This. He's a traitor. Trump is not doing any of this for the good of America. It's for himself and other criminally rich oligarchs (Putin). This is part of an overall strategy to undermine and destroy US standing worldwide.
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U.S. violates JCPOA; Trump withdraws from Iran nuclear deal & reimposes economic sanctions (UPDATE)
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Because it's naive to think a bloodthirsty regime like the Iranian one will keep his side of the deal.
It lets them enjoy the removal of the sanctions while secretly building their nuclear force.
Bringing back the sanctions will at least slow them down until there is a better solution.
Republican voters everywhere earnestly believe that's a smart answer to a dumb question.
That's why this nation is a lost cause.
How much do they care about American sanctions? Hopefully, a European deal is enough to deter them.
The US seems to want to go into Iran, but this time they wouldn't even have the small backing that they did with Iraq.
No. They are going to instruct their proxies in Syria to launch attacks against Israeli military targets inside Israel. Iran doesn't act directly, they use proxies so they can deny involvement. I don't think anyone will be surprised when it happens.
It's a shit move by Trump and it's only going to inflame the region.
He's laughing cause there's something to take the spotlights off of his corruption investigations.
Semantics btw, technically no one can claim Jerusalem without it being under occupation.
More Iranian scientists, engineers and academics about to be murdered in front of their families by Mossad car bombs. Incredibly angry right now.
Really? How so? Be very specific.
Ever notice that Trump and his base have no ideas how to replace the things they pull out of or want to? Hell, it is 8 years and I still haven't seen their viable replacement for the ACA. And his base remains ever subservient, they never even ask for one.
If I'm North Korea, I'm never making a deal with the U.S. How could they ever trust us under Trump? How could anyone?
I don't believe for one second that this is calculated move to degrade America's standing. Trump is to shortsighted to accomplish such a complex plan. But he cares deeply about satisfying his fanbase AND it upsets Obama's legacy, so it had to be done.
So tales from your ass, basically.
Do you have any proof? Against the words, say, of actual nuclear inspectors?
"They won't keep their side of the deal so let's pull out and do it first"
Everyone should nuke up so the US doesn't fuck you over.
No, I don't.
I am just posting to possibly explain that CNN thing.
but 5 countries (germany, UK, france, china, russia) and the internation atomic energy agency has confirmed time after time that the deal is effective, and iran has complied to it. but i guess you know better.
people remember the lessons of iraq perfectly. the national security apparatus remembers that it got a shitload of money and authority to pursue a war on terror, the military industrial complex remembers that it grew even fatter on defense contracts, the media remembers lots of lucrative bloody coverage of a foreign war, and the administration remembers how the last deeply unpopular republican president got reelected off the back of idiotic patriotism.
most of all, they all remember that there were no consequences for people like them. nobody went to jail for lying to get us into a war, no media figure was fired or marginalized for cheerleading the worst foreign policy disaster of the modern age, nobody was prosecuted for torturing prisoners of war, nobody even questioned drone striking foreign civilians or american citizens. they all reaped huge rewards and the only people who suffered were the grunts on the ground and the general populace who paid for it all.
our system is specifically built to encourage things like this, so why on earth wouldn't they do it again?
Not sure how he can expect to make a deal with North Korea when it's clear that America's word is not worth shit.
Fuck this clown. It's pretty amazing how consistently wrong he is about EVERYTHING.
Fuck this clown. It's pretty amazing how consistently wrong he is about EVERYTHING.
This is precisely the sort of dangerous political posturing that serves as a megaphone to the entire world that the United States cannot be trusted to carry on committing to even the base foundations of hard-fought negotiated geopolitical deals without suddenly turning around and reneging on them whenever a new occupant (especially a mad one who doesn't think much further ahead than how many brownie points his base can give him) waltzes into the White House.
Point raised by an analyst on LBC just now (he wasn't claiming Iran are doing anything nefarious):
Inspectors have to give 24 days notice to enter any facility.
Is that seen as a fairly standard amount of notice for these sort of inspections?
This is concerning though and I'd hope that cooler heads from the other signatories bring it back in order somehow soon.
Inspectors have to give 24 days notice to enter any facility.
Is that seen as a fairly standard amount of notice for these sort of inspections?
This is concerning though and I'd hope that cooler heads from the other signatories bring it back in order somehow soon.
I wanna know the_turd's reaction but I don't wanna risk losing any brain cells, anyone willing to take one for the team?
Because it's naive to think a bloodthirsty regime like the North Korean one will keep his side of the deal.
It lets them enjoy the removal of the sanctions while secretly building their nuclear force.
Bringing back the sanctions will at least slow them down until there is a better solution.
I'm almost 100% confident that the US military has been directly responsible for far more civilian deaths (I'm not even talking about deaths as a result of sectarian violence or from terror groups that have flourished due to actions of the US) this century, than the Iranian regime.
I love how you don't seem to really understand the terms of the deal lol. Do you realise that Iran was closer to a bomb before signing the deal than they are now?
Everyone calm down. I highly doubtful there will be a war. If it's anything like tpp and other countries decide to stay in the deal I doubt much will change. At least in the short term. Remember just a few weeks ago we were talking about a global trade war and nothing came of it.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/china-said-in-talks-to-build-small-nuclear-reactors-for-iran/
Oh what crap, it's been obvious since the campaign.
Oh what crap, it's been obvious since the campaign.
Jesus Christ; this was expected but it is still horrifying and shocking. The global ramifications of a war with Iran will be longterm, devastating and painful. You need a revolution America, your so-called "democracy" is full of holes, and simply voting Democrat is not going to provide any longterm solutions to a state that has engaged in almost nonstop warfare over the past century.
On a separate note - and excuse my ignorance on this - but what kind of solutions can the EU provide where a deal with Iran is concerned? Is a deal between the EU and Iran even possible considering its relationship with the US? Is there any possibility of the EU reconsidering its relationship with the US for the sake of global stability?
On a separate note - and excuse my ignorance on this - but what kind of solutions can the EU provide where a deal with Iran is concerned? Is a deal between the EU and Iran even possible considering its relationship with the US? Is there any possibility of the EU reconsidering its relationship with the US for the sake of global stability?
Now that they cant fear monger North Korea to fund the military they need a new target. It just so happens s that the Iran deal cover that and throws something else Obama did under the bus.
Gas has already increased a bit more than .30 if it goes to .40, .50, .60 it will definitely affect a large amount of people.
The super rich, corporations, and industrialists are the only ones being currently represented by the Government.
Everything he does hurts the average American. It makes the world a more dangerous place. Its ignorant, just like all the people who voted or didn't and let this happen.
Gas has already increased a bit more than .30 if it goes to .40, .50, .60 it will definitely affect a large amount of people.
The super rich, corporations, and industrialists are the only ones being currently represented by the Government.
Everything he does hurts the average American. It makes the world a more dangerous place. Its ignorant, just like all the people who voted or didn't and let this happen.
I'd assume they're all screaming joyously and praising their "strong" leader.
I ain't checking though - heard enough awful opinions today, haha.
Just pointing out very, very recent history. Interesting to see so many plug their ears to the sound of the war drums warning up, as if we have never seen this kind of build up before.
a very important point. saudi arabia and israel in their hate for iran are willing to do anything. convincing trump to get out of the deal was the biggest thing they've done yet.
posting any such stuff just derails and doesn't contribute in any positive way to the thread
not meant to thread police but what would be the collective benefit from doing so?
24 days notice for facilities that aren't declared nuclear sites; for those they can enter when they please.
I wonder how Trump's white supremacist base views this.
On one hand, it fucks over brown people. On the other hand the Israeli's love it.
On one hand, it fucks over brown people. On the other hand the Israeli's love it.
You seriously believe this is solely because Israel wants America to attack Iran? This has been the plan for decades.
That new military hardware isn't going to get tested on brown people all by itself
The United States is going to nuke someone eventually, they might as well nuke us first.