It will be interesting to see if this moves the needle. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of AOC's base was already supporting Bernie.
I'm talking specifically about his "work with Republicans" take. He was an idealist and honestly kind of a fool for thinking it would work, and look where it got us.
There's obvious overlap but this should be pretty big. Her SM echoing Bernie alone will be huge. 5.5m followers (Or rather whatever percent of her/any follower number is real) is no joke.It will be interesting to see if this moves the needle. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of AOC's base was already supporting Bernie.
Just because you, like, say this, doesn't mean it's true.Would only help Biden still imo. As awesome a president as Sanders would make, America clearly doesn't want him. He gets loyal support but for two elections now, he has shown he can't grow his support.
It does. Obama was an idealist who was probably too good for a world as racist and hateful as this one.
He was entirely bought out by big banks, Wall Street, and big media/tech. He fucking ordered drone strikes on children countless times, he didn't close Gitmo. Your hero worship of Obama is misplaced.
"Listen to WOC!"
"NO! Not like that! Why're they being so stupid?!"
-Libs
Now all I'm waiting for is some HP references and it'll be a bingo for today.
Why a large part of progressives don't like Bernie Sanders? It seems so weird to me because he obviously has the most progressive views of all the candidates, even Warren. I do understand that having a woman as president is really big and I'm sure Warren would make a great presidente, but it seems that Sanders has better plans for everything, specially healthcare.
It ain't the thread, it's the fucking world.
I've never seen someone in 3RD place FOUR MONTHS before the FIRST PRIMARY be so written off as Bernie is now. Jesus fucking Christ.
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Weren't there only three people running in 2016 and not this clown car we got?never?
how did people feel about Martin O'Malley's chances at this point in the 2016 cycle?
I was calling him naive. Have you ever known me to hero worship ANYONE?
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
It will be interesting to see if this moves the needle. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of AOC's base was already supporting Bernie.
A lot of liberals feel that identity should override everything. They don't take an intersectional view of things.That tweet is probably a very common take among liberal and centrist democrats.
Agreed. And this manifests into incredibly condescending takes like the tweet at hand.A lot of liberals feel that identity should override everything. They don't take an intersectional view of things.
It's very condescending and annoying. The way these liberals come at shit like this, I gotta vote for either Kamala or Buttigieg since they share parts of my identity.Agreed. And this manifests into incredibly condescending takes like the tweet at hand.
Can someone explain to me why it is Bernie that would be the one clearing the path for Biden and not Warren?
Thou shall not betray the tribeIt's very condescending and annoying. The way these liberals come at shit like this, I gotta vote for either Kamala or Buttigieg since they share parts of my identity.
Can someone explain to me why it is Bernie that would be the one clearing the path for Biden and not Warren?
Can someone explain to me why it is Bernie that would be the one clearing the path for Biden and not Warren?
I don't actually think this pushes any numbers, but the train of thought is:Can someone explain to me why it is Bernie that would be the one clearing the path for Biden and not Warren?
Most people aren't upset.Why are ppl upset at AOC for this lol
she is VERY open about supporting who you believe in, not who would make the best itchy dinosaur approved chess piece
I................. didnt say most ppl are...........
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Bernie is gonna go down as one of the most influential politicians from this era even if he loses the nomination.
Personally I also don't see him as particularly weak on gun reform either. I think he's got more of a perspective on the actual practical need for guns in places like rural Vermont vs the guy in suburbia building a personal armory. I know people tried to also jump down his throat when he refused to sign on to challenges made by Hillary and others in 2016 that they should work to allow victims of mass shootings to sue the manufacturers of the weapons used. Which on its face sounds nice but I think Bernie had enough foresight to realize that could set a terrible precedent that extends beyond firearms discussion.
Likely because Warren is ahead of Sanders, so the logic is if Sanders stepped aside it would certainly push Warren over the top of Biden. If Warren stepped aside for Sanders, the same thing might happen, but Warren is in the lead right now, so people feel Sanders should step aside for her. I imagine other people would be making the same arguments if it was Sanders leading over Warren right now.
Bernie was leading Warren for the first several months but I didn't hear the same sentiments for whatever percentage Warren had at the time. I get she is in the lead now, but is there any particular reason why at this exact time with so much left in the primary is this sentiment only now being shared?
Bernie was leading Warren for the first several months but I didn't hear the same sentiments for whatever percentage Warren had at the time. I get she is in the lead now, but is there any particular reason why at this exact time with so much left in the primary is this sentiment only now being shared?
Could be a combo of factors: closer to election, people dislike Bernie more and want him to drop out, Biden entering the race/polling high, etc.
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Timing makes perfect sense. Sanders has been dipping in the polls, and recently had a heart attack. If he wants to shake things up this would be the best time to do so. Try and use this time to relaunch his campaign.This makes sense from AOC since IIRC she supported him in 2016, but why drop the endorsement news now? I don't quite understand the timing and I thought she might at least leave the door open for Warren.
Takes like this really make white liberalism's support for diversity seem like nothing but a self pat on the back for optics. And if you read the subtext of it, it really seems like the implication is that she expects that all women and POC should or do think alike?
Seems kind of patronizing and maybe a bit racist.
Some people are always going to be lowest common denominator and treat politics like sport.
We've already seen multiple calls for Warren to drop out, as well as Bernie, so it's not something that is unique to either side.
Personally, as long as they end up supporting the eventual nominee against Trump, let them ride. The only reason to call for someone else to drop out at this point is because you're afraid that they'll end up winning the nomination instead not your favored candidate.
That says more about the person someone is asking to drop out than it does about their favored candidate.
This makes sense from AOC since IIRC she supported him in 2016, but why drop the endorsement news now? I don't quite understand the timing and I thought she might at least leave the door open for Warren.
Likely because Warren is ahead of Sanders, so the logic is if Sanders stepped aside it would certainly push Warren over the top of Biden. If Warren stepped aside for Sanders, the same thing might happen, but Warren is in the lead right now, so people feel Sanders should step aside for her. I imagine other people would be making the same arguments if it was Sanders leading over Warren right now.
Yeah, this. I said way back in, like, January that I'd vote for whichever of Sanders or Warren is more likely to win the nomination by the time Indiana primaries roll around. I want one of them to win, and don't want any of the others. Early on, I thought this would mean me voting Sanders because Warren was at single digits. But it's become very clear in the last several months that Warren has a much, much easier path to the nomination, so I'm backing her.I don't actually think this pushes any numbers, but the train of thought is:
Warren is in the lead. If Sanders takes 2% or so of Warren's numbers away from her, Biden regains the lead. Sanders remains in third place.