Agreed! If anything Platinum going back to boring monotype teams was a downgrade to me.I will say. I personally am fine with DP Gym Leader teams. I even prefer it.
When DP came out, I thought it was a shift in how Gyms were being approached and they'd focus on a certain move type with other moves on the Pokémon for coverage. It's how I wanted Gyms to be so you couldn't just go in against say Volkner with a Ground-type and guarantee victory.
It's how I want Gym Leaders to go. SWSH shook things up with many of the Pokémon carrying moves that can mess with you if you go for their main weakness, but the AI didn't really use it to their advantage, but if they went this path that they did with DP for future games I'd be all for it.
I mean, it's a nice thought, but that's rationalisation after the fact. They had those teams because the Pokedex didn't have enough Pokemon to kit them out with a full team of their type, not because they wanted to take the Gyms in a different direction- you can see that by the way they immediately changed course in Platinum.I will say. I personally am fine with DP Gym Leader teams. I even prefer it.
When DP came out, I thought it was a shift in how Gyms were being approached and they'd focus on a certain move type with other moves on the Pokémon for coverage. It's how I wanted Gyms to be so you couldn't just go in against say Volkner with a Ground-type and guarantee victory.
It's how I want Gym Leaders to go. SWSH shook things up with many of the Pokémon carrying moves that can mess with you if you go for their main weakness, but the AI didn't really use it to their advantage, but if they went this path that they did with DP for future games I'd be all for it.
Yeah obviously that's why it happened, but back in DP that's how I thought it was going to be, and I'm glad it's a thing. Regardless of why it happened, it's a twist on things.I mean, it's a nice thought, but that's rationalisation after the fact. They had those teams because the Pokedex didn't have enough Pokemon to kit them out with a full team of their type, not because they wanted to take the Gyms in a different direction- you can see that by the way they immediately changed course in Platinum.
8 days before launchDid they tease/announce the episode delta stuff before the launch of Oras? Or was that a post game thing people discovered at launch?
Don't downplay the backlash. It doesn't matter how small it actually was, it was very loud and incessant. Even I received death threats and constant harassment about it & I just report on the news and it broke me. That sort of stuff, even small, it can cause directional shift or reconsiderations. Developers are human and even if it's just a small group of ~200 online just constantly screaming at you, it can get to you.
Also re: your earlier post, Let's Go's backlash didn't change SWSH? SWSH was in development long before Let's Go was revealed. You know that right? You were just being ridiculous for effect right?
Gym type mixups should happen in one gen though, just make it so those gyms aren't specifically called after types when you mix it up though. Have the Trick Room Gym, the Eviolite Gym, The Happiness Gym, etc.
It's funny, I was a bit disappointed in the lack of Emerald content in ORAS, but I have over 1,000 hours In AS and somewhere around 300 in OR, so I clearly very much enjoyed those games.
Might even start a fresh file on one today.
They need to keep the standards consistent, and low. If Nintendo themselves was to make one of the games, it would probably turn out really good. And almost undoubtedly look so much more visually cohesive than anything Game Freak has done in the last decade.I don't understand why didn't gamefreak let Nintendo handle this remake. They should have given it to the guys that did the Link's Awakening remake
But they can't have that, because then fans would be disappointed when the next Game Freak title came along.
Please? Gen V is perfect and should just be ported forward with Bank/modern online compatibility added. Shit, add that and sell them on the eshop for $40/$50, I'd buy it.
BW3 would be a dream, extra lore around the original Dragon, further expanding Unova.. Perfect.
It's cool to see all these new pokemon get a spotlight (Something which more recent games have not been doing to well, glaring at you Leon and your Charizard you can never shut up about).
Gen 1 games actually came pre-Switch (over a year before) and as part of the Virtual Console, Gen 2 was post-Switch granted. They did have "extra" features added but that was only the Virtual Console modification to allow for local connection to be made as if it was using a Link Cable. That's the only "modern feature", no change in gameplay or anything (except Crystal unlocked a previous Mystery Gift over Internet only gift of the GS Ball to all players globally).It's a real shame that nowadays there is no way to play games like Platinum, B&W, B&W2 or Heartgold in modern hardware without resorting to emulation. I wonder why they ported the original Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal to the 3DS with some modern features added (and the Switch was already out), but they haven't carried on. Surely there's some money to be made there? Perhaps Serebii can comment.
They need to keep the standards consistent, and low. If Nintendo themselves was to make one of the games, it would probably turn out really good. And almost undoubtedly look so much more visually cohesive than anything Game Freak has done in the last decade.
But they can't have that, because then fans would be disappointed when the next Game Freak title came along.
ORAS is really really good. Its sadly not a definitive version of gen 3 but it brings something to the table that makes it better than the original Ruby and Sapphire. So far these remakes don't feel very definitive, even compared to the original Diamond and Pearl.It's funny, I was a bit disappointed in the lack of Emerald content in ORAS, but I have over 1,000 hours In AS and somewhere around 300 in OR, so I clearly very much enjoyed those games.
Might even start a fresh file on one today.
I mean, sure. It's a hypothetical -- but insert Nintendo with any big competent developer, then. I'd imagine a ton of impressive studios would have jumped at the chance to make a Diamond & Pearl remake. But there's a reason Game Freak picked ILCA, and still has Masuda at the helm.
I mean, sure. It's a hypothetical -- but insert Nintendo with any big competent developer, then. I'd imagine a ton of impressive studios would have jumped at the chance to make a Diamond & Pearl remake. But there's a reason Game Freak picked ILCA, and still has Masuda at the helm.
Why assume cheapest?While this is more plausible, it's still not very plausible. A more compelling theory is that ILCA was just the cheapest developer who was available at the time and that Game Freak had some experience with.
Is this a good plan compared to hiring a more expensive but more experienced developer? Of course not.
We've seen the person who gives the Gracidea who exists only in Platinum and not DP exists in this gameI suppose probably not but anything regarding form changes? ie, mainly interested in Rotom but Giratina and Shaymin have alt formes too
ORAS is really really good. Its sadly not a definitive version of gen 3 but it brings something to the table that makes it better than the original Ruby and Sapphire. So far these remakes don't feel very definitive, even compared to the original Diamond and Pearl.
Why assume cheapest?
We've seen the person who gives the Gracidea who exists only in Platinum and not DP exists in this game
Yeah, I agree. That was something I didn't mind about the originals, either. That's the way Gyms should be.I will say. I personally am fine with DP Gym Leader teams. I even prefer it.
When DP came out, I thought it was a shift in how Gyms were being approached and they'd focus on a certain move type with other moves on the Pokémon for coverage. It's how I wanted Gyms to be so you couldn't just go in against say Volkner with a Ground-type and guarantee victory.
It's how I want Gym Leaders to go. SWSH shook things up with many of the Pokémon carrying moves that can mess with you if you go for their main weakness, but the AI didn't really use it to their advantage, but if they went this path that they did with DP for future games I'd be all for it.
I was actually very excited for this game. I didn't mind the graphics or the apparently very faithful adaptation of the original game. But everything has a limit: this game is faithful to a fault. I totally get not trying to deviate from the original material too much. But not wanting to fix what's easily fixable? Or, even worse, choosing to go with the lesser versions instead of Platinum? That makes no sense.
At least HGSS incorporated part of the Crystal storyline and ORAS, while it didn't have the Battle Frontier (again, nonesense), expanded the base plot, included new gameplay mechanics and added the Delta Episode.
If they were going to stick so close to this they should have just done that. As it is right now it looks like ass. If they'd done pixel remasters of an HD-2D, I think people would have at least had that to look forward to even if the experience adhered closely to DP. As it is now, I went from being on the fence about wanting BW remakes after LGPE were the latest remakes to strongly believing they shouldn't even bother after seeing how these games turned outwould be great if GF/Pokemon would do something like the Square Enix FF Pixel Remasters for Gen 1-5 - redo the pixels, make the games HD/widescreen, re-record the soundtrack w/ orchestra
I'm curious, by "dongle Pokemon" did the user the mons that were catchable by inserting Gen 3 games in the Gameboy slot? I haven't kept up with all the details but have any of these GB slot mons been seen in trailers or promotion materials?
Yeah, I meant those Pokemon. I remember Magby and Gligar being two exclusive to that feature, and I assume FR had Elekid in that case lol.I'm curious, by "dongle Pokemon" did the user the mons that were catchable by inserting Gen 3 games in the Gameboy slot? I haven't kept up with all the details but have any of these GB slot mons been seen in trailers or promotion materials?
Not gonna happen 'cause they want to be """faithful""" to the original game. Which was a dumb move.Wonder if Sylveon made it into this or if Eevee will just be down 1 evolution
Sylveon is the only post Gen 4 new evolution not tied to a regional form... seems like if they were going to add something to the dex, it'd be Sylveon
It's funny, I was a bit disappointed in the lack of Emerald content in ORAS, but I have over 1,000 hours In AS and somewhere around 300 in OR, so I clearly very much enjoyed those games.
Might even start a fresh file on one today.
Ohh gotcha. I certainly hope all of the GB slot mons return (and not just those associated with the Gen 4 dex). Some mons like Zangoose/Seviper haven't been catchable since ORAS. Would be nice to have easier access to them (apart from Pokemon Go)Yeah, I meant those Pokemon. I remember Magby and Gligar being two exclusive to that feature, and I assume FR had Elekid in that case lol.
I guess they're in because otherwise the game would be missing gen IV Pokemon.
Gen 1 games actually came pre-Switch (over a year before) and as part of the Virtual Console, Gen 2 was post-Switch granted. They did have "extra" features added but that was only the Virtual Console modification to allow for local connection to be made as if it was using a Link Cable. That's the only "modern feature", no change in gameplay or anything (except Crystal unlocked a previous Mystery Gift over Internet only gift of the GS Ball to all players globally).
The Switch does not have a Virtual Console, and reports have indicated that Virtual Console doesn't sell well. The Pokémon figures we have are 1.5 million for all games combined.
ORAS is really really good. Its sadly not a definitive version of gen 3 but it brings something to the table that makes it better than the original Ruby and Sapphire. So far these remakes don't feel very definitive, even compared to the original Diamond and Pearl.
Wonder if Sylveon made it into this or if Eevee will just be down 1 evolution
Sylveon is the only post Gen 4 new evolution not tied to a regional form... seems like if they were going to add something to the dex, it'd be Sylveon
would be great if GF/Pokemon would do something like the Square Enix FF Pixel Remasters for Gen 1-5 - redo the pixels, make the games HD/widescreen, re-record the soundtrack w/ orchestra
Oh they decided to not be faithful there and include it.
Let's not be silly and disingenuous. The battle system and various QoL features are SWSH engine. Faithful remake is in terms of story, progression, region etc. They even said this from the beginning
ORAS is really really good. Its sadly not a definitive version of gen 3 but it brings something to the table that makes it better than the original Ruby and Sapphire. So far these remakes don't feel very definitive, even compared to the original Diamond and Pearl.
yeah maybe if Dragon Quest HD2D remake and the Pixel remasters do well for Square on console/Switch, they'll get a sense that it could be a profitable thing for them - especially if there is somehow a downturn in sales for these remakes (which there most likely won't be) - would love a separate 2d Pokemon side series with high quality pixel art etc... and more along the lines of B/WIf they were going to stick so close to this they should have just done that. As it is right now it looks like ass. If they'd done pixel remasters of an HD-2D, I think people would have at least had that to look forward to even if the experience adhered closely to DP. As it is now, I went from being on the fence about wanting BW remakes after LGPE were the latest remakes to strongly believing they shouldn't even bother after seeing how these games turned out
🤣🤣this whole faithful crap, third version etc nonsense ppl be throwing around kill me. They remaking the gens they can effectively do whatever they wanna do they simply choose not too. Same example for black and white and the sequels they not remaking all 4 and ain't nobody asking them to remake both into one game either but take the stuff from the sequels like the optional side content(pwt,white forest/black city poke stars etc) and fit em right in there somewhere. The same applies to platinum content here.
Thing is that the DS Pokémon games are not purely 2D outside of the battles, they have a lot of 3D elements, so I get why they would make them 3D. It has to look good however.yeah maybe if Dragon Quest HD2D remake and the Pixel remasters do well for Square on console/Switch, they'll get a sense that it could be a profitable thing for them - especially if there is somehow a downturn in sales for these remakes (which there most likely won't be) - would love a separate 2d Pokemon side series with high quality pixel art etc... and more along the lines of B/W
I don't think they'd ever release a game missing the Fairy type
Well the HD-2D games are 3D made to look like 2D, so that...style/method would actually be a pretty good fit. I honestly think the 3D elements in BW would have been made to look more seamless with the sprites if the DS had the HW to properly do cell/toon shading (and GF had the 3D experience)Thing is that the DS Pokémon games are not purely 2D outside of the battles, they have a lot of 3D elements, so I get why they would make them 3D. It has to look good however.
"These are faithful remakes* of the original Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl games!"