 before I go into some thoughts, because I was initially a little worried about the game with how linear it is as the beginning, but those worries have mostly faded.
While I still feel like the environments are little disappointing (they just feel kind of empty and less detailed), it's still fun seeing the fusion of 1 and 2. And I love how you just bump into all the Hero's you can recruit throughout the world. Don't think I'll be doing everything my first playthrough though.
Battle system is.....a little overwhelming. And I feel like I still don't grasp everything, but it's fun! Bosses have a ton of health though and take a while. Not a big fan of that.
I've seen a lot of people not impressed by the music, but I can see what the game is doing with it. It's more cinematic/subdued, but when the music hits, it really hits. Reminds of Xenosaga Episode I, and that's my favorite Xenosaga OST. People had similar complaints about that.
Now the story......there's not much of it yet, but it's a Xeno story lol. The characters and what they're building up to so far seems great. I know a lot of people are down on the Consul's, and I'm not sure what to feel about them yet, but I'm enjoying their "theatric" presentation. Especially the beginning of Chapter 4.
Unsurprisingly, and predictably, the Consuls seem to be
I've seen a few out of context screenshots, so I am excited to see where the story goes.
While I still feel like the environments are little disappointing (they just feel kind of empty and less detailed), it's still fun seeing the fusion of 1 and 2. And I love how you just bump into all the Hero's you can recruit throughout the world. Don't think I'll be doing everything my first playthrough though.
Battle system is.....a little overwhelming. And I feel like I still don't grasp everything, but it's fun! Bosses have a ton of health though and take a while. Not a big fan of that.
I've seen a lot of people not impressed by the music, but I can see what the game is doing with it. It's more cinematic/subdued, but when the music hits, it really hits. Reminds of Xenosaga Episode I, and that's my favorite Xenosaga OST. People had similar complaints about that.
Now the story......there's not much of it yet, but it's a Xeno story lol. The characters and what they're building up to so far seems great. I know a lot of people are down on the Consul's, and I'm not sure what to feel about them yet, but I'm enjoying their "theatric" presentation. Especially the beginning of Chapter 4.
Unsurprisingly, and predictably, the Consuls seem to be
Testaments/Umbra's with Consul J's reveal. Now just to wait and find out who the one behind the scenes is giving them that power.
But what are N (not Noah) and M (not Mio)? Are they a Pyra/Mythra, Grahf, Id, Myahh/Elly, or URTV situation?
Since Eunie seems to be reincarnated, maybe the Myahh/Elly path?
And I've tried to see where exactly Aionios is floating. It looks like there's land/water in the distance that drops off into a chasm surrounding it. Like it's floating above the ocean, but the water below has been pushed away. So I'm curious what happens since it also seems to be Earth going by the moon.
Have the people finally found Lost Jerusalem or are they still stuck on a whole different planet?
But what are N (not Noah) and M (not Mio)? Are they a Pyra/Mythra, Grahf, Id, Myahh/Elly, or URTV situation?
Since Eunie seems to be reincarnated, maybe the Myahh/Elly path?
And I've tried to see where exactly Aionios is floating. It looks like there's land/water in the distance that drops off into a chasm surrounding it. Like it's floating above the ocean, but the water below has been pushed away. So I'm curious what happens since it also seems to be Earth going by the moon.
Have the people finally found Lost Jerusalem or are they still stuck on a whole different planet?
I've seen a few out of context screenshots, so I am excited to see where the story goes.
Got to the end of chapter 5 and just got done with the whole beginning sequence of chapter 6 including the fights, what a ride so far. I legit was ugly crying throughout. I wanted the game to fuck me up and it delivered
I'm still in the middle of Chapter 5 and I've been doing all sidequests I can find and while I enjoy them, I am now considering finishing the game first and coming back later to do the side quests of the last chapters as I'm losing touch with the main story. Does the level down feature unlocks right as you finish main story and lets you go do the side quest at any level you want? Do you still get CP?
Agreed with this whole post, really loved what they did with the character and the payoff is chef's kiss
now I wouldn't agree it's the *entire* point of the game. Newcomers could still be enthralled by the brand new characters and their arcs, as well as the setting and themes.
It's the background lore and history, and lots of the mysteries of the story, which are pretty big parts of JRPGS to be fair, where knowledge of 1 & 2 is really important. So I agree with you in that aspect.
All I will say is, I'm not done with the game so maybe they'll explain it but this game starts with showing you people who have wings on their heads, or made seemingly out of machines. Or have cat ears, and/or have crystals in their chests, sometimes with different colors, or have blue/rocky skin. And the game hasent explained any of this. I feel like a huge element of this game is is probably getting lost.
Because knowing what these races looked like In the past adds another level of dystopian to the current situation, it feels like entire cultures have been lost
Because knowing what these races looked like In the past adds another level of dystopian to the current situation, it feels like entire cultures have been lost
I have a very important question about clothing in Chapter 6.
PLEASE DO NOT READ IF NOT IN CHAPTER 6 OR LATER
PLEASE DO NOT READ IF NOT IN CHAPTER 6 OR LATER
Is there a point soon where Mio's clothing becomes available again? She's stuck in Moebius form and the menu entry has a permanent dot that I cannot get rid of, and it's triggering me to no end D:
I'm at the very beginning doing side story before progressing so my question may be dumb but it's haunting me.
I'm at the very beginning doing side story before progressing so my question may be dumb but it's haunting me.
Just advance the story a bit and she goes back to normal clothes.
Also, you get another choice about her hair. It's not permanent, you can adjust in the options menu later, so don't worry about it too hard.
Also, you get another choice about her hair. It's not permanent, you can adjust in the options menu later, so don't worry about it too hard.
Definitely agree with this.
Monolith Soft has always had a habit of setting up boss fights in such a way that you come about 75% of the way through depleting their health meter, then the fight ends and the resulting cutscene shows them either kicking your ass or escaping. The generic, disposable nature of the Consuls helps avoid that frustrating feeling, which plagues a lot of their games.
Just got to Chapter 5 and made it to you-know-where, and I have some observations to share:
This part isn't a spoiler and maybe it's been said elsewhere in this thread, but Xenogears was originally called Project Noah.
One of the Oroboros founders looks to clearly be Shulk, but the other statue that someone says has Noah's chin looks similar to Fei from Xenogears (and Abel from Xenosaga). I would write it off as pure coincidence but the fact that this statue is punching his hand in a martial-arts way is no coincidence.
This part isn't a spoiler and maybe it's been said elsewhere in this thread, but Xenogears was originally called Project Noah.
yeah it will go back when you start progressing the story again