Benzychenz

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I just had eggs for breakfast and I cracked them into the sink and gave them a good rinse before moving them into the pan 🥰
 

Beer Monkey

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I am a butcher by trade. Stop stuffing your turkey. Jesus Christ.

Hey, I'm not an advocate. It's not compatible with the best cooking techniques anyway. It can be done safely with proper temperature checks at several different locations but it's just not a good way to cook turkey meat. I'm just pointing out that it is still a common technique for many families.
 
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Hey, I'm not an advocate. It's not compatible with the best cooking techniques anyway. It can be done safely with proper temperature checks at several different locations but it's just not a good way to cook turkey meat. I'm just pointing out that it is still a common technique for many families.

I posted the exact same thing about washing meat earlier, it was mostly a tongue in cheek callback.
 

Bionic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do the meat washers take the crab, shrimp and lobster apart out of the shell and wash it first before cooking it?
I take the poop vein out of the shrimp before I cook it. Does that count?

Also some people eat shellfish shells, so you might want to condescendingly ask if they wash the shells to cover all your bases.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think I got some frozen scallops in the freezer past the 6 month mark. Need to get around to cooking them.
 

Nepenthe

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My family's did this because we could not afford fresh meat, and bought stuff that was on sale to freeze it.
My question to you and others who quoted me: you would hold individual small packs of meat for up to two years? That feels like such an infrequent eating time unless you were buying whole cows' worth of meat.

let's take a look at what white people are up to in the kitchen


Ironically in my search of food poisoning rates along racial lines, while Black folks suffer more Salmonella poisoning at a whopping 2 folks per 100,000 a year, I found out whites are more likely to suffer symptomatic E.coli because they are just consuming pinker ground beef than other groups are?...

Sooooooo why don't you guys cook your ground beef all the way through?
 

fontguy

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Oct 8, 2018
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What gets me about "it's science!" is that virtually everyone has *some* food safety rule(s) that they ignore or at least approach very casually. Sending kids to school with sandwiches in paper sacks, stuffing the bird on thanksgiving, the aforementioned consumption of raw cookie dough, keeping leftovers beyond two days or whatever it is, etc etc etc. Nobody here's an angel in the eyes of the FDA.
Thing is, people usually do unsanitary things with their food because doing things the "right way" is less convenient or less delicious. You accept some risk in return for a reward.

Your reward for taking the time and energy to wash your chicken is… more salmonella.
 

Tuorom

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Ironically in my search of food poisoning rates along racial lines, while Black folks suffer more Salmonella poisoning at a whopping 2 folks per 100,000 a year, I found out whites are more likely to suffer symptomatic E.coli because they are just consuming pinker ground beef than other groups are?...

Sooooooo why don't you guys cook your ground beef all the way through?
You think white folks know how to cook? Our top seasoning is salt and pepper
 

Tbro777

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My question to you and others who quoted me: you would hold individual small packs of meat for up to two years? That feels like such an infrequent eating time unless you were buying whole cows' worth of meat.


Ironically in my search of food poisoning rates along racial lines, while Black folks suffer more Salmonella poisoning at a whopping 2 folks per 100,000 a year, I found out whites are more likely to suffer symptomatic E.coli because they are just consuming pinker ground beef than other groups are?...

Sooooooo why don't you guys cook your ground beef all the way through?
This is something I'll never understand. Eating a medium or medium rare steak is preferable mainly because it's more tender and flavorful because it's not as dry. Ground beef is already tender and has fat mixed in with it too keep it juicy, there's absolutely no reason for less than well done burger.
 

Jakisthe

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This is something I'll never understand. Eating a medium or medium rare steak is preferable mainly because it's more tender and flavorful because it's not as dry. Ground beef is already tender and has fat mixed in with it too keep it juicy, there's absolutely no reason for less than well done burger.
The muscular fibers in a well-done burger have squeezed out more flavorful juices - in the same way that a steak has flavorful juices - than a less cooked one.
 

Bessy67

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Lol. Look up cannibal sandwiches for a rare treat.
I love me some cannibal sandwiches. What makes it even more interesting is that my uncle who supplies the ground beef for the cannibal sandwiches at Christmas buys it from a gas station. It's actually a really nice premium butcher at that gas station but still, it's raw ground beef from a gas station on rye with some onion. And I love it.
 

BLEEN

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There are 100% still plenty of people who do it.

www.allrecipes.com

Easy Beginner's Turkey with Stuffing

This Thanksgiving turkey and stuffing recipe is delicious and easy to make. It's great for beginner cooks, but experts will be just as impressed!


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If you just use half the amount of stuffing (loosely fill the cavity about halfway), you'll be fine.

The stuffing will reach 165°F without drying out the bird. If you brine the turkey beforehand, you don't even have to worry about the it drying out in the first place and can stuff normally. Most people don't tho, so just fill half loosely.

Edit* I don't speel gud
 
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kmfdmpig

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One of my coworkers recently had a trip to Italy, France, and Greece. She legit said authentic Italian food was trash, but she sees why it keeps you all thin.
I grew up in a predominantly Italian neighborhood in NY and never really liked Italian food until we had it in Italy. It's not like the food is extravagant or fancy but the ingredients were so good. Tomatoes, basil, pasta, etc... all tasted much better in Italy because the ingredients were better. I had some meals there that were nothing special but finding a good place was amazing and the food was a highlight of a great trip.
 
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This is something I'll never understand. Eating a medium or medium rare steak is preferable mainly because it's more tender and flavorful because it's not as dry. Ground beef is already tender and has fat mixed in with it too keep it juicy, there's absolutely no reason for less than well done burger.

Yea, they think ground meat is the same as a whole cut of meat.
 

BLEEN

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Lol and I explained why I did it. I hadn't cooked duck before so I put it off for a while until a special occasion and I was confident I could do it. Dirt simple and should've done it sooner of course haha

Freezers are the shit. You package things right, it's like a time-stasis machine. Except fresh basil. That needs to be processed a bit before freezing if you want it to still look like basil.
 

Nepenthe

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I grew up in a predominantly Italian neighborhood in NY and never really liked Italian food until we had it in Italy. It's not like the food is extravagant or fancy but the ingredients were so good. Tomatoes, basil, pasta, etc... all tasted much better in Italy because the ingredients were better. I had some meals there that were nothing special but finding a good place was amazing and the food was a highlight of a great trip.
To be honest, her report back was a shock to me. Granted, I have a wider palate than she does, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt and assume that, if I ever get a chance to go back, I'll be far happier with the cuisine lol.
 

BLEEN

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You think white folks know how to cook? Our top seasoning is salt and pepper
Don't forget about MSG!
This is something I'll never understand. Eating a medium or medium rare steak is preferable mainly because it's more tender and flavorful because it's not as dry. Ground beef is already tender and has fat mixed in with it too keep it juicy, there's absolutely no reason for less than well done burger.
Medium-well is the lowest I go. You're in damn risky territory on anything medium and under. Well unless you grind your own meat but I find the benefits don't outweigh the time to prepare.
 
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My question to you and others who quoted me: you would hold individual small packs of meat for up to two years? That feels like such an infrequent eating time unless you were buying whole cows' worth of meat.


Beef prices in Canada keep going up but there are still really good sales at certain times of year. Can buy a large roast and cut it up into several steaks to last for months.

Vacuum sealer + freezer = savings
 

kmfdmpig

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To be honest, her report back was a shock to me. Granted, I have a wider palate than she does, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt and assume that, if I ever get a chance to go back, I'll be far happier with the cuisine lol.
At least for us it was always a matter of finding places that locals ate at rather than the touristy places. Tons of sub-par and cheesy restaurants would be near the main tourist spots so it was a matter of getting a bit away from those. My wife and I got kind of lost and found an utterly amazing place our first night in Rome and ended up going back to the same place a few times. The downside was that the tiramisu was so good that the rest of the trip we'd get tiramisu hoping it would be comparable and it never was. Having that on the first day of a 2 week trip was a bit of a bummer.
 

Nepenthe

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Beef prices in Canada keep going up but there are still really good sales at certain times of year. Can buy a large roast and cut it up into several steaks to last for months.

Vacuum sealer + freezer = savings
My family buys meat in bulk too when we can help it, but we have never bought enough to last up to two years or longer in the freezer (for one, we don't have a freezer to fit that amount of meat). And honestly, the moment I see something with a date on it from a year ago, I toss it anyway under the assumption it's no good/freezer burnt.
 

BLEEN

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Y'all don't even use MSG because of anti-Asian racism.

It's literally my secret ingredient for anything savory. And it's so cheap and plentiful it honestly feels like I'm cheating when using it. Moreover, a little goes such a long way! Haha

I really hate that anti-asian crap spread about it. I don't even tell people I use it anymore because I'm tired of correcting people. Did that for years.

Yeah, some of my friends are dipshits especially the one that has her Masters and it's just like... are you even smart? Lol

Just enjoy the damn food I made you for free and to your specifications. But I ain't getting rid of the MSG! Even if I have to grab some from my pocket like sand when no one's looking.
 
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My family buys meat in bulk too when we can help it, but we have never bought enough to last up to two years or longer in the freezer (for one, we don't have a freezer to fit that amount of meat). And honestly, the moment I see something with a date on it from a year ago, I toss it anyway under the assumption it's no good/freezer burnt.

2 years is extreme but I've kept a prime rib roast in the freezer for over 6 months. I just know it'll still be good within 2 years. If you vacuum seal it you won't get any freezer burn or anything.
 

BLEEN

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2 years is extreme but I've kept a prime rib roast in the freezer for over 6 months. I just know it'll still be good within 2 years. If you vacuum seal it you won't get any freezer burn or anything.
Exactly.

I would actually like to know how long a steak can be frozen for before ill-effect. I'm guessing something like 4 or 5 years? I noticed no difference whatsoever in a year, two years, I'm not scared to go further but, like, I'm gonna eat it before the one year mark almost assuredly lmao

I'm sure if I Google it, some wise fuck scientist probably tried this already. I think the most I've seen happen is a bit of color change? I'm colorblind so I'm not even sure.
 

Nepenthe

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2 years is extreme but I've kept a prime rib roast in the freezer for over 6 months. I just know it'll still be good within 2 years. If you vacuum seal it you won't get any freezer burn or anything.
Six months in the freezer is more in line with how long I would guess most of the bulk-buying population is sitting on frozen food for, especially if only because I presume they would be consuming the stuff in their freezer.

We've also never had a vacuum sealer. At most if we split it, it's put into separate Zip Locks.