He's probably gonna be more Ultron than JARVIS.
He's probably gonna be more Ultron than JARVIS.
Is white vision different from normal vision in the comics or something?
Also is that Agatha cult scene something we're supposed to know from the comics or is her backstory a mystery?
Alright, yeah, that was easily the worst episode by a country mile. Just exposition dumps and the least exciting of the potential reveals confirmed at every step. Just outright bad, honestly. First real miss the show has had, but damn, what a fucking miss.
The after-credits scene was better than the entire rest of the episode, white Vision is hype.
Sooo...
It really was just Wanda on her own. Enslaving and torturing the entire town due to her grief?
Agnes is bad...but also good? She seems to be of the same mind as Hayward here. If Wanda is capable of all this (and more, apparently) then she fucking IS dangerous, and WandaVIsion was a villain origin story the entire time.
I DID appreciate all the scene chewing we got from Kathryn Hahn. But I'm going to need some time to process this episode.
Probably to try and justify his reasoning for trying to kill Wanda without it getting out that he was the likely cause of all of this happening because he didn't let Wanda bury Vision in a "I've got to tie up all loose ends" way
And brahs, I'm gonna fight whoever is saying this was a bad episode and just exposition. We got 30 minutes of sadness and trauma.
It just wasn't handled well, and this is the first time that the show has veered away from its elusive, subtle storytelling techniques to blow it all on an information dump. Again, not exactly laudable. By the way, I'm not #TeamMephisto, so ya missed there.
White Vision is basically a rebuilt Vision except he's an emotionless robot, because a prominent Marvel writer though robots shouldn't have emotions or some bullshit like that and he also hated the Scarlet Witch/Vision pairing.Is white vision different from normal vision in the comics or something?
Also is that Agatha cult scene something we're supposed to know from the comics or is her backstory a mystery?
I don't buy Agnes being well intentioned here. She has the ability to act like a vampire to other magic users judging by the opening. She's pissed she's using it for goofy and petty means. She wants the power for herself.
It seems like they're setting up The Scarlet Witch to be a special title/power set, which actually does come from the comics (where Wanda's mother was also a Scarlet Witch)I can't believe how long it took them to call her "Scarlet Witch".
The White Vision rumors were true after all.
Literally, I'm ready to throw down lol
That was probably one of the most powerful episodes. It helps sell the Vision/Wanda relationship (which always felt a little bit rushed) and built more sympathy for Wanda as a character.
So you'd rather see "Ooh cool comic reference" rather than actual character development?
I see we've gotten to the point of the mystery show where people are lowkey mad their preferred solution isn't the real one and are conveying their disappointment through wack tradecraft criticism.
Honestly find it really dumb if they teased the multiverse twice just for both times to be a fake out. More so when you bring an X-Men from another franchise. It being fake is so much less interesting.I thought their explanation about Quicksilver was deeply unsatisfying. Hoping they rectify that in the last episode (but they probably won't). I don't need "MULTIVERSE", but just something more than "oh yeah, he was a fake".
Darcy's entire character - both here and in the Thor films - was to be the comedic relief that dropped exposition. It's still a tad clunky, but at least it felt organic when she was doing it. Literally stopping after every flashback to go "okay, so, your parents died, your brother died, and then Vision died" is just unnecessary. You just showed us a five minute flashback, we don't need Agatha to walk over and summarize what just happened in it.It's really not. This repetitive exposition has been the hallmark of the Sword side with Darcy and the cop. It's nothing new to this episode at all.
So sweet and cute. I loved the legit laugh from Vision at the end, he didn't make fun of Wanda's sitcom or not understand it, he jived with it.
I think the point is she didn't care that much to be accurate and plus she said herself illusions are hardI thought their explanation about Quicksilver was deeply unsatisfying. Hoping they rectify that in the last episode (but they probably won't). I don't need "MULTIVERSE", but just something more than "oh yeah, he was a fake".
Any chance by the end of it Agatha will become Wanda's tutor like in the comics or has that ship sailed?
Yep. Hate to say it but the "critiques" all really boil down to the show not ticking some sort of "comic book" quota. It's not some deal with the devil or even Agatha scheming it's a woman's grief after she constantly keeps losing the people closest to her.I see we've gotten to the point of the mystery show where people are lowkey mad their preferred solution isn't the real one and are conveying their disappointment through wack tradecraft criticism.
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Darcy's entire character - both here and in the Thor films - was to be the comedic relief that dropped exposition. It's still a tad clunky, but at least it felt organic when she was doing it. Literally stopping after every flashback to go "okay, so, your parents died, your brother died, and then Vision died" is just unnecessary. You just showed us a five minute flashback, we don't need Agatha to walk over and summarize what just happened.
Shit, folks in this thread were praising last week's reveal because they handled the exposition dump in a funny way with a silly song rather than a laborious monologue, now we're all in support of the laborious monologue?
I liked the episode a lot. This is by far the best job they've done developing the actual relationship between Wanda and Vision. The scene on the bed in the Avengers facility is the most they've ever felt like two people who care about each other.
I'm confused... So Westview, NJ really does exist? Or is that a SWORD fabrication? And why would SWORD know that Wanda was capable of altering reality or "bringing Vision back online" in the first place?