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excowboy

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Mate it's all the #NeverCorbyn/Guardian columnist types who were conjuring up bollocks about a coup and hanging on to leadership when he didn't turf himself out of the leaders office 30 seconds after the exit poll. They want him gone ASAP.
Idk, I suppose the flip side is months of PMQs with Corbyn getting rinsed as a lame duck, but if he could ride it out? I know people are angry and want to move on, but I don't see any practical reason not to take a bit of time - at least make it look like there is some introspection happening!
 

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I've permanent spine and knee injuries that my gp basically told me I was imagining and refused to sign off on an x-ray. Can't even count the amount of times I've been fobbed off by a gp and I tend to see a different one every time now

Yeah, I know it's a busy time of year and all but GPs are stretched so thin these days you never see the same doctor anymore.

It's at the point I need to go to the doctors about my back as I can't walk the dog far anymore and I'm dreading it if just being told to put up with it.
 

IpKaiFung

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Yeah, I know it's a busy time of year and all but GPs are stretched so thin these days you never see the same doctor anymore.

It's at the point I need to go to the doctors about my back as I can't walk the dog far anymore and I'm dreading it if just being told to put up with it.

They'll shove you on painkillers for the rest of your life because that's the cheapest option for back problems.
 

Ferrasvansen

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Reminds me my own GP said my pain and tiredness was "in my head" who would keep telling me to just phone appointment as it was easier until i ended up randomly getting blood tests then sleep tests and since then found to have sleep apnoea, haemochromatosis and polycythaemia.
 

His Majesty

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RellikSK

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Don't understand the Rebecca Long-Bailey hype at all.

It's because she has been chosen to be Corbyn's successor for a while now, she even took over for him at PMQs once when it should have normally been Emily Thornberry. She isn't bad from what I've seen but isn't anything special, she would struggle uniting the party.
Out of all the Corbyn loyalists I think Angela Rayner would be the best but the party needs to move away from Corbyn somewhat imo.
 

mr-paul

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I think secretly a lot of the PLP ended up impressed by him really, I think they were expecting some kind of crazy terrorist monster.

I actually think he's fantastic. Always calm and rational when interviewed, explains his opinions and doesn't just stick to soundbites. And like Corbyn, just comes across as a kind, caring man. I think he's better than Corbyn in many ways and wonder what would have been different had he been the leftie candidate put forward in 2015 rather than Jeremy. I understand why he can't/shouldn't be leader now, but I would love to see him continue on the frontbenches for Labour, however unlikely that is.
 

PJV3

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I actually think he's fantastic. Always calm and rational when interviewed, explains his opinions and doesn't just stick to soundbites. And like Corbyn, just comes across as a kind, caring man. I think he's better than Corbyn in many ways and wonder what would have been different had he been the leftie candidate put forward in 2015 rather than Jeremy. I understand why he can't/shouldn't be leader now, but I would love to see him continue on the frontbenches for Labour, however unlikely that is.

He would have dealt with some of the issues that came up a lot damn faster, I don't think he would have had the weird little clique surrounding him as well.

Yeah, it should have been him really.
 

Puroresu_kid

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Mine is quite good in the sense they do commuter appointments so I got in last week two days after calling.

Ridiculous thing was I only wanted an open referral as I have private Healthcare via work so just need a referral so I can see a specialist for ongoing wrist pain. GP wouldn't give me one though and told me to come back in two weeks if pain still there. Didn't matter that I've had the pain for months and I have private healthcare.

Makes little sense as I'm now going to have to go back waisting the GP's time for no good reason. He could have just gave me the referral and never had to see me again.
 

PJV3

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imo the difference is probably that there is an actual issue with antisemitism within labour

There is, but I don't believe from some of the data that gets out here and there that it's much different to anywhere else, and that's with the obvious more pro Palestinian position of people in the party who go on to lose perspective etc.

There is a report coming soon so maybe we will get a proper look at what is happening.
 

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I've permanent spine and knee injuries that my gp basically told me I was imagining and refused to sign off on an x-ray. Can't even count the amount of times I've been fobbed off by a gp and I tend to see a different one every time now
Sorry to hear that man. I recently complained about my GP, she said my mental health wasn't that bad... and it was only mental not physical...
So I complained and got a apology
 

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Looks like parts of Scottish Labour is going to become a headache for British Labour. Fun times ahead.

This is what we need though, soft-Unionists in the Labour party to get their heads out their asses and accept their socialist revolution isn't coming as long as we're tied to England/UK.

You're getting Tory reign no matter if we vote 48 SNP seats in Scotland or 48 Labour. It's time to go. Many of us knew it in 2014, but welcome aboard if it took to the mess of 2019 for you to see where the UK is heading.
 

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i mean, i was a remainer, and disagree with the idea if he's implying it that most leave voters aren't racist, but voting leave isn't automatically racist, there are good left wing reasons to distrust the EU as outlined in the tweet
Guy is saying how can you call leave racist when Blair etc voted remain.... that isn't how shit works. Leave ran on a bigot as hell campaign, remain didn't. If you voted leave you are at the very least ok with bigoted shit.
 

Puroresu_kid

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This dude is posted loads in here... guy is a waste


I can't deny there will be some who had some very valid reasons for voting leave however I have no doubt you asked 100 people why they voted leave at best you would find 10 who actually had some valid reasons.

FFS just look at the leave campaign. The reasons they were pushing for brexit was "control of our borders, laws and money". That was it.

Immigration was the #1 theme they pushed and the gullible swallowed it all up.
 

Flammable D

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Guy is saying how can you call leave racist when Blair etc voted remain.... that isn't how shit works. Leave ran on a bigot as hell campaign, remain didn't. If you voted leave you are at the very least ok with bigoted shit.
The Remain campaign was being run by David Cameron and was predicated on the promises from the EU of slightly more managed migration, after he'd tried to get much more out of them in negotiations, it was hardly woke

I'm not saying they're not largely pulled in by racist policies, just that not all reasons someone voted are racist and that, divorced of the campaign, not wanting to be in the EU isn't automatically a racist opinion
 

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The Remain campaign was being run by David Cameron and was predicated on the promises from the EU of slightly more managed migration, after he'd tried to get much more out of them in negotiations, it was hardly woke

I'm not saying they're not largely pulled in by racist policies, just that not all reasons someone voted are racist and that, divorced of the campaign, not wanting to be in the EU isn't automatically a racist opinion
Read what I put. I said not all leave voters are racist, but were fine voting for a campaign that was bigoted as hell. That is 100% true

I thought you might agree with that in a way, some establishment types on the remain side just valued their money more than they hated immigrants.
Why would I agree remain was racist? Did racists vote remain? Yeah as this country is full of them. But remain itself didn't run on bigotry.
 

PJV3

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I don't think people on the left should have jumped on the Tory bandwagon to leave because they want the opposite bloody outcome and will nearly always fucking win.
 

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This'll be interesting. Wonder what Johnson and Cummings have planned.


Was a reading up on Cummings after the results came in, it's fucking odd how his moral compass is. Seems to love the nhs, and wants big spending to happen in England, unlike majority of tories, does not like FoM at all but isn't hugely bothered about immigration compared to other tories and espouses the points based system. Wants to reshape the economy but spend an enormous amount of money to do so. More then any Tory would agree too. He works with them but fucking hates with a passion most of them.

I think the power struggles between his lot and the Tory lot will be intensely interesting going forward. Right now it's advantage Cummings, wonder what will happen in a few years once the HC tories gain power once more within the party and call the shots.

Same here, and the receptionist is a bellend who will answer the phone at 07.59.59 and tell you to call back at 8am (ok, this is possibly a bit niche).

On topic - starting the Labour leadership campaign in January just feels like those at the top will have learnt nothing before rushing headlong to try and appoint a Corbyn acolyte. Why not just wait a few months? Make time for some actual consultation and listening, let Brexit happen, then have a contest based on the wider issues without having to take a prominent position on Brexit.

That might sound disengenous, but it's happening now - why fall into the trap of having to answer awkward questions on it when all you can do is create ammunition for the opposition? Also suggests they've learnt nothing from Thursday.

On a similar note, what're the chances of Andy Burnham having another go at the leadership? I'm not suggesting he's perfect (there are some questionable quotes about marriage from what I've read) but he's northern, socialist leaning, connections with New Labour (Brown much more than Blair), and not tarred by Brexit too much? Just a thought.

I can definitely see Burnham enter the scene after 2024, once he does his mayoral term and either becomes and becomes an mp or gets elected as one.

He needs to work on his presentation skills however, he is good with media and in the commons, but comes off as a little robotic. Its nothing major, but if he is going up against the likes of Boris, he needs to be a bit more flexible and domineering. Has a great look though alongside Starmer.
 
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PJV3

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The tories have a massive fucking majority now, can we have some people on the news who want to hold them to account. I'm sick of these fucking polo club cunts.
 
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