No one knows, but there's been this "game of chicken" where no one wanted to announce price. If Sony undercuts MS, is there anything stopping MS from matching?
Because they removed the Kinect from the box...
Game Pass adds a huge amount of value to Day One people. MS could easily explain the console prices with the many of the launch titles coming as part of Game Pass and not as a separate purchase above the console.
I said that in another thread and I was told it didn't mean anything. I think it does.
Value is not always expressed in how cheap you can get things. Value in gaming, for me, is expressed by the potential titles hitting a console. Therefore, the "value" is higher on PS5 than on Xbox, for me. Backwards compatibility (ecosystem) also adds value for people who already own the last PlayStation, though not so much for me
Value is also how much you can get for your money. Many people, especially those thinking about jumping into a next-gen console, need to feel that the money they drop gives them value, not just at launch but going forward as well. Regardless of what side people fall on, the value proposition of Game Pass is pretty damn high, especially with Series S being super cheap. IMO of course.
Day 1 Series X shoppers will trend to be ingrained gaming enthusiasts, so more likely to already have played the generally older games in game pass.
There have been some vague mentions, but with "potential titles" I was looking longer term.
I'm not dismissing what you believe is value, because you're absolutely right too. I'm just adding another group of people, including me, who believe that other value propositions are more valuable to us. Namely games I cannot get on that platform or games from the previous iteration of a platform I can replay/continue playing. Different strokes for different folks, right?
Agreed. I'm glad Xbox are bouncing back and coming in strong, after a "bad" console generation. Put some pressure on Sony, so they increase their value so I can benefit more off it. Still a bit on the fence about the profit generated by Gamepass and what it would mean for (first party) big budget games, however.
Fundamentally though the two consoles are the same in terms of effective performance (disc and digital) so the 399 Digital would be the same as the 499 Disc. Its just the delivery method that changes. Therefore they should treat the 399 as their primary competition as they dont have an equivalent box at the same power level thats digital only.
