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US PoliERA 2019 |OT1| You down wit' NDP? (Yeah you know me!) Who's down wit' AOC? (This whole party!)
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It's a broad statement but yeah. Not a good thing. God flippin' dammit.
I always assumed Trump heavily implied Cohen lie about it to Congress. I doubt he used the words lie or told him directly what to say, but was more a kin to "Cohen you've been very loyal to me and I hope you do the right thing in the hearing."
This is why Pelosi is always so hesitant to talk about impeachment. You really have to wait until the absolute end.
I'm guessing there likely was some coordinated effort to get Cohen to lie. But it wasn't Trump directly going, "lie to Congress."
Mueller likely spoke up because of all the obstruction talk and growing impeachment calls. There's meat to the story, but it's not the clear cut obstruction Eureka! moment Buzzfeed sold it as.
Mueller likely spoke up because of all the obstruction talk and growing impeachment calls. There's meat to the story, but it's not the clear cut obstruction Eureka! moment Buzzfeed sold it as.
Yeah, absolutely. It just seems like the kind of logic they're likely to employ. "2/3 of the government agrees, only PELOSI is in the way of people getting paid!"
It's depressing but I think the "both sides" media would be happy to run with that.
Yeah, it's possible Trump "told" Cohen to lie to Congress in the way that he "told" Comey to end the Russia investigation - insofar as he heavily implied that's what he wanted Cohen to do, but didn't literally say "lie to Congress".
The new TX house speaker will not bring a bathroom bill to the floor.
People got worried when the former moderate-ish speaker retired last year because they thought he'd be replaced with a whackadoo who would put up abortion bans and bathroom bills.
I imagine our gaining 13 seats and cutting their margins helped to some extent.
I also think that TX, probably the stereotypical business Republican state, got spooked by what happened to NC. There seems to be little appetite for that bullshit there, as evidenced by his comment that the members aren't interested.
Eh, the end of All the President's Men is Woodward and Bernstein literally getting something wrong. I'm not saying these guys are on that level, but mistakes are gonna happen.
Given the import of the articles revelations, the special counsel not outright denying it could be kind of heartening.
Edit: FWIW
Your first mistake was ever expecting Mueller to save the country from Trump
Tbh I think Mueller is buying time, members of Congress were starting to get itchy and demand info from the SCO given how serious this is and Mueller found a technicality or two to calm down the waters.
Story is too big for Buzzfeed to royally fuck it up.
Indeed. Trump will not be indicted and will not be impeached. Those facts have remained unchanged since 2017.
For the citizen, all our focus should be on 2020 (Congress will work to expose the sheer breadth of corruption in this administration, as they should).
Or maybe they don't want other investigations to start based on bad info. If the dossier had not come out yet and somebody got parts of it wrong, they would do the same thing. I think it's going to be a clarification about evidence and/or potential crime specifics.
So it's just a show to try to make the Democrats the unreasonable ones.
No chance of that. These people thought they'd get away with it and lose. The evidence is probably everywhere
Pretty sure the only reason Mueller issued a correction is to keep Dems from starting impeachment proceedings over something that isn't 100% correct.
I think if he gets cleared, it's because, essentially "He was too stupid to know what he was being manipulated into doing".
Why would dems start impeachment based on nothing without nothing corroborated... ? Everyone has stated "IF TRUE . . . "
Really hope it's something bigger than what Buzzfeed reported and it actually takes down the entire trump business.
Probably. I have no expectations for Mueller, he got some Russians, Manafort gave poll data to Russians, etc. Trump just yesterday put Pelosi's life in danger because he "counterpunches" and is using hundreds of thousands of people in an effort to get a wall. I don't expect impeachment, I want a good democratic candidate.
This is also how investigations are supposed to go, that take a long time to make sure they have all the facts so they don't get caught off-guard in the court room. It's not like tv shows about police prodecurals where everything is over in 24 hours.
He's guilty as sin. But nothing is going to happen to Trump. The GOP will not do anything to him. Mitch McConnell will not allow anything to happen to him.
The entire GOP needs to go. That much is clear.
Random shit: So my cousin met Rep. Brian Mast today while my cousin was holding a free food for first responders/military BBQ at his real estate office. So I guess he ain't in DC right now.
THEY WENT TO JARED
Never gets old, at least for me.
THEY WENT TO JARED
Never gets old, at least for me.
They can try. It's not really working out, but they can try.
I really don't see them having come up with an actual, workable deal.
Luckily you have a trump announcement tomorrow at 3pm to look forward to.
It's 100% a PR stunt. I bet it will include some immigration proposal that republicans and trump himself will never accept in exchange for the wall, it's a bluff.
Yes, I think it's far more likely that it's a ploy to say "we're trying to compromise and the open border dems just won't negotiate" rather than a sincere attempt at negotiation, because if good-faith compromises were of interest to the GOP the govt would not be shut down this very moment.
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