Why women criticise sexualised character designs | OT3 | "make her look more...corpulent, more stuffed where the eyes can't escape."
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My guy, I wouldn't post this. This is an ableist meme."more stuffed where the eyes can't escape."
It's not. You see, the child, who is still learning how to express himself, is doing it in a way that "normal", totally not-messed up people find amusing, at the expense of his neurodiver-
oh wait.
there's also the child abuse aspect of it but let's not rail on that poster too much lel
Yeah, I don't even know what movie it was from. it just popped into my head. I assumed it had something to do with demonic possession or something. So, that's my fault. I'll see if I can find something less bad.
It's from The Babadook, one of the best horror films imo. It's about a mother dealing with grief and her relationship with her son. It's a shame people use that part of the film as a weapon against neurodivergence.
WTF-tier thread title aside, there's a seemingly extremely high chance of being real FF7 Rebirth image leak of Tifa getting an alternate costume that's about to turn her into a coomer icon.
It's bad. Like, several degrees beyond 'CBU1 telling CBU3/FFXVI devs to hold their beer because they got unfortunate ideas from the Italian Senate incident' character assassination tier bad.
There's another picture with her wearing the costume at a different angle and pose that spoils a plot development, and both together are likely real because it'd be exceedingly difficult to fake both images (that and apparently Reddit is now manually nuking the images).
It's bad. Like, several degrees beyond 'CBU1 telling CBU3/FFXVI devs to hold their beer because they got unfortunate ideas from the Italian Senate incident' character assassination tier bad.
There's another picture with her wearing the costume at a different angle and pose that spoils a plot development, and both together are likely real because it'd be exceedingly difficult to fake both images (that and apparently Reddit is now manually nuking the images).
Lmao at that new title and persona 3 mod, they truly can't help themselves
TBF, it was obvious they were going to that place and thus seeing swimsuits... in themselves they're not bad imo, pretty normal stuff... now it will truly depends on camera angle and how long they will ogle on these or not
WTF-tier thread title aside, there's a seemingly extremely high chance of being real FF7 Rebirth image leak of Tifa getting an alternate costume that's about to turn her into a coomer icon.
It's bad. Like, several degrees beyond 'CBU1 telling CBU3/FFXVI devs to hold their beer because they got unfortunate ideas from the Italian Senate incident' character assassination tier bad.
There's another picture with her wearing the costume at a different angle and pose that spoils a plot development, and both together are likely real because it'd be exceedingly difficult to fake both images (that and apparently Reddit is now manually nuking the images).
TBF, it was obvious they were going to that place and thus seeing swimsuits... in themselves they're not bad imo, pretty normal stuff... now it will truly depends on camera angle and how long they will ogle on these or not
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Well, yes. It's just even more ridiculous when you notice Aerith standing in the background with a normal ass outfit, and then Tifa gets whatever the fuck that is.
FF7 already feels like a harem anime at points. I guess they're just leaning into that shit now.
I think it depends on the game...I ended up playing nier:A even though the character designs are questionable at best but I have def checked out of other games that had more prominent sexism like boss designs. Also, I'm playing P3R even though I'm super disappointed in Atlus not including FeMC.
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People are complicated 😔
So it's happening again....the new talk of the chuds is that the new Lara design "literally looks like a man" and was designed just for trans wokies to enjoy.
I've been playing Persona 3, and, ya know, it's kind of depressing the way women are depicted in the story. Suicide Squad received a ton of hate-mail over Harley Quinn's design being, like 40% less sexual, and the female devs were horribly abused. That same week, we see people gushing over Stellar Blade, with "gaming" journalists running pieces on the director's comments around it.
It just feels hopeless. The industry isn't getting better, and in some ways, it's getting worse. Young men are being fed highly sexualized, one dimensional portrayals of women, and being convinced that it's "right and good and worth defending".
No one in a position of actual influence - I.e. the developers creating these portrayals - are standing up and saying "hey, this isn't right". When will it get better? Will it get better?
It just feels hopeless. The industry isn't getting better, and in some ways, it's getting worse. Young men are being fed highly sexualized, one dimensional portrayals of women, and being convinced that it's "right and good and worth defending".
No one in a position of actual influence - I.e. the developers creating these portrayals - are standing up and saying "hey, this isn't right". When will it get better? Will it get better?
Wait. I didn't even know there was a new design.
*Searchs the web*
I'm honestly shocked. If anything I thought the design was even a little bit trying to please that crowd.
Bah, those are pretty ugly swimming suits. :/
Like with all the fluffs and ruffles, they seriously look like something a kid would wear (I didn't even have to search for frills, these just came up with a generic "kids swimsuit" search lol)
And that's probably why they designed it that way, tbh.
this is the problem that I have with that image, honestly - I have no problem with them wearing swimsuits in costa del sol, I don't think they're scandalous or something (the characters are 21-23 mostly, that's pretty normal), they're just ugly
like my first reaction to that shot was "this... is fake, right" just because I didn't believe someone would actually approve those designs lol
This design?
1) As an AMAB enby, I *WISH* I looked like that while presenting as a man.
2) I'm sure this is coming from the, "we can always tell" crowd too.
3) If chuds don't want this, and didn't want the Tomb/Rise/Shadow design (wasn't there backlash from them back then too because Lara was more covered and had breast reduction?) then what the fuck do they want?
4) Lara going back to the tank and short shorts is kind of disappointing since I really loved the trilogy's fashion sense.
This design?
1) As an AMAB enby, I *WISH* I looked like that while presenting as a man.
2) I'm sure this is coming from the, "we can always tell" crowd too.
3) If chuds don't want this, and didn't want the Tomb/Rise/Shadow design (wasn't there backlash from them back then too because Lara was more covered and had breast reduction?) then what the fuck do they want?
4) Lara going back to the tank and short shorts is kind of disappointing since I really loved the trilogy's fashion sense.
You're spot on with the 'what the fuck do they want'? Before this design reveal, you could literally post this exact image on r/KotakuInAction and get like 5k upvotes with the caption 'guys, I fixed Lara'.
Yeah, heinous.Bah, those are pretty ugly swimming suits. :/
Like with all the fluffs and ruffles, they seriously look like something a kid would wear (I didn't even have to search for frills, these just came up with a generic "kids swimsuit" search lol)
It's blowing my mind that that the Persona 3 mod text description is apparently original. I thought for sure it was a parody or movie quote or something.
Is this the context for the new title?This design?
1) As an AMAB enby, I *WISH* I looked like that while presenting as a man.
2) I'm sure this is coming from the, "we can always tell" crowd too.
3) If chuds don't want this, and didn't want the Tomb/Rise/Shadow design (wasn't there backlash from them back then too because Lara was more covered and had breast reduction?) then what the fuck do they want?
4) Lara going back to the tank and short shorts is kind of disappointing since I really loved the trilogy's fashion sense.
Tifa's swimsuit is ugly lol. Aerith's is…okay.
Here's hoping after the requisite beach scene, we can ditch them forever haha.
Also re the question about quitting games… very dependant. If it's something I want to play and I've bought it ($90CAD!), I just play it, and there will likely be a lot of sighing and eye rolling from me.
If I know off the bat I don't want to play it because of weird sexism, I won't even pick it up. But typically if I've bought it, I'll power through unless something like, wild crazy egregious that I hadn't heard of happens.
Here's hoping after the requisite beach scene, we can ditch them forever haha.
Also re the question about quitting games… very dependant. If it's something I want to play and I've bought it ($90CAD!), I just play it, and there will likely be a lot of sighing and eye rolling from me.
If I know off the bat I don't want to play it because of weird sexism, I won't even pick it up. But typically if I've bought it, I'll power through unless something like, wild crazy egregious that I hadn't heard of happens.
Apparently this is what they wantThis design?
1) As an AMAB enby, I *WISH* I looked like that while presenting as a man.
2) I'm sure this is coming from the, "we can always tell" crowd too.
3) If chuds don't want this, and didn't want the Tomb/Rise/Shadow design (wasn't there backlash from them back then too because Lara was more covered and had breast reduction?) then what the fuck do they want?
4) Lara going back to the tank and short shorts is kind of disappointing since I really loved the trilogy's fashion sense.
Apparently this is what they want
Lmao noooooo.
I'm shocked they didn't pump up her breasts in this (or did they? It's too early for my eyes).
Corpulent is a formal word that describes someone who is very overweight. You might describe Santa Claus as a corpulent man with a ruddy complexion and a jolly grin. There are certainly many other ways to describe an overweight person: obese, portly, and stout are only a few.Weebs: "THIS MINOR ISN'T SEXY ENOUGH!!"
Also yeah, that's fucking gross.
Thankfully, the mod was banned.Corpulent is a formal word that describes someone who is very overweight. You might describe Santa Claus as a corpulent man with a ruddy complexion and a jolly grin. There are certainly many other ways to describe an overweight person: obese, portly, and stout are only a few.
Also yeah, that's fucking gross.
Probably not. I'm into anime/manga and it's like nothing really changes except from time to time we get a good series like Dungeon Meshi where there's zero fanservice or forced het relationships between characters. It's a challenge since gaming is usually one of the few more affordable hobbies of mine and I'm like ehh so it goes. Also, it helps that I rarely play mainstream games and mostly just have fun with smaller indie cat games.
As well as them saying her jawline is a man's, and that her eyebrows are too close to her eyes.
Least horny Stellar Blade fan:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
Least horny Stellar Blade fan:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
I frequent /r/subredditdrama and love how they highlight things to use as user flairs. In that tradition, these are some choice bits:
"As a heterosexual gamer we DESERVE this"
"The literal power of horny is THAT strong"
Brain rot is fucking real.
I want the followup where the friend kicks them out on their ass for walking in on them cooming on the dualsense. Then he whines about losing his friend to the 'wokies'.
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I've definitely screened out some games in recent years that I might have played a decade ago. A few pixel-art metroidvanias where it looks cool until you see the artbook or advertisements with the huge boobs and schoolgirl outfits. Probably filtered out entire genres on Steam by now as well.
Edit: That said, I'm still weak. If someone produces a game in some of my favorite genres like 4x games or some x-com stuff, and it had amazing gameplay, but was also filled with T&A, I'd probably buy it anyway.
Good. Gaming is so fucking weird. I'm a guy and I play video games, but holy shit is it hard for me to identify with that crowd.
Fucking christ. Stellar Blade for me is a game I'll buy if the game play is good and they just drop some of the non shitty clothes off the jump. I kind of try not to "weaponize" games, but god damn the stuff here is just sad.Least horny Stellar Blade fan:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
This design?
4) Lara going back to the tank and short shorts is kind of disappointing since I really loved the trilogy's fashion sense.
I might have more fondness for the classic Lara design and character than some others in this thread might do depending on age. The pop-culture atmosphere surrounding her was phenomenal, and outside of the lad's-mag posters really fit in with the 'Girl Power' movement happening at the latter part of the 90s.
My sister would pretend to be her, I was obsessed with the archaeology side as I was well into Ancient Egypt at the time, my video-game hating mother even thought she was cool and tried to play the original game which which was unheard of before and ever since.
Her big tits and skimpy shorts were obviously there and part of the hetero-male appeal, but that design was still iconic for us no matter how impractical (and my fiancée dresses like that to this day 😅), and Lara was a problematic 90s heroine for us to idolise who wasn't just the demure sidekick.
Seeing that dismissed as purely bad by others here just rankles me somewhat. She meant so much to a lot of us, regardless of if she was also masturbatory material for blokes. Because she was more than just a sex object to me, my sister, to a generation of younger women in gaming at the time and whilst it's obviously unintentional, that's what these takes feel like they reduce the entire idea and ethos to.
Struggling to believe that guy isn't posting ironically. It's not so much the objectification/dolling up treatment, it's how stupidly boring and basic it is. "make her look like a bud light wall ad in a liquor store"Apparently this is what they want
Tribalism and identification with a group is a powerful thing. People donate to mega rich streamers, similar energy.Least horny Stellar Blade fan:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
Geez they are spending 50 hours a week on rule34, give the guy a break.
Wow, that's one of the most pathetic things I've ever read.Least horny Stellar Blade fan:
To quote the top comment of this screenshot's respective r/gamingcirclejerk post:
Yeah I realized I was too lenient right after I posted.
OOF!
I just pick my battles. Like you said, if you object to everything on principle alone there isn't much left. It's sad that's the way of things, but you'd go crazy otherwise. There are also absolutely instances where it doesn't bother me much or it's way easier to look past for various reasons. Quiet sticks out like a sore thumb, but Bayonetta doesn't. Both are blatantly objectifying designs, but one fits more into the setting and has a personality based around it while the other has only the flimsiest of justifications (and that's not to say all of the justification for the other is fine, but it feels more cohesive as a result).been wanting to ask this for a long time, how often do you guys (or gals I guess) actually drop a game or not play it out right because of some sexist design or imagery? I ask because I run into that stuff so often, usually in places I wouldn't expect, and every time I roll my eyes, think "come on man..." and usually move on, at least if I'm liking the game, and it got me thinking, if one was to drop or not play games where this shit pops up...
...you wouldn't be able to play many games >_>
Which is obviously a sad state of affairs, but it is what it is. Case in point, I'm playing this top down roguelike called Devil Slayer Raksasi, picked it up on sale on Switch not knowing anything about it except it looked alright in pictures and had good reviews on steam, and all was going well since this is what the game looks like:
but then you run into the character screens and it's stuff like this
and as usual, I rolled my eyes, went "come on man..." (especially in the death screens where they use the ripped clothes anime trope) and carried on, because in the actual game, you would never know this, since it's completely top down (not even isometric). This is of course just one example, I mean, you can't play a JRPG for example (for the most part, I'm sure there's exceptions) without running into some eye rolling bullshit.
So how do y'all handle it?
Plus, it's not like there aren't some designs that still appeal to me regardless of the objectification. Women are just as capable of enjoying those, too. The real problem is not that these designs exist, it's that there is an imbalance in the industry (and media as a whole) over how women get depicted versus men. If it was more equalized there'd be a lot less pushback.