One from Funi. Guess there should be a third incoming as well?:
The supplement also incorporated Rial and Toye's evidence that Plaintiff is libel-proof and supplemented the record with excerpts from the depositions of Plaintiff
If Plaintiff has a meritorious lawsuit, he should not fear amendments or supplements. Plaintiff should be focused on gathering clear and specific evidence for each of the elements of his claims instead of quibbling about procedural and evidentiary matters.
He's been trying to dig up anything questionable (Ron's divorce, some old Sean Schemmel audio of him saying "My son's a f*g" as Goku, and something else I'm forgetting) for the last few days. It's such a desperately pathetic diversion to try to make #kickvic seem hypocritical, it's not even worth paying attention to.Vic stans are now calling christopher sabat racist cuz of this
It's likely credible, but the reason behind him bringing it up is so obvious, it's not worth taking the bait.
Oh I meant, he doesn't have good intentions with this at allIt's likely credible, but the reason behind him bringing it up is so obvious, it's not worth taking the bait.
VAs making goofy and not entirely in good taste jokes in character is a pretty common thing in the industry, I don't know why they'd think it's some kind of smoking gun.I'm pretty unimpressed that they think dub outtakes / fuckery in the recording booth are a big deal tbh
In stuff never intended to be released to the public? I don't see how.Apparently some official Toei music and sound effects were used which can be seen as a breach of contract?
I've heard these clips are all pretty old. Apparently the Schemmel one has actually been floating around for awhile.I'm undecided on Sean using that word. I mean it's meant to be goofy bloopers and shit, but still, I would think you'd never record anything that you'd NEVER want to be heard publicly because of how bad they'd be out of context, no matter how private it's meant to be.
I don't think Sean is homophobic, or assume that based on this, but it's still not a good look.
Do we have any idea how old that clip is?
Where are these clips from anyway? Were they just around the internet or something?
I've heard these clips are all pretty old. Apparently the Schemmel one has actually been floating around for awhile.
Likely leaked from the studio by someone who has access.Where are these clips from anyway? Were they just around the internet or something?
Something like that most likely.Like how many years though? A decade, maybe during Kai's recordings?
The VAs will probably explain the situation tomorrow and apologize and then the low attention span people will forget and move on.
Likely leaked from the studio by someone who has access.
Something like that most likely.
I mean it wasn't until recently that homophobic jokes began to become a no-no, so yeah.I think it's accurate to say stuff like that was shall we say, not AS looked down upon back then as now, since not only tastes have changed, but our views of these issues are far more strict now than ever. That kind of dark humor(?) just doesn't fly these days and for good reason, with the world actually acknowledging these issues and realizing "oh shit, that shit is actually hurtful". So if this is that old, I think I can let it slide as long as Sean knows that was dumb and "a different time".
I mean it wasn't until recently that homophobic jokes began to become a no-no, so yeah.
I just saw the leaks come across my Twitter feed. Can someone please tell me these are takes or something? Or even just how old they are?
Oh sorry I didn't read all the way to the last page so I didn't know it was already brought up. That's long enough for the cast to have learned better I guess, but the reason for these "leaks" is so disgustingly obvious in my opinion. These recordings are meant to be some kind of magic bullet against Funimation and the rest of the DBZ cast in relation to Vic's bullshit.Look above, apparently these MIGHT be from Kai's recording sessions from a decade ago. It's not confirmed, but may be the consensus?
Sure, but it was still prime edgelord humour time. God knows I was a complete asshole a decade ago (in different, more reprehensible ways than I am now that is.) The discourse around hatespeech and slurs, especially the LGBT targeting ones, has also evolved dramatically over the last ten years, homophobic jokes were far more acceptable in 2009 compared to 2019.Man, you guys talk about "a decade ago" like it was 1983 and Eddie Murphy was still getting around doing Delirious or something. People knew better a decade ago.
I get that. But ten years is also long enough for someone to learn. Long enough to better themselves as a person. Now if this was 10 days or even 10 months ago then that is gonna drastically chanve my view. But 10 years? That's long enough to be a better person imo if you work at it.Man, you guys talk about "a decade ago" like it was 1983 and Eddie Murphy was still getting around doing Delirious or something. People knew better a decade ago.
Agree with all of this. These leaks are important, but they are also going to be used as a smokescreen for Vix to try and wiggle his ass out of the predicament he is in.Let's just call it as it is. (disclaimer: The following insults and accusations are simply hyperbole and not meant seriously).
Everybody currently involved could be pieces of shit.
Ron beats up women.
Chris and Sean are racist/homophobic assholes.
Jamie and Monica are vengeful bitches.
Greg is a failure as a lawyer and human being.
Shane is a wannabe who inserted himself just so people recognice him.
Marzgurl is a Dramaqueen who makes everything about herself.
Renfamous is as much a shitstirrer and cloutchaser as Yellowflashguy etc.
Dominique, Pridemore and the other cosplayers are just whores using the attention to get more famous.
Half of the accusations were out of context or made up by some rando on an internet forum.
Even if everything mentioned above was true. It wouldn't change the fact that Vic is a Diva, a creep, an abuser, possibly even a pedophile. That he will lose this case. Because nothing about this turns him being fired and the tweets into "ACTUAL MALICE".
Everybody involved had good reason to believe what they did and said was correct.
Friggin R. Kelly could be accusing him and it wouldn't change a thing.
Sounds about the time they were dubbing the Garlic Jr. saga so 1999 or 2000 would be a good guess. There's a big outtake with Mr Popo and Kami and one big tasteless/ homophobic gay joke.The Soul Eater one is titled from a commentary, likely on a DVD. The others might've been leaked bloopers from the studio, maybe by some ex-employee who gives no fuck.
Like how many years though? A decade, maybe during Kai's recordings?
This is a shit show.
Everything the past few days.
Absolutely doesn't change anything regarding Vic but oof at the trash that came out.
Let's just call it as it is. (disclaimer: The following insults and accusations are simply hyperbole and not meant seriously).
Everybody currently involved could be pieces of shit.
Ron beats up women.
Chris and Sean are racist/homophobic assholes.
Jamie and Monica are vengeful bitches.
Greg is a failure as a lawyer and human being.
Shane is a wannabe who inserted himself just so people recognice him.
Marzgurl is a Dramaqueen who makes everything about herself.
Renfamous is as much a shitstirrer and cloutchaser as Yellowflashguy etc.
Dominique, Pridemore and the other cosplayers are just whores using the attention to get more famous.
Half of the accusations were out of context or made up by some rando on an internet forum.
Even if everything mentioned above was true. It wouldn't change the fact that Vic is a Diva, a creep, an abuser, possibly even a pedophile. That he will lose this case. Because nothing about this turns him being fired and the tweets into "ACTUAL MALICE".
Everybody involved had good reason to believe what they did and said was correct.
Friggin R. Kelly could be accusing him and it wouldn't change a thing.
Sure, but it was still prime edgelord humour time. God knows I was a complete asshole a decade ago (in different, more reprehensible ways than I am now that is.) The discourse around hatespeech and slurs, especially the LGBT targeting ones, has also evolved dramatically over the last ten years, homophobic jokes were far more acceptable in 2009 compared to 2019.
Let's just call it as it is. (disclaimer: The following insults and accusations are simply hyperbole and not meant seriously).
Everybody currently involved could be pieces of shit.
Ron beats up women.
Chris and Sean are racist/homophobic assholes.
Jamie and Monica are vengeful bitches.
Greg is a failure as a lawyer and human being.
Shane is a wannabe who inserted himself just so people recognice him.
Marzgurl is a Dramaqueen who makes everything about herself.
Renfamous is as much a shitstirrer and cloutchaser as Yellowflashguy etc.
Dominique, Pridemore and the other cosplayers are just whores using the attention to get more famous.
Half of the accusations were out of context or made up by some rando on an internet forum.
Even if everything mentioned above was true. It wouldn't change the fact that Vic is a Diva, a creep, an abuser, possibly even a pedophile. That he will lose this case. Because nothing about this turns him being fired and the tweets into "ACTUAL MALICE".
Everybody involved had good reason to believe what they did and said was correct.
Friggin R. Kelly could be accusing him and it wouldn't change a thing.
(Second disclaimer: I'm pretty sure most of the VAs involved aren't people i would want to actually spend time with. A lot of them appear to be selfabsorbed and fake people. But that's what a shitton of fame and fans does to you. Doesn't mean i can't believe them over a drunk rambling idiot and an inept lawyer)
It's just them trying to desperately find something to turn the tide against the KickVic side. Make the victims/accusers seem like the bad people in all of this by using progressives own ideologies against them (ISWVers don't really give a fuck about some homophobic/racist slurs) in order to undermine their credibility.What exactly is the game plan with all these Vic stans wanting to get the other VAs fired over edgy jokes? Aren't they the crowd that eats this stuff up normally?
It's just them trying to desperately find something to turn the tide against the KickVic side. Make the victims/accusers seem like the bad people in all of this by using progressives own ideologies against them (ISWVers don't really give a fuck about some homophobic/racist slurs) in order to undermine their credibility.
I mean, uh, these jokes are literally James Gunn retreads, which has been proven to be a big nothingburger as Gunn came out of the incident more widely supported than before.
Well if this was 10 years ago this kind of comedy was more socially acceptable than today, and if it was 20 years ago then it was completely socially acceptable. It's not downplaying to state facts. If they did stuff like this recently, like Vic, then it would be a problem.Bro the amount of downplaying of these disgusting audio recordings is very surprising on resetera to say the least. Wtf? Yall acting like a decade ago was the Dark ages or some shit, Toei Animation almost lost their shit when Conan O'Brien said Majin Buu looked like a Penis, i could only imagine how there gonna react to this, jesus.
And it not really working in terms of how far the trial is and how it relates (Which doesn't). At most it just annoying evidence they have to bully the victims/accusers.It's just them trying to desperately find something to turn the tide against the KickVic side. Make the victims/accusers seem like the bad people in all of this by using progressives own ideologies against them (ISWVers don't really give a fuck about some homophobic/racist slurs) in order to undermine their credibility.