Will you upgrade your SSD on your PS5 and/or Xbox Series S/X sooner rather than later to avoid wear on the internal drive?
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Something that should be noted about SSD usage wear behavior. If you are above ~80% of space used you are wearing it down even faster, so always leave some room free.
How about the option for "I don't plan to as I don't care about internal wear?". This has never been a concern over in PC land.
The fuck? My PC ssd"s have been going strong for years as have my mechanical drives. This is a non issue
I don't even know what that means lol.
If I have an issue I'll get them to fix it, or I'll trade in my launch console for the inevitable pro revision
If I have an issue I'll get them to fix it, or I'll trade in my launch console for the inevitable pro revision
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PC's aren't dumping out RAM state to the SSD frequently either though.
Edit: Incorrect math based off someone else's post.
That option in the poll is there under "I don't plan to as I'll manage the internal drive and/or use cold storage as being good enough"
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Missing an option : "No, because it's not an issue". Your poll makes it seem like the best case if you can use cold storage and closely manage it. My oldest SSD is a 12 year old Intel X-25 and it's still at more than 90% lifespan despite being filled up from the start and having spent thousands of hours in WoW.
Stop putting fear in people heads for nonexistent problems. We're not talking about a super busy SQL server that writes terabytes per day, the game writes once and mostly randoms reads with a patch every few weeks.
Stop putting fear in people heads for nonexistent problems. We're not talking about a super busy SQL server that writes terabytes per day, the game writes once and mostly randoms reads with a patch every few weeks.
And SSDs controllers have only gotten better at managing wear over time. My old SATA SSD is a dinosaur compared to like... the new 980 Pro.
Internal wear seriously isn't an issue. With this and the Series X heat stuff are people just looking for things to be concerned about?
Anyways, I'll upgrade the storage soon as there's a good deal on something compatible. Glad the PS5 takes standard NVMe PCIe 4.0 drives too. Samsung look promising but crossing fingers that Sabrent has something decently priced.
Anyways, I'll upgrade the storage soon as there's a good deal on something compatible. Glad the PS5 takes standard NVMe PCIe 4.0 drives too. Samsung look promising but crossing fingers that Sabrent has something decently priced.
You don't have to worry about SSD longevity unless you're writing something like 1tb+ (or the full capacity of the drive) every day. For games that you only write once per download, it's unlikely going to be an issue before other parts on the console start to fail. SSDs have way better longevity than the shitty hard drives in the last gen consoles.
SSDs generally have warranties that cover their entire capacity being written many hundreds of times, and of course they can last much longer than the warranty coverage. It's just not a likely concern for a games drive - it may come up for SSDs used to record 8k video every day or something like that.
If you really want to baby your SSD, reserve some space and don't fill it up to capacity. Keep 10% free. Not necessary though.
SSDs generally have warranties that cover their entire capacity being written many hundreds of times, and of course they can last much longer than the warranty coverage. It's just not a likely concern for a games drive - it may come up for SSDs used to record 8k video every day or something like that.
If you really want to baby your SSD, reserve some space and don't fill it up to capacity. Keep 10% free. Not necessary though.
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I feel like something like this is really unnecessary to be worrying out this early, before both systems have even launched.
Every time my PC goes to sleep Windows 10's hybrid sleep feature writes the contents of RAM to disk.
Those limited SSD writes sure have some people spooked, when the reality is that harddrives were absolutley awful in lifespan by comparison, and SSDs in PC usage last 10years+ for most use cases. Hell, the APU might expire before a decade has passed. The situation should be even better for consoles since the writes should be a bit less frequent than your average PC.
If Sony fuck up, there are potential firmware-level workarounds too (Eg, migrating the OS to expandable memory, etc). I wouldn't really worry about it tho.
If Sony fuck up, there are potential firmware-level workarounds too (Eg, migrating the OS to expandable memory, etc). I wouldn't really worry about it tho.
27gb is nothing.
Here's Samsung's SSD warranties:
SSD Product Warranty | Support | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Samsung ensures the best quality in all products and services beyond customer expectations. Warranty policy, conditions for Internal and Portable SSD.
www.samsung.com
At 27gb/day that would take 60 years to hit the warranty write life. The 5 year warranty would expire much sooner.
Also 27gb * 365 days = 9,855gb. Which is closer to 10TBW. I don't know where you got 100TBW a year.
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I miscalculated and was off by a 0. That's my bad. Someone else mentioned earlier at 33GB a day, it would take 5 years to get 600TBW and I quickly piggybacked off that difference. So I didn't carefully check the math at that point.27gb is nothing.
Here's Samsung's SSD warranties:
The 1TB 970 EVO (closest NVME drive on the list) has a warranty of 600TB written.SSD Product Warranty | Support | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Samsung ensures the best quality in all products and services beyond customer expectations. Warranty policy, conditions for Internal and Portable SSD.
At 27gb/day that would take 22 years to hit the warranty write life. The 5 year warranty would expire much sooner.
Also 27gb * 365 days = 9,855gb. Which is closer to 10TBW. I don't know where you got 100TBW a year.
I'm not concerned about wear and tear but I do want to get extra storage ASAP. 1TB is just simply not enough and the fact that we have even LESS storage space than the PS4 Pro/Xbox One X is horrible. The Series X SSD maybe a at launch or really close to launch purchase, cause I'm probably going to end up filling that tiny bit of 800 GBs within the first week.
I've worked on NOR flash wear leveling. If i alone could in a couple of weeks come up with something that would keep a flash chip alive for 25 years with write operations happening every second, i believe that Microsoft's and Sony's engineer's did it too, and way better.
to hit 5 years you'd have to be writing consistently ~300 GB a DAY lol. Nobody is doing that every single day.
