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In contrast, here's the reporting side:And here we go with the usual nonsense from the major publications:
Harris and Trump Offer a Clear Contrast on the Economy https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/16/...omy-inflation.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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CNN is Fox News-lite at this point. Walz hasn't attacked anyone's record and refused to. "Both sides!!!"
This is nuts. We just had two days in a row of Trump's "intellectual" economic speeches with no specifics, no coherence, and no intelligence. Where's the WaPo editorial about that? I'm guessing there wasn't one?And here we go with the usual nonsense from the major publications:
Yes, and even in this very thread. It's silly. The only policy discussion relevant right now is how voters react to stated policies. The details can come later, if we win. And if we even have the votes in Congress to pass anything.
As for Trump, yeah, he gets a totally free pass when he says "I'm gonna fix everything", or says nothing, or even bluntly says "I'm gonna cut Social Security and take away healthcare". But at least Project 2025 is getting scrutiny and blowback.
Even without specifics, Trump was saying what they wanted to hear. Why would they report against that?
He's gonna campaign to get the GOP to make him Speaker of the House.
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Smash burgers are a great idea! I'll have to try that as well! So, chilli, smash burgers, and tacos on the list so far lol
i wholly endorse Bison Rump 2024!
Trump might hem and haw about the election results and say they were rigged yet again, but he's not running for a 4th time. And if he does, he's maxing out at 30% of the party's support. Any faith in his ability to win will be gone after two consecutive losses. There will be dead-enders who follow him no matter what, hence the 30%, but most Republicans think of him more as a useful idiot than anything else. If he stops being useful they're just stuck with an idiot.
30 percent was literally how he won the primary in 16
He'll always get the nom if he runs and his cult outnumbers everyone else
I would love for there to be tons of legitimate parties with a variety of platforms. But I'm also a realist. She has no statistical chance of winning. Literal 0. So the other two choices are A)continuing to keep the country as an open democracy, or B)legitimately destroy it.
Statistics show she pulls votes from Dems every time. She's a spoiler, and when the genuine survival of our country can hinge on a 1% of votes, yeah I'd rather she fuck all the way off.
And here we go with the usual nonsense from the major publications:
We knew this was coming, but it's still just astonishing.....the media continues to hold Democrats to a completely different standard.
Where are all the Op-Eds about Trump's kindergarten level economic policy of "Drill Baby Drill" and "Close the Border". That's literally the sum total of his economic plan he's rolled out the past couple of weeks. He's provided zero details or specifics on tackling any single economic problem. But the media just says, "Trump rambled on while giving an economic speech." No, he did not ramble on while giving an economic speech. There were no economic policy details whatsoever.
For example, in his economic "news press conference" yesterday, what "news" did he break or "economic policy" did he unviel? Absolutely nothing. The only thing that came out of the supposed economic press conference was that he feels he's entitled to call Kamala Harris names and disrespect her. That was the only news from the conference yet the media seems completely blind on how they got bamboozled.
I'm going to stop typing because I can feel my blood pressure going up.
The media is completely compromised by Trump, they desperately want clicks and ratings and their overlords want their goddamn tax breaks. He gives them all of that, so they all have a stake in getting Trump elected again, it's good for business. Thanks capitalism!
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The DNC should introduce it for primaries. The current system would never have picked Harris. See support for lesser polling candidates. Better candidates and a shorter primary season benefits everyone.
This still seems to give trump a ton of leeway for rambling, providing interpretations of what he seemed to be trying to say, or failing to call out trump for making all these extravagant claims without detailing what he would actually do to realistically make them happen.
It's pretty ridiculous how easy reporting goes on him.
The line where it matter of factly reports that he says he will deport millions of immigrants to supposedly bring housing costs down is particularly horrid. It just instantly moves on to the next thing as if the suggestion of destroying millions of people's lives doesn't deserve any sort of scrutiny.
It is their choice.
It is not a smart choice...unless their choice is to throw away their vote.
A 3rd party candidate will never win the presidency, because this country has not fostered the conditions for that to ever happen. Nor have any of the major 3rd parties fostered a local presence to facilitate that eventual reality. The Greens, Libertarians, Working Families Party...in most regions go dormant until it's time to run for President. That will never win.
If the US, including 3rd parties, were at all interested in busting the US 2-party chokehold, then there's a lot of local, gritty, thankless hard work they could be doing.
They're not doing it.
View: https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1824477113937711346?t=zW9z8xdvPrPg4itWsSqU8Q&s=19
How did I miss Laura Ingraham using a US flag for a rug?
Can't go past them. Use the same amount of mince as a regular burger but double the Maillard. Now I just need to find a place locally that has proper deli American cheese.
I've since realised that the better joke is Bison Haggis 2024. The most offal choice.
Yeah, if more leftists could make their way into Democratic Party positions then maybe one day they could have the influence needed to bring ranked choice voting to the USA. THEN, sure, try out the third-parties. I always vote for our local Greens, precisely because I can just put Labour in second place rather than my vote vanishing into the ether.
100% plus they get to pretend they're the heroes and resistance when they get to criticize (rightfully so) every tweet or stupid thing he says. News under Democrats is boring.
Nah he got 44.9% overall in that primary, and the major faux pas of that situation is famously that a ton of non-viable candidates were too stubborn to drop out because they assumed Trump was a glass cannon and they could be the one still standing when his whole operation fell apart.
She's not even polling in most cases so I won't get too worried about it. RFK is more of a concern than she is.
Unfortunately, no. That pic is hella creepy though. Reminds me of Large Marge.
Agreed! Man am I glad that folks in this thread aren't political consultants. Biden not showing up would be disastrous.
RFK's pulling in more from Trump than Harris so I'm actually sort of alright with him on there.
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Your claims of the literal destruction of democracy ring hollow while you're upset that people are able to vote for someone other than your favorite party and then in your next post you say you're alright with the possibility that RFK Jr may be taking votes away from Trump but not Harris.
Those alternate candidates stand for ideologies and policy positions that a non-negligible potion of Americans are passionate about, even if their chance of winning the presidency is unrealistic. Nobody's being tricked into voting for RFK Jr or Jill Stein or Cornell West, etc. I think trying to force people into the two party system even harder than we already are will do more harm than any perceived good.
I would definitely be okay with votes being taken away from the person who wants to be a dictator, yeah.
I don't really care if you think it rings hollow tbh. You're acting like this is just another normal election. One candidate winning results in elections likely being done away with completely or anything resembling them, while the other ensures they continue. We're not taking about taking away votes from any run of the mill candidate but a literal wannabe dictator.
So yeah, in this specific election, making sure we can still actually vote in the future takes precedent.
I canceled my Washington Post subscription a few years ago because of the garbage their editorial board and guest writers were putting out. I could no longer financially support that organization. Which is the shame because their news reporting is actually pretty good.And here we go with the usual nonsense from the major publications:
I wanna be clear, I ain't forcing anybody to do shit. If you don't want to vote go ahead and don't vote. I've said multiple times in these threads that I have years ago given up on trying to convince people who have told me they won't be convinced. Do what you want, bookie.
But no US 3rd party has a chance of winning the presidency. That's a fact. If you want to still vote for them, go ahead. I ain't stopping nobody. But facts are facts.
Exactly. It would be the sort of thing that would lead gullible people to think that Trump's insane fan fiction rants about Biden were right.
He'll run again, other members in the GOP will tell the people "DON'T VOTE FOR HIM! MAGA ISN'T WORKING ANYMORE!" And the people will respond to that by having him win all the primaries again, and the GOP will simply go back to kissing the ring. Lather, rinse, repeat.
And here we go with the usual nonsense from the major publications:
Harris policy offers very little to their billionaire overlords who all probably have lifetime membership at Trumps golf club.
Does she really have a framed Mark Ingrham jersey because they…..have the same last name???
The only chance third-parties could win in election is for very local elections and stuff. That's the extent to which the Libertarians and Greens held any power, just in municipalities and very small positions.
Couldn't agree more. The downfall of our democracy will be all the people who couldn't see it for what it was, despite all the evidence out there.
This room makes me sad. It's one step up from the Mario basement
I've said it before, but man, the "childless" bullshit is so laughable. This is a woman who adores, respects, and builds up kids. She's a mama 100%.
Barron Trump 2044.
The right to shoot someone indiscriminately. Which is what Trump was basically proposing.
The question of who is and isn't speaking at the DNC is so low-impact that I can't imagine it being contentious. Who cares if Biden is speaking there, the Democrats should be showing that multiple living presidents belong to the party.
Honestly the shitty one is Bill Clinton from a moral perspective and he'll likely bring the house down with his speech.
Honestly the shitty one is Bill Clinton from a moral perspective and he'll likely bring the house down with his speech.
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