Horde mode better have backfill for people who quit after finishing a bounty. Annoying as fuck being 20-30 rounds deep then someone leaves, sometimes more and then all that time is mostly wasted.
Seemed like such a odd thing for them to never fix.
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Xbox Game Studios |OT5| The Cult of Phil in the Age of Booty: A Case Study
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Horde mode better have backfill for people who quit after finishing a bounty. Annoying as fuck being 20-30 rounds deep then someone leaves, sometimes more and then all that time is mostly wasted.
Seemed like such a odd thing for them to never fix.
I intend to buy it, I still buy many games, even exclusives. Because so far many of the games on GP I already have. However they've added so many now, I probably should just get it, haha.
I don't get this Gears angst. You know you will get it. They have no reason to show it and settle your nerves. Its like there is a 15% chance it gets screwed up, yet you are stuck on that. Let them show the other options and modes.
I can't wait. Man MS is just killing it in all facets.
I can't wait. Man MS is just killing it in all facets.
I mean, I have no interest in getting it. it's strange that there seems to be no effort to really convince me. When you show modes off rather than core gameplay it seems like you're just talking to the hardcore
This dude needs to stfu until he shows some campaign gameplay. what a huge fuck up at E3.
So, if Shannon Loftis was moved to manage Age of Empires team, does she have any experience with that? I checked her LinkedIn profile and mostly worked with racing games and some shitty projects for Good Science Studio. Good managing skill is completely alright, but she also have to understand goods of developers who want to make much better and great projects, without any financial cuts.
Also, if we look at what they published, there's not so much games.
• 2020 | Ori and the Will of the Wisps | more than 2,5 years between announcement and releasing.
• 2019 | Crackdown 3 | the giant joke of this generation, greenlighted before Phil was head of Xbox, announced in 2014.
• 2018 | State of Decay 2
• 2017 | Super Lucky's Tale | which is not even Microsoft's IP, will be released on Switch now as a re-imagined game with lot of new thing and no plans to Xbox release too.
Not so much. I'm not counting Age of Empires IV, because now when they have dedicated first-party studio, I think they'll be overseeing next game (like Rare with Battletoads and The Coalition with Gears Tactics).
I hope they'll have lot of agreements and partnerships for Project Scarlett. For launch and further support. There's some potential which was wasted in some way. Two games per year from XGS Publishing (next to first-party) would be great.
They really need push harder that division/studio for next generation and make it much more transparent. We just know how is the head of that and Joseph Staten was working on ReCore or Crackdown 3. Nothing more, I guess.
Also, if we look at what they published, there's not so much games.
• 2020 | Ori and the Will of the Wisps | more than 2,5 years between announcement and releasing.
• 2019 | Crackdown 3 | the giant joke of this generation, greenlighted before Phil was head of Xbox, announced in 2014.
• 2018 | State of Decay 2
• 2017 | Super Lucky's Tale | which is not even Microsoft's IP, will be released on Switch now as a re-imagined game with lot of new thing and no plans to Xbox release too.
Not so much. I'm not counting Age of Empires IV, because now when they have dedicated first-party studio, I think they'll be overseeing next game (like Rare with Battletoads and The Coalition with Gears Tactics).
I hope they'll have lot of agreements and partnerships for Project Scarlett. For launch and further support. There's some potential which was wasted in some way. Two games per year from XGS Publishing (next to first-party) would be great.
But in our eyes, as a gamers, campaign was highly anticipated. After long year of waiting. Very strange decision.
I think Gears 5 will be great, I have faith in Rod I thought 4 was a good game.
But that was an awful MS E3.
And the gears 5 trailer was brutal.
Even more with how the talk about how Gears 5 is gonna switch up the SP this time arround.
I wouldn't go that far. Let's not get super YouTube clickbait in this thread. It was an average e3 in the last year before the next generation of systems.
Yeah exactly. If you are talking how you are chancing SP why not show it and prove it? If they wanted show multiplayer on stage, why not let people get hands on campaing on booths. It seriously raises some questions.
so he needs to remain silent until september?
AeO 4 is a weird situation, because MSG worked as the connection between the know how of relic and the new forming team, so it's pretty ambiguos to count. But people who knows her work better than us trusted her, so I won't jump on conclusion.
So people interested in mp are not real gamers?
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Simply campaign, once you finish, there's nothing valuable, especially in this case with the pseudo ow bullshit, so in their eyes the mp is more important in the long term.
They really want Escape to be next big thing in gears. The amount of effort they poured into it is surprising
lol. What a moronic plan. Well, I give him credit for sticking to his plan I guess. No matter how bad it is.
Their E3 basically killed momentum for Gears 5. Literally all they had to do was show 5 minutes from the campaign.
I didn't divide them as a real gamers or not, as you said ;)
I just meant, I was seeing much more interest from people in Gears 5's campaign than multiplayer. Nothing else :)
Guys.
The reason everyone is disappointed in Gears at E3 is because we all know Gears is great when it comes to the multi side. The SP side is what needs a refresh and he cockblocked everyone by showing nother MP mode and the worst CG/music to boot.
Compare Gears 1 CG to this abomination. Cliffy B needs to come back and show Rod how to do proper marketing.
The reason everyone is disappointed in Gears at E3 is because we all know Gears is great when it comes to the multi side. The SP side is what needs a refresh and he cockblocked everyone by showing nother MP mode and the worst CG/music to boot.
Compare Gears 1 CG to this abomination. Cliffy B needs to come back and show Rod how to do proper marketing.
Because he did such a great job marketing LawBreakers and Radical Heights....
Music to my ears. However if Obsidian decides it wants to do a Alpha Protocol spiritual successor I'd find some love for them.
So the Arcade in versus is gonna be more catered to the mass. Interested to see it.
Interesting he talks about making Gears more modern with UI changes, gunplay (removing bloom and adding more recoil), sound etc. They removed alot of the quick banter like if you missed a active reload.
Interesting he talks about making Gears more modern with UI changes, gunplay (removing bloom and adding more recoil), sound etc. They removed alot of the quick banter like if you missed a active reload.
I've been fiddling around with Xbox Game Pass PC for a few days. A few game installation issues aside, I'm actually loving the service! I've been trying out a bunch of indie games that I otherwise wouldn't have bought and played. Considering the regular price and upcoming releases like Gears 5 and The Outer Worlds, I think I'm actually gonna stay subscribed in perpetuity.
It's also really exciting to think what first party can do, because I imagine that there are many many others like me on PC who would probably stay subscribed because why not? And Gears 5 launches on the service, and Halo will launch on the service. That's crazy to me. I haven't kept up with player numbers for MS's first party games in a while, but I think game pass on PC would give these titles big launches now that I think about it, especially if there's a lot of hype surrounding them. And Age of Empires 4 and Flight Sim will launch on the service!
I can't believe I'm this excited about Microsoft first party and their PC efforts. Hell has probably frozen over.
It's also really exciting to think what first party can do, because I imagine that there are many many others like me on PC who would probably stay subscribed because why not? And Gears 5 launches on the service, and Halo will launch on the service. That's crazy to me. I haven't kept up with player numbers for MS's first party games in a while, but I think game pass on PC would give these titles big launches now that I think about it, especially if there's a lot of hype surrounding them. And Age of Empires 4 and Flight Sim will launch on the service!
I can't believe I'm this excited about Microsoft first party and their PC efforts. Hell has probably frozen over.
Oh god, nope… Let him go on retire.
Good hope that campaign will be very good and the game itself will be deserved for 90+/100.
Mad World was indeed great marketing, but in the end it left a sour taste, because the actual game was nothing like that. At least this new teaser gives us plenty of hints about what the story of Gears 5 and Kait's personal journey are going to be like. I really loved it.
That said, bring on some campaign gameplay.
depend on what you search, I guess that it will appeal several players and will let a sour taste to several fans
I hope Arcade doesn't get too ridiculous. I'd consider myself well above average at Gears but ranked in Gears 4 was way too sweaty to the point where it wasn't enjoyable anymore and I'd hate to be stuck choosing between that and an Arcade mode with crazy stuff like ults and what not.
This is where I'm at. Just want a normal Annex/KOTH type mode without any changes.
Unfortunately Gears relies too heavily on good gameplay for it to win the hearts of critics or award panels.
The thing is this forum is very much more interested in the SP side of things. Same goes for halo. Frankly I don't give a fuck about the Sp as long as the game has good mechanics and the MP plays well
On E3, they decided to show off a new coop mode that frankly will be more enticing to the general public than the so coverage
Ah yeah. Kinda crazy he has been that for a year already if i look at his Linkedin.
Gears 4 sales numbers and too many other big games releasing. And sales professionals agree with me. Gamepass also doesn't count in NPD
I really don't think she did. During her period there were almost no new games announced, except the sequels of Ori and Forza Horizon, two hugely successful games, despite her boasting about having 300 pitches per year.
And the games Phil had signed before he left the job to Shannon were mostly mismanaged.
I really don't think money was that much of an issue, we have reports of some games spending a lot, it is really management like Recore having so many troubles with the engine, whatever happened in Crackdown (and you can tell they spent a lot on that game).
I mean, I don't buyt that a division that reportedly threw away $70m on Fable Legends and another $70m on Scalebound was hurting for money so badly that they couldn't at least greenlit some indie games to publish.
The place for the division now is even more weirder... Indies are being handled by id@xbox, securing some exclusiveness and/or gamepass deals. With new studios that will be able to take AAA one would think Ms will develop their next big games internally what MSGP can even bring to the table?
Only thing I can think off is trying to find developers for MS IPs, with the intention of a future purchase or Ms creating another internal team to focus on said IP, perhaps focusing in regions where Ms does not yet have much presence or any studios (Asia/Japan)
No confidence in the future of Gears... LOL. Gears 4 was great and everything we've seen from Gears 5 has looked great.
Not really.
It seems a lot of what they're doing is aiming to bring in new people to the franchise, and that's great to see.
I mean they need to. Gears MP is hard thing to get into as a new player.
And I think that's a big reason they chose to highlight Escape at E3.
Funny thing is... They say they had to choose between showing campaign and MP. But in reality, they could (and should) have shown both.
Back in 2015, Halo opened the E3 show with a small campaign trailer directly followed by a campaign gameplay demo. Then Josh Holmes came in and unveiled the totally new mode Warzone through a trailer. Nothing felt long, the pacing for the Halo part was perfectly good, and the announcement of a new mode after showing something "normal" and expected (campaign gameplay) felt so much more interesting and exciting. A "but wait, we have more"-type of moment.
Back in 2015, Halo opened the E3 show with a small campaign trailer directly followed by a campaign gameplay demo. Then Josh Holmes came in and unveiled the totally new mode Warzone through a trailer. Nothing felt long, the pacing for the Halo part was perfectly good, and the announcement of a new mode after showing something "normal" and expected (campaign gameplay) felt so much more interesting and exciting. A "but wait, we have more"-type of moment.
Seriously. Some of the takes in here are straight out of a day time soap opera
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