I don't know why this made me think of it, but has anyone brought up the later Call of Duty games, yet? I've been playing black ops 4 and the female specialists in multiplayer are taken every bit as seriously as their male counterparts, including alternate costumes. Plus they just added Outrider and she has a bow with explosive-tipped arrows, which is a 👍👍👍 from me.Ultimately this is the issue. Men get cool armor, women get bikinis. And yes, in-game we're at war, but for some reason, equally protective. What makes it even more stark is when some women are dressed practically and others are dressed in ridiculous clothes, and in some cases it gets even worse when it becomes part of the discourse (XC2, ironically enough, is actually a good example of this).
A few things:
1) Nobody wears heels to a gun fight. Or any fight.
2) Armor is made to protect, which means if you're wearing armor, it COVERS YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING BODY. Otherwise, you're not wearing armor. You're wearing clothes. Or rags. Or bikinis. The last two are probably the same to most character designers.
3) No armor is skin-tight. It does not exist, stop it with that shit, people gotta breathe.
4) People have spines. They cannot bend that way.
5) I shouldn't have to tell you this, because you should understand basic cinematography, but stop with the slow-motion and panning shots of every woman's tits and ass. It's creepy.
The more I see the likes of Bayonetta and Nier Automata mentioned in posts like that the less I like those design choices.
And I was not a big fan of bayonetta to begin with =P
I know For Honor's an old example, but, hey, it's nice to just admire the good things in life every once in awhile, y'know?
Admittedly, at this point I'm pretty much just playing the game to admire the pretty visuals. Which, I think, goes a long way to showing that getting people invested in your characters doesn't require you to blatantly pander to the audience in an insultingly base fashion. Just a thought.
Anybody fans of Claymore in here? Like no woman gets sexualized in that. Same can mostly be said about Black Lagoon as well. Revy, Roberta and Balalaika are all about that female empowerment...even if they're all massively fucked up.
I watched some of the Claymore anime. I thought it was pretty good but there were some things that still stood out for me. The tight body suit they all wore was one but I also seem to recall
I could be wrong, it has been a long time since I've watched anime and Claymore was even further back.there was something about men being stronger so they only now made women into their warriors because they were on weaker and easier to control or something. I seem to recall one of the antagonists was also a former male warrior who turned corrupted.
I watched some of the Claymore anime. I thought it was pretty good but there were some things that still stood out for me. The tight body suit they all wore was one but I also seem to recall
I could be wrong, it has been a long time since I've watched anime and Claymore was even further back.there was something about men being stronger so they only now made women into their warriors because they were on weaker and easier to control or something. I seem to recall one of the antagonists was also a former male warrior who turned corrupted.
Zanki Zero: Last Beginning comes to the PlayStation 4 and Steam on April 9, 2019!
We would like to inform the community about the following additions are included in the localized release:
- Japanese Swimsuit DLC included in-game
- Difficulty I: Lowered difficulty to allow players to focus on story and puzzle-solving (other difficulties have not been modified)
- English voiceover option (Dual audio, choose from English or original Japanese)
- Overall game balance and UI improvements
To ensure a release for the West, content changes will also be included in the localized PlayStation®4 and Steam® (PC) versions. To reduce content which could be interpreted as sexualization of characters depicted as minors, the following changes have been made:
- PlayStation®4 Packaging art
- In order to conform to public storefront display standards, images that can be interpreted as too sexually provocative must be modified.
- Sachika Bedroom Scene CGIs
- In the Japanese release, Sachika's panties are visible. In the Western release, Sachika is wearing pajama bottoms.
- Sachika CGI in the Opening Scene
- In the Japanese release, Sachika's panties are clearly visible. In the Western release, the camera angle has been raised to not show Sachika's panties.
- Child Rinko Extend Machine CGI
- In the Japanese release, Child Rinko covers her chest with her arms. In the Western release, the position of her arms has been adjusted.
- All "Child" bedtime event cutscenes removed
To think that the devs made the game that way in the first place. Spike Chunsoft pls.
Zanki Zero: Last Beginning Western Release Changes
The Claymore manga is even better since it didn't make up some crazy non canon ending.I gotta say, this thread has been a great read. Infact it is one of the best threads on this forum.
Loving the Claymore and Black Lagoon love in this thread. Those animes are amazing.
I mean, you just recommended Land of the Lustrous some pages ago.I spent a good amount of time thinking of good anime I've watched in the last two years and just... I couldn't even remember the anime I watched in the last two years. Like, I know I watched a lot, but aside from JoJo I remember basically none of it. It was strange... I remember stuff from more than a decade ago with such clarity but can't remember stuff from last season at all. And that's started to become true of video games as well. Not like, as true, I'd say, but still... it was really weird to realize this.
And here's the thing, it's not even that I think some of the stuff I watched during those seasons were bad - I thought stuff like Violet Everagarden and After the Rain were pretty alright. But they didn't stick out to me at all and I actually had to go back to even remember that I'd watched them.
I am planning on reading it after rewatching Claymore as I never got around to reading it. Will be relly exciting to see how it ends.The Claymore manga is even better since it didn't make up some crazy non canon ending.
Yeah I need to do the same at some point. Amazon has the whole manga in a set to buy and I want that badly.I am planning on reading it after rewatching Claymore as I never got around to reading it. Will be relly exciting to see how it ends.
Sure, but one from 2017 ain't exactly a sterling record. :PI mean, you just recommended Land of the Lustrous some pages ago.
Just looked it up and I feel the same. Looks really cool.Yeah I need to do the same at some point. Amazon has the whole manga in a set to buy and I want that badly.
Again, enjoyed the show, would recommend but didn't remember that it was released in 2018. XD
Seconded.
Yar, I'm just ribbing. But seriously, I think this is par for the course? The more you've seen of a medium, the harder for one of them to stand out in your mind.
Spoiler: she never becomes cool again.She was extremely resourceful and capable in 2. In3Evil In Video Game Form...she kinda sucks (well, so far, haven't finished it yet and I may have forgotten her being cool again).
Yeah, that's probably fair, but I knew right away that Demon's Souls would be one of my favorite games the first time I played it and it's still one of my favorites. So that holds true up to a certain point but again, I think the reason I love Land of the Lustrous is because I've seen as much anime as I have and I genuinely think it's doing something different and interesting with the medium.Yar, I'm just ribbing. But seriously, I think this is par for the course? Things you saw when you had seen less of the medium have easier chance to stand out in your mind.
Get off my lawn!
Well shit.
I have most of Berserk and some HxH, my problem with physical manga is storage space.Just looked it up and I feel the same. Looks really cool.
I sometimes think about buying manga physically but then I remember how huge of a money sink they are so I stop myself from buying.
I spent a good amount of time thinking of good anime I've watched in the last two years and just... I couldn't even remember the anime I watched in the last two years. Like, I know I watched a lot, but aside from JoJo I remember basically none of it. It was strange... I remember stuff from more than a decade ago with such clarity but can't remember stuff from last season at all. And that's started to become true of video games as well. Not like, as true, I'd say, but still... it was really weird to realize this.
And here's the thing, it's not even that I think some of the stuff I watched during those seasons were bad - I thought stuff like Violet Everagarden and After the Rain were pretty alright. But they didn't stick out to me at all and I actually had to go back to even remember that I'd watched them.
I actually went back on animelist and saw what I watched from 2017-2018 and I didn't even get six second before doing that reawakened an awful anime from my brain: Youjo Shenki. Hey, want something worse than an iseki? An Isekei that turns an old Japanese cruel salaryman into a young loli Nazi! BRILLIANT! Not helped that this season also has Kobayashi no Dragon Maid-Sama which also is gross in its shoutacon baiting.
She was the first sign that something wasn't right with 3. I felt relieved when she put on the jacket but...yeah, 3 was a fall from grace for that series...the beginning of the end of Visceral.On a whim I'm playing Dead Space 3 again (the co-cop and space stuff is really good, sue me) and I kinda forgot about the character/design assassination they pulled on a side character.
Ellie in Dead Space 2:
Ellie in Dead Space 3:
Aside from the implants, her whole demeanor is blown up into something really shitty. She was extremely resourceful and capable in 2. In 3...she kinda sucks (well, so far, haven't finished it yet and I may have forgotten her being cool again).
I think it toned down the extent of one of the side characters being into little boys, I yikes out of the series after all that, even if the main character and dragon maid girl dymanic was cute for the first two episodes.It's funny you mention Dragon Maid. I've been really curious about it recently. Yes I've heard it's "bad" but seeing the incel/gamergate/istandwithvic types STILL grilling Jamie Marchi over her dub script for the series make me think there's probably a change or two for the better.
Imagine going to school to learn how to draw at a competitive and professional level, you finally start standing out from the crowd and get the rare opportunity to go work as a professional artist, and then you get paid to throw away everything you've learned about composition and perspective just to appease some horny dudes.This isn't exactly new, I don't think, because I remember hearing this title a decent while ago. But, this sponsored Facebook post from Play-Asia went by my feed, and it was spit-take worthy.
Like...holy hell. What's going on? lol
This will sound bad, but a big reason a lot of character designs in video games seem like they were made by horny teenagers is because the designers are horny teenagers. And they became famous at some point for that and just said, "well I'm famous for this, I'll just do more of this." And there's never really been a market correction where the gaming community has collectively said, "hey, that's kinda fucked up." Instead the reaction has pretty much been quite the opposite, where for the most part it's actively encouraged. The media never really matured (or at least it hasn't so far), and this includes Western video games.Imagine going to school to learn how to draw at a competitive and professional level, you finally start standing out from the crowd and get the rare opportunity to go work as a professional artist, and then you get paid to throw away everything you've learned about composition and perspective just to appease some horny dudes.
Imagine going to school to learn how to draw at a competitive and professional level, you finally start standing out from the crowd and get the rare opportunity to go work as a professional artist, and then you get paid to throw away everything you've learned about composition and perspective just to appease some horny dudes.
The female cast in Aggretsuko is fantastic. A friend and I recently cosplayed as Secretary Washimi and Director Gori. 👍
This isn't exactly new, I don't think, because I remember hearing this title a decent while ago. But, this sponsored Facebook post from Play-Asia went by my feed, and it was spit-take worthy.
Like...holy hell. What's going on? lol
I bought like two volumes of bakuman since I heard great things about it but when I actually went through it and saw how it viewed women, it kinda just creeped me out, doubt there's gonna be anything as overt as the bullshit rhetoric in chapter 1 but don't know if I'm willing to continue.I found that the Japanese section of my uni library had some manga so I decided to start reading one. I picked Bakuman, read the first chapter and it seemed fun enough. Then I read the second one and what the hell this is horribly sexist.
My Japanese is not good, so as I was reading through a monologue (from one of the two main characters no less) explaining that the most important quality of a girl before getting married is to look cute, and therefore the girl that gets average grades but looks cute is much smarter than the girl that is top of the class and doesn't look cute, I was thinking 'no this can't be right, I must be misunderstanding'. Then later a character states that 'men have dreams that women will never be able to understand', in easy-to-understand language so I was like what kind of bullshit is that? These statements also go completely unchallenged, as if that's just how things are.
When I got back home I googled the series just to make sure I hadn't misunderstood everything... I found this article that pretty much confirms I understood things correctly, and put the issue into words better than I can.
I'm (sadly) kinda used to seeing lowkey misogyny in manga and anime... But misogyny this overt though? F'ing yikes.
I love how it must have taken them a long time to write that troll post only for no one to buy it at all. That loser must have thought he was so clever and in the end all he got was ridicule and a ban. Hilarious.
At the end of the day, trolling or sincere, bigotry still hurts people. It's not the responsibility of this forum to educate bigoted people.Assuming the person wasn't a troll, should posters who don't empathise with the points made in the thread be banned? I'm sure there are people who just don't get the points being made but I'm not sure banning them is the best course of action.
At the end of the day, trolling or sincere, bigotry still hurts people. It's not the responsibility of this forum to educate bigoted people.
Imagine going to school to learn how to draw at a competitive and professional level, you finally start standing out from the crowd and get the rare opportunity to go work as a professional artist, and then you get paid to throw away everything you've learned about composition and perspective just to appease some horny dudes.