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Trump refuses to release Democratic memo
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Here's what a redacted memo that the white house would approve of looks like
TRUMP [______________________________________] is [___________________________________________________] a very [_____________________________________________________] very [____________________________________] good [____________________________________________________________________________] person, and [____________________________________________________________] INNOCENT [______________________]
TRUMP [______________________________________] is [___________________________________________________] a very [_____________________________________________________] very [____________________________________] good [____________________________________________________________________________] person, and [____________________________________________________________] INNOCENT [______________________]
I can't believe you people don't finally get it. Nothing that makes him look bad matters as long he is supported by a party with a majority but without any morals in a country with a totally toothless opposition party.
This will be forgotten after the next tweet lowering the bar of 'presidential', unfathomable legislation or another book about the chaos in the white house.
Now he just made this a way bigger story. The Nunes memo had the FBI and DOJ recommend against releasing it, he released it anyway. The Demo was voted on unanimously by Reps and Dems both, the FBI and DOJ haven't said anything about it having a security risk, and he refuses for the hilariously phony reason of "security concerns".
The transparency of his bias would be funny if it wasn't so childish. This is going to come out no matter what, all he's done is make it look like he's trying to hide something.
The transparency of his bias would be funny if it wasn't so childish. This is going to come out no matter what, all he's done is make it look like he's trying to hide something.
That would give Trump and Nunes and other people like them exactly what they want. They can turn the story back on the democrats and accuse them for being leakers and likely try to go after them for leaking classified information. That is likely what Trump hopes to happen with the refusal to release this memo. I really hope no one falls for such an obvious ruse because now they can very easily paint a picture of 'What is Trump hiding' with him refusing to release the memo. It will put more political pressure on him as long as they don't fuck it up.
Leaking information with classified information in it, is pretty bad and is pretty much treason.
What if the Republicans leak it and try to pin it on the Democrats? I mean, if that's what they hope happens what's stopping Nunes from getting a stooge to leak it? Dems don't need to fall for a ruse if the Republicans will trigger the mousetrap and pin it on them anyhow.
I agree. Dont fuck it up by leaking it.
Just play by the rules and wait to see what recommendations the FBI and DOJ give.
It contains classified information because it's directly contesting Nunes' memo, which contained classified information. You had no issues releasing that one, despite deep concerns from DOJ and FBI. Why is that, Trump?
Such fucking flagrant bullshit.
Heck, the Nunes memo was 3.5 pages, and we know he didn't read that. 10 pages? Might as well ask him to run a marathon in his eyes.
He didn't write this. Trump hasn't used "whereupon" in his life.
Hey, I believe he dictated the last line. That counts!
Like, literally all Donald has to do is never be scared of something and let it release and let the chips fall where they may. Don't respond to anyone, don't talk about things unless directly asked, etc.
But he's so thin skinned he telegraphs everything that he knows will harm him like a 4 year old trying to tell you they didn't eat the crayon with crayon all over their face.
But he's so thin skinned he telegraphs everything that he knows will harm him like a 4 year old trying to tell you they didn't eat the crayon with crayon all over their face.
It would be beyond fantastic if the Dems said, "OK, we'll fix it," and then just increased the font sizes, took out any "big words" and added pictures of Trump having fun in the Fire Truck.
That's the entire play, to create a "both sides" narrative bullshit..
trump/nunes & co decided to create a memo and keep the minority dems in the dark. They let out some bullshit, which the dems didn't want to have out there, but felt the responsibility to correct it.
There shouldn't been ANY memo in the first place.
IIRC technically it can be read into the record at this point, which publically releases it officially with no chance for the White House to do anything. The most famous example of this is the Pentagon Papers being read into the record by Senator Mike Gravel.. btw, which was linked to you guessed it, Watergate.
Can't wait for the Reform Party and Libertarian Party to get in on the memo action
Right?! Or that this schoolyard shit is being paid for by the tax payers. And while they fuck around with this shit DACA, infrastructure and VA overhaul is ignored. Let Mueller do his fucking job and stop obstructing assholes.
The FBI had public objections to the GOP memo as well. For those that argued in favor of transparency over security concerns then, in the WH, media and public, the same should apply here.
Iirc their statement on the Republican memo was that it was fundamentally inaccurate due to omissions. They didn't say any of its content would "raise national security or law enforcement concerns if released publicly" as they are here.
The Dem memo probably goes too far in saying what other justification they used for pegging Carter Page as a foreign agent, stuff that would reveal informants, methods, other targets, etc.
The issue is that he ignored those concerns when he decided to release the Nunes memo. He then went about grandstanding about how they (he) caught the Dems red-handed in making up everything about the Russian investigation and that everything was a hoax, despite the fact that the memo didn't say any of that. It just suggested that the Dems may have been less than forthcoming about how they applied for FISA warrants and continued pushing the narrative that the Dems fully funded the Steele Dossier so that also can't be credible.
So security concerns aren't important for a memo he THINKS (and I emphasize thinks because remember, he didn't actually read the memo) absolves him of any wrong-doing meanwhile he claims to suddenly have grave concerns about security threats when the counter-memo is on his desk.
He lost his benefit of the doubt on this particular issue weeks ago.
Because they also said the same thing about the nunes memo, cause one references the other.
It doens't work that way. Gravel had to exploit a loophole to get it into the public record, which was only available to him thanks to him being chair of some subcommittee. Dems aren't chairs or anything right now.
Guys -- the FBI did not voice security concerns about the Nunes memo once they actually read it. Their statement, in its entirety, was:
That's a significant difference from the statement they signed regarding the Democrat memo saying they "identified portions of the Democratic memo that would raise national security or law enforcement concerns if released publicly."
This makes sense; the Nunes memo didn't actually say anything we didn't already know. To refute it, the Dem memo most likely indicates other information used on the application (to prove the dossier wasn't the sole/main piece of evidence), which presumably has not all been disclosed to this point, and which likely refers to contacts between him and other targets obtained via other surveillance etc.
Like it or not, this is legitimate.
That's a significant difference from the statement they signed regarding the Democrat memo saying they "identified portions of the Democratic memo that would raise national security or law enforcement concerns if released publicly."
This makes sense; the Nunes memo didn't actually say anything we didn't already know. To refute it, the Dem memo most likely indicates other information used on the application (to prove the dossier wasn't the sole/main piece of evidence), which presumably has not all been disclosed to this point, and which likely refers to contacts between him and other targets obtained via other surveillance etc.
Like it or not, this is legitimate.
I feel like this strategy would work better if the white house wasn't drowning in leaks as is