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If you're not playing Killer Queen Black on Game Pass... you should be playing Killer Queen Black.
Game absolutely rules.
need to try it, just so much great games to get through on gamepass:)
We wouldnt have any content in this thread if people didnt post their hopes/dreams/predictions on the upcoming slate of Xbox games.
It was more for every games not just box that's why I was not sure and cause a stir
As long as it's in good faith I don't think anyone will care
I think this definitly points to a partnership with KojiPro, probably for their next project.
Please let me know if I'm missing something or am reaching on something. I would be happy to update it
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I have to believe that Sony locked Kojima down for multiple games.
The dream of Kojima's next game on Gamepass is just too beautiful to accept as a possible reality.
I think Wolf 3 comes out this year.
I think that's your big 4 for the year:
Wolf 3 - August
Horizon 5 - September
Infinite - October
Starfield - November
Starfield is going to be coming out before Infinite, the 20th anniversary for Halo is in November.
You're prob right about wolf 3 I'll remove it. Idk if Horizon makes it this year . Starfield could be delayed due to covid that's why I put (if it's delayed)
I still doubt Starfield is this year. That was probably the plan pre-COVID. I honestly don't think they need Starfield and Halo this year. Starfield next May or something would be incredible.
Nate Drake just said the plan as of a couple of months ago was a 2021 release. If you're still planning that 9+ months after COVID started then you kind of understand how WFH has impacted your development.
That's fair - I do think devs have been able to adjust but it's pretty clear it is going to impact a lot of games this year. Haven't seen the comments/not sure who Nate Drake is but definitely interesting.
So Starfield is, what, September? Yeah, I think it would be really unwise to expect that. But you do you.
Nate is an insider here in ERA that's been right about a number of things.
It'll be October I bet.
No way they send Halo and Starfield out a month apart and within the same fiscal quarter.
All the rumours and leaks said it was always for 2021 I just think covid delays it. Even if it was still slated for 2021 3 months ago a lot can change in those 3 months
I've said it before but I seriously don't think they're going to drop Horizon 5 on us out of no where, when they've shown Motorsport first. Horizon 4 coming to Steam read to me like they intend to support that game for a while longer.
Why on earth not? Sony released Last of Us and Ghost within a month.
This is my opinion also, but if that's the case horizon won't be out until 2023 which would be a 4 year dev cycle
Notably not the same fiscal quarter, though. (And I also don't think Sony would describe those back-to-back releases as ideal; they originally wanted TLOU2 to drop in February.)
You're all welcome to expect whatever but I think expecting Starfield to release before Halo is foolish.
Sony did it for Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima. Phil Spencer has already said this holiday is much more important than launch, as supply catches up with demand. It makes sense to me that they'd want to have a really killer line-up.
Edit: beaten to it
And Halo was supposed to release in 2020, not exactly ideal for MS either!
You're putting way too much stock in the idea that companies artificially space games to fill some quarterly quota. I guess you're surprised Sony released DS and Miles at launch when they should have held one for Q1?
As Babu93 said, Xbox knows this holiday is important and I'm pretty sure they will come with more than Halo.
that's true, disney+ released the mandalorian and wandavision on back to back months
March is probably the most pathetic Games with Gold in a while. Lol
Just get rid of Gold already, the value proposition is awful.
Just get rid of Gold already, the value proposition is awful.
No, not within the same quarter.
And even then that was a special case that doesn't apply here. TLOU2 and GoT were set for release in the early stages of covid. TLOU2 was briefly delayed indefinitely and its release date was pushed closer to GoT than originally intended. Sony was scrambling. It seems very unlikely to me that, over a year on, Microsoft would find themselves in the same position.
Companies run on quarters. It's not a coincidence that Capcom is releasing Monster Hunter Rise and RE Village six weeks apart but those six weeks happen to be in different quarters. It's not a coincidence that Nintendo is releasing Mario Golf and Zelda Skyward Sword HD three weeks apart but those three weeks happen to be in different quarters. Companies absolutely do pace out their releases to try to ensure consistently positive results.
I really didn't expect "Microsoft probably won't send out Starfield, one of their two biggest games of the last five years and a game we've barely even seen, a month ahead of their other biggest game of the last five years, of which we've seen a great deal, and also in the same month Bethesda is also already launching a different game" to be so controversial.
I'm sure they will come with more than Halo too. But I'm not expecting both Halo and Starfield, and if by some chance they both are coming this year I'm certainly not expecting Starfield first.
Last two months were pretty good I thought 🤷 But yeah I agree, wish they'd just drop it or change how it works so it has a point.
Of course companies run on quarters, but they don't artificially kneecap their overall success just to make a nice number. If Xbox has a shitty holiday so that Starfield can give them a Q1 bump that's a failure.
Anyways what's weirdest to me is how strongly you're arguing about Starfield not coming before Halo. Seems obvious Halo is coming Nov, so when would you expect Starfield to come if it's a holiday game? December? October or earlier in Nov seems a lot more likely.
I don't actually think Starfield is a holiday game. And if it is, I suspect Halo wouldn't be — that it would be coming earlier than we suspect, like September. That said, I (again) find this scenario much less likely than Halo being the November game and Starfield being 2022.
I'm sure at one point Starfield was planned for Q4 2021, but I have trouble believing that covid had no effect.
I don't think Microsoft sees Starfield as required for the Xbox to not have "a shitty holiday." And if anything, I think the reaction to Cyberpunk is likely to make them a little gun-shy about releasing something with the usual BGS levels of polish at launch.
Well, I think Starfield probably already had its delay baked in. If we are seeing screens from 2018 builds, then 2020 could well have been the original target.
My argument about holiday is that A. Xbox folks keep mentioning the game, I think it would be odd if it's not coming soonish and B. They know they have a strategic window to change perception and bend the sales curve early in the gen. We have already had it confirmed that on the Sony side GT won't make 2021 and semi-confirmed that God of War won't. If Xbox has a readily available $299 system on the shelf with Starfield, Halo, and a Forza title, they could be looking at an inflection point for their perception and success in the market this gen.
And incidentally that's the difference between MS and the examples you gave of Capcom and Nintendo - those are literally software companies whose value and overall results are driven by single game releases. Gaming at MS is still a rounding error that doesn't move the stock price. They have every reason to favor capitalizing on a significant opportunity over polishing up quarter-over-quarter Xbox division numbers. I think Starfield at holiday would hit perfectly - a big exclusive Bethesda RPG, "from the makers of Skyrim" , etc.
Of course I could be totally wrong but that would seem much more enticing to me than dropping it in Feb or whatever.
I think they'll drop Starfield whenever it's ready, but I think September's probably the latest month in the year you want a new IP releasing, really, particularly a first person one.
The lineup would be very strong for the holidays indeed. I agree with your post.
Those are the possibilities:
- Xbox twitter wants to vote for Fable and Avowed. In this case it wouldn't be a teaser imo
- Xbox wants to vote for three or four of them. Then it's them just having fun or a teaser?
I find you guys put too much weight on Game Pass. My opinion is that GP (& cloud gaming) is just more or less a bait to attract Satya Nadella and the board investing into Xbox division.
So you are saying Nadella is dumb, because he gets easily fooled? Nadella is a smart guy and Gamepass is the strategy of Microsoft for Xbox.
The way I see it is, Microsoft is basically mounting a comeback campaign for Halo this year. I know some people in this thread might not think Halo needs a comeback, but it does. Microsoft wants Halo to be more relevant than it has been in a decade. They have a hugely expensive new game and a big new Showtime series. They want Halo Infinite to be the gaming event of the year. They're not going to want to step on its moment with a title that honestly would overshadow it, despite being a new IP.
Think of it this way. Is Microsoft going to release a limited edition Series X to mark the launch of Halo Infinite? Absolutely, positively, and they'll probably release special controllers too. Is Microsoft going to do the same for Starfield? Of course. Now, does it seem likely that Microsoft going to release two limited edition hardware designs within a month of each other?
Again, you're all welcome to expect whatever you want, but I think expecting Starfield (which we've barely even seen, officially!) in October and Halo in November is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Think of it this way. Is Microsoft going to release a limited edition Series X to mark the launch of Halo Infinite? Absolutely, positively, and they'll probably release special controllers too. Is Microsoft going to do the same for Starfield? Of course. Now, does it seem likely that Microsoft going to release two limited edition hardware designs within a month of each other?
Again, you're all welcome to expect whatever you want, but I think expecting Starfield (which we've barely even seen, officially!) in October and Halo in November is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
People 'round these here parts do think of Game Pass in pretty magical terms, but I don't think that second sentence is correct. No one got tricked.
How isn't it? Gamepass is literally their future for getting into new markets and why they are buying all of these studios and publishers
Halo and Starfield don't exactly operate in the same sectors. Not to mention Halo's multiplayer is free to play so it's going to be massive regardless of whatever else comes out. It's the same thing for Starfield too, unless the game somehow turns out to be bad it's going to do well regardless of what releases around it.
Also, in terms of special editions consoles, I don't expect one for either game. They can't even get enough normal consoles out the door right now, let alone a special edition.
Also, in terms of special editions consoles, I don't expect one for either game. They can't even get enough normal consoles out the door right now, let alone a special edition.
I hear you, but Microsoft shouldn't make the same mistake twice and rely only on 343 Halo. There need to be more heavy hitters, especially when you want to grow Gamepass and get some consoles sold. One could argue if Halo doesn't beat Starfield as the big exclusive this holiday, then Halo isn't as big as before anyways.
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