Fair enough.
I'd say it's very likely that he would leave Sweden asap. If A$AP Rocky thinks it is likely that he will be convicted why wouldn't he stay out of reach for Sweden for 10 years (the statute of limitations for aggravated assault)?
That's fair. There's been a case filed against the instigator by one of Rocky's bodyguards, so we'll see if he gets charged too
Kim has been able to channel the special relationship that she's formed with White Supremacists into accomplishing good for a few very fortunate people. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't look past the irreparable harm her partners are causing to millions while she chooses to stay silent to maintain that relationship. I'm sure that she, probably you and maybe many others think that trade is worth it but I can't reconcile legitimatizing someone like Trump as an ally to justice and prison reform while at the same time kids are sitting in cages.
"they barely went too far" 🤔🤔🤔
I'm not apologizing for assault, the kid started a fight and they ended it. Ever been outside and witnessed real cause and effect?
I get that but still. I don't see what they did as any worse than what the guy was doing. The fact that he got the worst end of it doesn't change that.
It doesn't really matter. Being victim of a crime doesn't allow you to commit a crime. That someone had it coming is a poor defense.
Not how our laws work here in Sweden, you don't get to play Rambo no matter what. They were a larger group and could have deescalated the situation but instead threw Jackass onto the ground before curbstomping him. Here, that's assault. Maybe even aggravated assault.
When the "crime" is whooping somebody who was following, harassing and throwing shit at you then I don't know that it needs much defense.
I'm not really sure what shit it is I'm supposed to think will fly? Also I was not arguing from a moral perspective but from a Swedish legal one. It is pretty obvious that Swedish laws apply in Sweden and not elsewhere. It also should be obvious that American laws are irrelevant to this case.
It's clearly a shit application of the law. Can we confirm if that street punk is being detained like Rocky has been? There's copious amounts of recorded evidence that the person harassed and assaulted Rocky and crew. What they did amounts to self defense, not their fault the punk's coward ass friend turned tail and ran making it 2 on 1.
Don't know I'm sorry to say, but I can't see the judges being that lenient on them even in the context when they see that footage, to any observer that just looks violent as hell. Depending on if or if not the man they beat got damages, I am reading that it can vary between 6 months of jail up to 2 years?
From what little I know the fact that they kept kicking him when he was already on the ground makes it pretty hard for him to simply get away with a fine I guess.
I'm in Canada and I'd be ashamed of the prosecutor that views that tape and decides to pursue legal action against Rocky. They did text book deescalation steps and continuously created distance with the assailant. They better also be pursuing the street kid on the same or more serious charges.
I agree Rocky and his team handled it well until they decided to assault a person who was down on the ground. Once you step over the line it doesn't really matter.
Sounds rough. It's really dangerous to travel internationally without understanding the laws in whatever country you're visiting, they probably thought they were in the right to retaliate since the other guy started it.
the kid is going to be charged too from what i'm reading, but while the exact charge hasn't been determined yet, it will be a lesser one. which is reasonable. even though he was being very annoying, he didn't use much force to speak of at all. the severity of an assault charge in sweden is determined by how much force you're using
I doubt he'll have to sit in prison. Up to the court in the end.
They are speaking of the time limit of the charges going old, not the duration of the possible sentence.
Yeah, the whole "stand your ground" thing about self-defense is not viewed the same here. It's okay to defend yourself, nobody argues with that at all, but to go suddenly on the offensive against your attacker instead of just disengaging when possible and call the authorities is frowned upon.
That must absolutely baffle Trump who's so used to be able to pardon the worst of the worst the American country got.
it's not so much stand your ground as it is that US law gives some leeway for loosing your mind a bit in the heat of passion. We actually had a case somewhat similar to this where I lived where a man was jumped by a group of other guys and he beat one of them to death. The charges were eventually dropped against him iirc.
Im sorry but it looked pretty light? He was on the ground and they gave him a few more shots but it was far from the worst you could do to someone on their back. The guy showed that he wouldn't stop approaching them regardless of the dozen warnings he received. Sometimes you get exactly what you're bargaining for. Nothing weird about it other than the weirdo who kept approaching them.
Black people that are global superstars took a beating? When?
Usually I wouldn't give celebrities grief for stuff like this, she's not inclined to do anything if she doesn't want to so doing something with her fame is generally a positive. My attitude isn't directed just at her which is why I said "Kardashians" plural because between her, Kanye, Caitlyn, etc. what we have is an entire family that seems to put their celebrity profile before the public good. I can't completely give her the benefit of the doubt that she really cares about justice reform and not just making herself a celebrity hero when she's so silent on ever other issue regarding justice and her cohorts in this venture are doing everything in their power to turn this country into a place where folks who look like her aren't welcome while she gives them shoutouts on Twitter.
She has been for many years now so I'm not sure where the surprise is.
It matters because you questioned if the "energy was kept the same" for beatings of black people in other countries in Europe compared to ASAP. The very obvious difference between these cases is that ASAP is a global superstar and will therefore draw more attention and energy. The comparison is completely moot.
that is a horrible story. but I don't see how it has any relevance in this case? bulgaria is miles apart culturally from scandinavia.
