What does the ME in MERS stand for again?The swine flu and one other of those that I'm forgetting didn't even fucking come from China.
What does the ME in MERS stand for again?The swine flu and one other of those that I'm forgetting didn't even fucking come from China.
Friend posted this on Facebook:
"People that are racist and attack Asians over the coronavirus are idiots. That being said, I understand the anger/confusion people are having towards the Chinese and other Asians. This virus would not have started if Chinese people didn't eat live exotic animals in Wuhan. This virus would have been contained if the Chinese government acted right away. This virus would have been localised if Chinese people didnt break quaritine and travel the world. (Italy started with Chinese couple, Korea started with Chinese international studends breaking quarintine) If I lost a family member due to the irresponsible actions of the Chinese governement and people, I would be pretty mad too. Again, these racists people are complete idots. But racist people have always been racist and they just found a motive for their disgraceful belief. But at the same time, the Chinese are responsible for a lot of this chaos."
For the record, he's Asian.
I in no way support calling the virus Chinese. I am curious as to how we can battle the Chinese narrative that the US Army planted the virus in China?
LMAO, The Spanish Flu started in Kansas (USA). Who writes these messages?
I in no way support calling the virus Chinese. I am curious as to how we can battle the Chinese narrative that the US Army planted the virus in China?
I in no way support calling the virus Chinese. I am curious as to how we can battle the Chinese narrative that the US Army planted the virus in China?
The Huanan market is where the first known outbreak happened, back in Dec. 2019. But there are indications that the disease had been spreading since November so it's looking more and more unlikely that that's the origin of the virus.I am not advocating at all for this to be called "Chinese Virus" or flu or whatever -- so many horrible implications and slippery slope issues to solely attributing the problem to one country -- however, I'm honestly curious as to one thing: am I misinformed, or is the origin of some of these super-flu bugs not traceable back to ingestion of some of the animals mentioned in this tweet? (i.e. bats specifically). Aren't the so-called "wet meat markets" problematic for disease?
It's not a Chinese narrative; it's just something that some random idiot came up with. The official Chinese stance doesn't blame the US at all.I in no way support calling the virus Chinese. I am curious as to how we can battle the Chinese narrative that the US Army planted the virus in China?
Why is it necessary to come up with your own pet names? It's recognizably called Covid-19.yeah dude guys, if we want to be techinical about this, it came from a fucking wild animal. Maybe call it bat virus?
I in no way support calling the virus Chinese. I am curious as to how we can battle the Chinese narrative that the US Army planted the virus in China?
I hear that for those that practice BS monitoring. The problem is that a vast majority of the Chinese population believes any bullshit the CCP spews. They shouldn't be polluting the infosphere with their support of false narratives.It sounds so ridiculous that it doesn't need to be battled. It's like Trump bullshit - the people that want to believe it are going to believe it no matter what anyone says, especially the US itself. I have to imagine that reasonable folks smell it as bullshit.
It already has a name though. Why again do you want to associate Wuhan and Wuhan people with this thing?I see no real issue with calling it the Wuhan virus considering that is where all the evidence is pointing towards. There are people who object to this labelling, and I think that unfortunately undermines the valid criticisms of labelling it a Chinese virus.
If it's the same bat from Contagion, it's on site with that motherfucker.yeah dude guys, if we want to be techinical about this, it came from a fucking wild animal. Maybe call it bat virus?
Friend posted this on Facebook:
"People that are racist and attack Asians over the coronavirus are idiots. That being said, I understand the anger/confusion people are having towards the Chinese and other Asians. This virus would not have started if Chinese people didn't eat live exotic animals in Wuhan. This virus would have been contained if the Chinese government acted right away. This virus would have been localised if Chinese people didnt break quaritine and travel the world. (Italy started with Chinese couple, Korea started with Chinese international studends breaking quarintine) If I lost a family member due to the irresponsible actions of the Chinese governement and people, I would be pretty mad too. Again, these racists people are complete idots. But racist people have always been racist and they just found a motive for their disgraceful belief. But at the same time, the Chinese are responsible for a lot of this chaos."
For the record, he's Asian.
Absolutely we need to discuss it all and find a way to help going forwardAgreed but also kinda hypocritical people are calling an end to those while turning a blind eye to animal factories elsewhere
I mean sure, if you also wanna discuss how viruses are coming from north american animals as well.
I see no real issue with calling it the Wuhan virus considering that is where all the evidence is pointing towards. There are people who object to this labelling, and I think that unfortunately undermines the valid criticisms of labelling it a Chinese virus.
Well observedThe only thing donald trump can't be blamed for is where it came from, so this is what's going to be the messaging for the rest of the year.
LMAO, The Spanish Flu started in Kansas (USA). Who writes these messages?
Start saying that it's made of ribs. Then it's a space race to eat it.While we're at it, how can we battle the narrative that the Moon is made of green cheese?
the moon is clearly made out of the lik'm'stiks from fun dip and i won't hear otherwiseStart saying that it's made of ribs. Then it's a space race to eat it.
I mean let's not forget that it is wet market culture which enabled the virus to mutate, as far as we know, and that China's government needs to address this. It does need to be flagged up... just not used for generalisations like good. And it's not like that culture is unique/isolated to China. I think they have banned it already?carriers of Covid-19 in China were conduits for the virus, not the creators, its clearly racist to blame an entire population, especially now with the increase in hate crimes.
This man is responsible for exacerbating hostile sentiment against south americans, 2 massacres last year, he just doesnt stop
Cletus isn't going to care what kind of Asian he is when he's fucking bashing his brains in.Friend posted this on Facebook:
"People that are racist and attack Asians over the coronavirus are idiots. That being said, I understand the anger/confusion people are having towards the Chinese and other Asians. This virus would not have started if Chinese people didn't eat live exotic animals in Wuhan. This virus would have been contained if the Chinese government acted right away. This virus would have been localised if Chinese people didnt break quaritine and travel the world. (Italy started with Chinese couple, Korea started with Chinese international studends breaking quarintine) If I lost a family member due to the irresponsible actions of the Chinese governement and people, I would be pretty mad too. Again, these racists people are complete idots. But racist people have always been racist and they just found a motive for their disgraceful belief. But at the same time, the Chinese are responsible for a lot of this chaos."
For the record, he's Asian.
If you're living in the west as an Asian, in the interests of self preservation, we should band together for this. Not sure if white supremacists will be asking for my nationality before bashing me for being Chinese, or if they'd stop because I was actually from HK or Vietnam. They can barely tell us apart as it is.Diaspora solidarity isn't possible on this topic because a lot of complicated, divisive stuff has been happening in the Asian / Chinese community.
for example, I regularly see my own people, Hong Kongers, and Hong Kong media, who are absolutely delighted by Trump's statement because of the way China has been treating Hong Kong.
it sucks but it's also complicated
Diaspora solidarity isn't possible on this topic because a lot of complicated, divisive stuff has been happening in the Asian / Chinese community.
for example, I regularly see my own people, Hong Kongers, and Hong Kong media, who are absolutely delighted by Trump's statement because of the way China has been treating Hong Kong.
it sucks because this isn't the first time anti-China sentiment from Republicans and HKers lines up like this, but it's also complicated
Not only is "Chinese virus" a xenophobic term, it's also incorrect, since we already have a name for this virus: Covid-19. If we really want to pick our own name for this virus, "Trump virus" makes more sense, since his incompetence is directly responsible for the outbreak and deaths in the US.
I don't why it's 'racist' to identify the virus with the place it originated from? i don't even believe in it's stigmatic potential :/
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
We're not going to win a branding war against Trump, the GOP and the right wing media machine.If I were Biden/on Biden's team, I'd come out with something like this:
Make it about him.
If I were Biden/on Biden's team, I'd come out with something like this:
Make it about him.
We're not going to win a branding war against Trump, the GOP and the right wing media machine.
It has a name, and maybe more importantly, most people know it already by "coronavirus", which might not be the most scientifically accurate thing, but it ain't gonna get Asian people murdered and it's not gonna help the GOP deflect blame.
No. That's playing the GOP's game, which Democrats are horrifically inept at.
We try not to do that anymore, for various reasons. First it can be fucking racist (although I'm sure people are still absolutely dying to defend the practice). Second, it's actually detrimental to health professionals learning about the viruses/diseases because the names don't mean anything.I don't why it's 'racist' to identify the virus with the place it originated from? i don't even believe in it's stigmatic potential :/
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
I don't why it's 'racist' to identify the virus with the place it originated from? i don't even believe in it's stigmatic potential :/
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
I don't why it's 'racist' to identify the virus with the place it originated from? i don't even believe in it's stigmatic potential :/
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
Pretty good name for a sports team "Wuhan Virus"
China is not trying to pick a fight with America, America is trying to pick a fight with China.
Nathan McDermott @natemcdermott
Trump only started calling the "Chinese Virus" within the last two days.
Between January and March 15th, he referred to it as the "coronavirus", at least on Twitter anyway, 41 times.
Since March 16th he hasn't called it the "coronavirus" once.
I note this, not because it's the most important thing in the world right now, but because when he and others act like they've always called it that it's clearly not true.
At some point, for his own calculations, he decided it'd be better it call it something else.
2:57 PM - Mar 18, 2020
Nick Confessore @nickconfessore
Somewhat surprising to me that they didn't pivot to this messaging a little sooner. https://twitter.com/natemcdermott/status/1240350680637980672 …
3:34 PM - Mar 18, 2020