I wouldn't be so certain. My partner's mother is someone affected by this and she is still refusing to vote Labour. So yes, they really are going to vote against it because they're that stupid.
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I wouldn't be so certain. My partner's mother is someone affected by this and she is still refusing to vote Labour. So yes, they really are going to vote against it because they're that stupid.
Zac Goldsmith's pamphlet is amazing. He's in Richmond Park, but there's nothing about his party being the main force behind Brexit (because it's an ultra-remain area), there's nothing about Heathrow's expansion which he promised to stop, there's nothing about growing the business or the economy... It's all about how he's super pro-environment. He even voted once to punish people who are mean to animals harder (not hunting of course, just, non-descript animal cruelty thingies).
He even changed the colour: he's not conservative blue, the visuals are all green. If it were not for the little "conservative" logo at the bottom, I would have though that was the pamphlet for Caroline Lucas' new boytoy.
He even changed the colour: he's not conservative blue, the visuals are all green. If it were not for the little "conservative" logo at the bottom, I would have though that was the pamphlet for Caroline Lucas' new boytoy.
If theres one shred of light for the polls (beyond their general reliability in years past) it's that new voters probably aren't signed up to be asked.
A lot of it, when you actually go through it, is actually fundamentally promising not to make things even worse. Take this little diddy:
What's that? Your chief political issue is going to fundamentally undermine the ability to staff the second biggest political issue? We've got a fix for that!
Meanwhile on the disabilities, a lot of it is waffle about they'll do something, but don't really specify what or how. The usual we care bollocks that'll last just long enough before they screw people over:
As a later follow-up:
So actually only around 24.66 million a year. Meanwhile the 1.4 billion over 5 years - or 280 mil a year - previously promised to CAMHS has been an infamous clusterfuck.
Obviously that's more mental stuff, but I'd take a similar wariness to anything else they're offering
On that first one, this is why the Oxford comma is important:
I think the Tory Manifesto will give a bit of a bump for the Tory party, not a massive one but it'll be there. Even if you pointed out the flaws in it a lot of minds are already made up with those voters and they aren't likely to change.
Seeing how Jo Swinson has been seen over the last few days may result in a migration of Lib Dems to Labour voters, especially now that a Second Referendum has been promised under Labour, it's a compromise that could work.
So I predict that the overall vote will narrow a bit over the next week, maybe to 8 points difference or thereabouts. But we'll see.
What matters is to keep campaigning, and get potential voters activated as much as you can. It's a mountain to climb but mountains have been climbed before :)
Seeing how Jo Swinson has been seen over the last few days may result in a migration of Lib Dems to Labour voters, especially now that a Second Referendum has been promised under Labour, it's a compromise that could work.
So I predict that the overall vote will narrow a bit over the next week, maybe to 8 points difference or thereabouts. But we'll see.
What matters is to keep campaigning, and get potential voters activated as much as you can. It's a mountain to climb but mountains have been climbed before :)
If only the papers would haul the bullshit Tory manifesto over the coals and expose the rubbish.
I bet the costing of it is simply "BREXIT DIVIDEND".
And how cowardly to duck the social care issue pretty much completely. Cross party consensus, fucking bullshit. Trust us, yeah? We'll have a majority but rather than make the difficult choice we'll just kick the can and try and bring others on board to share the blame on a few years.
I bet the costing of it is simply "BREXIT DIVIDEND".
And how cowardly to duck the social care issue pretty much completely. Cross party consensus, fucking bullshit. Trust us, yeah? We'll have a majority but rather than make the difficult choice we'll just kick the can and try and bring others on board to share the blame on a few years.
Their claim is that they've 'restored the nation's finances'. Nevermind the national debt is literally only a couple of percent lower than its absolute peak a few years back.
And thats after selling off some of the shares brown got in exchange for the bailouts.
Hope they don't raise it before my wife needs to renew her spouse visa - bad enough paying £400 per year for the current nhs surcharge. :\
"We want to attract the best and the brightest to our country... Fuck you, pay us."
In other words you'd rather condemn everyone to a Tory government than doing something practical. Also there is a big difference between being electable and having to compromise everything. Someone needs to beat the Tories and if the Corbynite cannot after two tries think of the people who will suffer in that time.
Brown, Miliband and Corbyn. Hardly the same person or politics being forward in the past decade.
is the solution to panic, overcorrect and become the democratic party of the UK by constantly meeting the Tories in the middle as they keep moving right or should they actually build on the current model that is popular, figure out how to address the challenges in the country and not just tinker around the edges?
If people just want a Tony Blair tribute act they can vote for it. I won't.
How the fcuk is wolverhampton a swing seat?
That City is dead and how anyone there could vote Tory I have no idea.
That City is dead and how anyone there could vote Tory I have no idea.
Optimistic.
The Tory manifesto is promising to protect the integrity of our elections from outside interference while the Tory party suppresses a report in to outside interference in our elections.
The one good thing about social media is sometimes things blow up so much they can't be totally ignored. But I probably am being too optimistic about this one, hopefully one of the parliamentary committees atleast talk to him.
Yes. BBC is propaganda. The general population won't care. For some reason. Racism and isolationism is a powerful drug here it seems.
Only one of two parties can win a general election. The Labour Party has a proud tradition of being a centre left party to combat the right wing Tories. It needs to be a proper centre left party. It needs a sensible program that isn't taking the extreme spending risks. It can still take the same views on taxation. It can still look to be socially progressive. It should not try to compromise on immigration. BUT there has to be a sensible approach. Otherwise a Labour Party that wants to spend so much. Nationalise so much isn't going to win any election and the only alternative is a right wing Tory government.
I would argue that the Corbyn types have hijacked a party that historically has little to do with this type of far left politics or at least posturing. Other than the awful Foot period Labour has rarely been this far left of centre certainly in its positioning or messaging.
Tories get an easy ride on everything but especially fiscal matters, the evidence is against them but it doesn't matter.
There's no point trying to shame the Conservatives about the fact they never got rid of the deficit because the UK running a deficit was never a problem to begin with. Because it doesn't matter the Tories can just drop this rhetoric at any time without consequences.
Massive support for Brexit and as it's been Labour for as long as I've been alive, and long before that, I believe... It's one of the biggest examples of being forgotten and abandoned, so people are just sick the death of it. That being said, if not for Brexit party, it'd probably stay Labour, but think the Labour vote will suffer the most from that, so likely to be Con gain, sadly.
After a big slump yesterday in the voting registration figures, the world needed this.
Tories get an easy ride on everything but especially fiscal matters, the evidence is against them but it doesn't matter.
I always find this baffling, were did the money go. I guess you could perhaps say Labour polices, investment caught up to some degree but it really doesn't explain the rest, what happened that sees it increase so much when apparently Tories aren't investing much and cutting back. Does our economy just suck or something?
Using the term sensible is emotive but ultimately meaningless without context. Is it sensible that people are sleeping rough? Is it sensible that parents are having to choose between feeding themselves and their kids? Is it sensible to oppress the vulnerable and minorities?
Being very simplistic they cut taxes and reduced growth by cutting spending in the aftermath of a depression.
For a better more educated idea, Krugman(nobel laureate for economics) addresses it here
Paul Krugman: The austerity delusion
Yeah don't think of the increase in debt as the UK spending more, think of it as the UK generating less so even if it spends less, the gap widens.
The lack of investment by the government just means wasting more money on things like outsourcing and all those assessments for fit to work shite.
Sensible to to the privileged, I'm sure. I consider it a dog whistle.
Incidentally, if anyone would help upvote.
deficit went up massively due to the global financial crisis and the consequences of the biggest recession since the 30s (much less tax money coming in, much more unemployment benefit going out), then growth out of the recession was very sluggish under the tory government due to avoiding stimulus which continues that for longer. remember osborne took us back into the recession brown got us out of. that explains the big jump between 2008-2013 in the %gdp graph (net debt is completely useless measure due to effects of inflation)
since then ultimately everything costs more each year due to an ageing population and the tories also balanced the spending cuts with substantial tax cuts on personal allowance, corporation tax and scrapping brown's 50p rate.
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