Oct 30, 2017
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If I were flying, I'd love to find a supervisor and offer to buy a few of them lunch. Being a TSA agent already seems like a shitty job. I can't imagine the morale.

Some thirty forty percent of the country thinks these guys ought not to get paid so we can have a wall.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks for the clarification, guys.

So then if they're mandated to show up to their jobs, what's stopping them from showing up and putting in the bare minimum of effort as a sign of protest? Not that I'd ever wish for that to happen of course; just wondering what the repercussions would be for that./
Nothing's stopping them. But that's not what they chose to do, repercussions-be-damned.

Lots of parents would prefer to avoid having that discussion with a toddler if at all possible and wait until they're exposed to it when they're older. When they're that young, there's much more supervision involved and control of their environment is easier to regulate to prevent them from hearing things that they shouldn't be hearing. Then suddenly they're a captive audience at an airport where explicit music is inescapable unless the parents happen to have a pair of headphones that their kids can wear to drown it out.

It's a lose/lose for both parties for sure. :/

It really isn't. You're overestimating kids and parents. Do you know how many times I've cussed in public only to realize there were kids around? You don't get to control when your child is exposed to anything in public (even at an airport), whether its bad words, crime, death, violence, political unrest, or any combination of the aformentioned. You hope for the best and then react.

You're also not considering how very little any of this matters to a child until the parents start freaking out about it. A young child isn't going to analyze the obscene lyrics in a song (or pay much attention to background music at a busy airport with the sensory overload they're already in the middle of) as much as people in this thread are thinking, until their parents or other adults start reacting to it.

It's the same logic behind not making a big deal of it when your young child gets hurt or falls down. They don't care until you care, because at that age they're learning how to react and what to internalize by watching Mom or Dad.

Which is why all this pearl-clutching is so absurd. The only people not thinking of the children are the people demanding we think of the children. They're just abandoning all critical thinking in order to feel better than everyone else, at the expense of any empathy towards the real victims.

And let's be honest, guys? Y'all are scrambling to protect hypothetical kids from hypothetical harm. There's no evidence any children have been negatively affected by The Accursed Rap at this airport.
 
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TinfoilHatsROn

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So, again, why show up at all if they're inevitably on the chopping block for their behavior now? The best protest would be to abandon ship and look for new jobs elsewhere, since there's no telling when this government shutdown will end and these folks need money to survive.

I'm totally on the workers' side on this issue but I doubt pumping rap music is going to change anything.
Lol. Like the air traffic controllers did during the Reagan admin?
 

danm999

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Oct 29, 2017
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That's different talk.

People talked about why they were kneeling.

Occupy was talked about how splintered it was.

Yeah and they said it was because they hated the troops and the flag and America. And then the NFL banned kneeling and blacklisted Colin Kaepernick.

And nothing material was done about police brutality because of the kneeling.

It was a failure of a protest.

But if your metric was "it didn't annoy me", I guess I see how someone could call it successful.
 

OrangeNova

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Yeah and they said it was because they hated the troops and the flag and America. And then the NFL banned kneeling and blacklisted Colin Kaepernick.

And nothing material was done about police brutality because of the kneeling.

It was a failure of a protest.

But if your metric was "it didn't annoy me", I guess I see how someone could call it successful.
I never said that, congrats on putting words in my posts.

Just because nothing immediate came of it doesn't mean it was a failure. It's not black and white.
 

Lost

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ME AND LAFLAME, IS YOU NOT ENTERTAINED??????

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faceless

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THINK OF MY CHILDREN

oh, the people not getting paid might have kids too?

who gives a shit.

i just want to fly in peace.
 

Mest08

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Were none of you people kids? When I went to kindergarten, every other kid said every bad word they could think of. I'm sorry, but your little 5 year old has already heard those words. Probably should have taught them about things they may experience in public before they, you know, are in a situation where they may actually experience it.

And if your children are too young for school, I still guarantee they've heard bad words. Whether it be a customer yelling in a retail store, a random person on a cell phone, random road rage, etc. Point is, kids aren't stupid and educating before exposure is a good thing.
 

ak1287

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Oct 28, 2017
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That's . . . not cool. I understand that they're pissed, and they have every right to be. But I really don't want my little kids exposed to that.

It's one thing to protest, it's another to just not care about other people.
Your kids have already heard the words they would hear from rap.

They're probably using them already.
 

louiedog

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was driving home at about 2 am and the DJ on the radio was having his final night on the job. I don't remember all of the songs I heard but uncensored bloodhound gang sticks out. I'm guessing no one who might try and stop him was listening that late.
 

Lundren

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Imagine using your children as a scapegoat for not giving a shit about other parents not being able to feed their children.

Now imagine still believing you're a good parent.
 
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This is a decent protest. It doesn't actually stop anything but does make people aware something is up.
It sounds like the agents are showing some restraint too and likely not playing 504 Boyz in secondary screening.
 

The Real Abed

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I support this. You're not going to pay me because they won't give you money to waste on a useless wall? I'm not going to care about my really really important job that you can't afford to fire us from.

The air traffic controllers should really start all calling out definitely. We'll see how fast they reopen the government when no one can fly anywhere anymore.
 

entrydenied

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Oct 26, 2017
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That's . . . not cool. I understand that they're pissed, and they have every right to be. But I really don't want my little kids exposed to that.

It's one thing to protest, it's another to just not care about other people.

Your kids will be fine. Worry more about what Youtube and other online media is showing to them instead.
 

Akira86

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's . . . not cool. I understand that they're pissed, and they have every right to be. But I really don't want my little kids exposed to that.

It's one thing to protest, it's another to just not care about other people.
well I hope you tipped the TSA guy as you go through security though, since you're so caring and shit.
 

entrydenied

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Oct 26, 2017
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You can use the opportunity to teach your kids two lessons. One about naughty language and it's pervasiveness in popular culture and how they'll never be able to fully avoid it, and two about workers in the country getting screwed out of paychecks all because our cartoon president wants a stupid ass wall.

Yup.

"Hey kids people don't normally use language like this unless they're really really angry. And the people working at the airport now are really really angry nevauae the president has decidedly to wilfully shut down the government and they can't get paid but still have to work. Their families probably won't have enough money to go around. That's why they're angry. We should still be grateful because of they don't turn up for work we can't even get on the plane and fly to where ever we are going. So remember. Save these words for situations like these."
 

floridaguy954

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Man, wtf is up with you guys.

I don't want my 5 and 7 year old exposed to explicit content while in a public place, so obviously I want people to starve and lose their homes? Y'all need a reality check.

You think playing this music over the loudspeakers is what is going to stop the shutdown? You think they're really going to change someone's mind? Nah. If you want to protest, protest. This is just being a jackass.
Protests are meant to be disruptive, get over it.

Have you ever protested for anything in your life?
 

entrydenied

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Oct 26, 2017
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Were none of you people kids? When I went to kindergarten, every other kid said every bad word they could think of. I'm sorry, but your little 5 year old has already heard those words. Probably should have taught them about things they may experience in public before they, you know, are in a situation where they may actually experience it.

And if your children are too young for school, I still guarantee they've heard bad words. Whether it be a customer yelling in a retail store, a random person on a cell phone, random road rage, etc. Point is, kids aren't stupid and educating before exposure is a good thing.

Yup. If your children are socialising with other people or children they'll probably start picking up all these things. I mean even if they're not curse words general aggressive speech will be learnt.

I don't have any children (even if I want to adopt one there's too many obstacles as a gay man in this country) but I would teach my child about not being aggressive in the general, even if they saying "I'll table you with a chair" and not "I'll fuck you with a chair" because it's not the words themselves that are problematic but the meaning and intention.
 

LastCaress

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Oct 29, 2017
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As a group of people that have the potential to really fuck (sorry for the swear!) things up, this is one of the most benign protests they can do
 

Unseen

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Do the current radio edits cut out the drug references, Xans and whatever?

I've now been thinking what could be the most offensive and vulgar songs to play at an airport... From Wu-Tang alone I'd name Maria, Black Widow Pt.2, Domestic Violence, Wildflower, The Projects... Eazy-E and Triple Six well, discography... Poor children, the choices are endless.
 

Parch

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Nov 6, 2017
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I support this. You're not going to pay me because they won't give you money to waste on a useless wall? I'm not going to care about my really really important job that you can't afford to fire us from.

The air traffic controllers should really start all calling out definitely. We'll see how fast they reopen the government when no one can fly anywhere anymore.
I totally understand the workers frustration. The concerned parents are ridiculous. It's a harmless protest that I think is actually pretty funny, but I have serious doubt that any form of protest is going to do any good. I have no idea what they should do because I really don"t think there's anything they can do. That's the way the US system is set up. The workers are in a terrible position with no bargaining ground, and they are not as important as they think they are.

I remember when Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers. It surprised the hell out of everybody. ATC thought it would never happen because they were too important. When it did, everybody wondered how can they ever be replaced. It still happened. It certainly slowed down air traffic, but it didn't completely cripple the system like the workers thought it would.

You're dealing with Republicans here. They don't give a shit about the consequences. They don't give a shit about you. If Reagan can fire all the ATC, Trump sure as hell can fire all the TSA.
 

poklane

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nasirum

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Another day, another complete lack of sanity coming from the White House.

Thanks to the TSA workers who are still even showing up honestly.