Totally where I'm at.
I waited for Control to hit Steam. Got the Ultimate Edition for $20, and felt much better about the entire process at the end of the day. So you better believe I'll be doing the same for Hitman 3.
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I waited for Control to hit Steam. Got the Ultimate Edition for $20, and felt much better about the entire process at the end of the day. So you better believe I'll be doing the same for Hitman 3.
Isn't this pointless because you can't move anything from the earlier games to the PS5 version if you played on PC? You also lose all the discount perks.
Man they just keep fucking up lol. First the episodic shit with Hitman 1 was a bit of a miss. Now VR for this game is PS exclusive and transferring levels is EGS exclusive. Sorry, but it's on you IO Interactive. The Hitman games are great though. Will play when it comes to Steam with VR.
Transferring levels works on consoles too, but only from same ecosystem.
Also episodic Hitman was amazing, it's such a shame that people were so narrow minded about it.
The episodic nature of Hitman 2016 was amazingly amazing! Wish they'd kept goin' with that method.
This is more or less where I am. The Hitman games never really grabbed me as much as some of the other stealth games but I still usually buy them, they've been on a roll with bad decisions since leaving Square though so I'm gonna sit this one out, at least until the VR version comes to Steam, as that looks pretty awesome.
You can bring over your Hitman 1/2 "progression" to 3 for free (i.e. unlocked suits, weapons, items, challenges, mastery levels for each map). But to actually play the maps from Hitman 1/2 in 3 it turns out need to buy an access pass on EGS.
So was the "access pass" stuff only recently brought to light then ? That seems really shady if that's the case, IO could have been clearer either way.
Yeah up until this announcement it was said the transfer would be free of charge - it still is for consoles, just not PC due to the Steam->EGS exclusivity crap.
The announcement mentions reasons "outside" of the dev's control, so maybe legal issues are to blame, since it doesn't seem like there's any technical reason they couldn't verify you already own Hitman 1/2 on Steam. Still sucks though & I don't blame anyone waiting an extra year for the Steam release.
Yep, adjustments in texture quality and models, a little bit of lighting, and the biggest change: screen space reflections. Maybe raytacing in the future when the game gets updated with it.
Damn. I was one of many who bought the first two games ahead of this one. Kinda sucks, eh.
Refund it, if you don't already own it on steam you can just buy it on EGS and it's not gonna be any different in your case. This mostly sucks for those of us that already had all that shit.
Already installed and played a bit, it's fine 80% is a big discount so not a big hit. Just annoying.
Kind of bullshit but not quite as bad as I thought at first. Since I already got Hitman 1 for free on EGS it essentially comes down to buying Hitman 2 again but at 80% off, so probably like 10 to 20 dollars depending on how they price it. I can live with that since I like the developer and don't want to wait a year to play it on Steam. It sucks that boardroom bullshit kept that from delivering on what they said they would though.
Epic looking into the situation
Oh, they are just now learning of this, huh?
I'm sure that is totally correct.
It seems they can't even talk about the prospects. I think their AMA had a line where they hinted at it being a temp exclusive.
I can't imagine Tim Sweeney knew about it untill the negative press around EGS and Hitman 3 started surfacing.
Most likely Sony paid for exclusivity for that specific thing and maybe we get it in a year if ever, Resident Evil 7 never got a PC update with VR, but maybe this will be different.
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Added thread mark. Lets see if they will actually do anything
I hope so, cos my pre order is off in the meantime, so it'd be good to see them step in; let's face it Epic ain't shy at spending cash
So I don't know whether I'd grab H2 in Epic and am instead going back to the H2 content that was added after I stopped playing.
- Haven seems like one of the best levels, but I really need to dig in more. Sucks that it came out late enough to never get many alternate missions.
- H2 got a bunch of alternate Special Assignment missions? What was the perception on this? Is there a specific order for the plot?
- Haven seems like one of the best levels, but I really need to dig in more. Sucks that it came out late enough to never get many alternate missions.
- H2 got a bunch of alternate Special Assignment missions? What was the perception on this? Is there a specific order for the plot?
Look, he took time out of his busy schedule of lawsuits to pay lip service. Thank you, king Timmy 🙇
I wonder if this is a WB Games issue? I noticed IOI are listed as the publishers for Hitman 1 on EGS, but presumably WB still has the rights to Hitman 2, so maybe they're raising a stink about H2 content being given away "for free," just like how they pulled their stuff from GeForce Now.
As for the special assignments, they're pretty much universally derided because they don't add much new. In fact, a little datamining reveals the sound files for the first special assignments pack are labeled with "ET," so they were likely originally supposed to be elusive targets. There just isn't much dialogue and the mission areas are pretty small, though it is interesting to explore some of the locations at different times than usual. Still, I was expecting something more like The Icon.
Anyway, the first two in Santa Fortuna and Mumbai can be played in any order, but you should definitely do Miami -> Whittleton Creek for the second pack because those two have a connected story.
Haven is amazing. Unraveling the story is a lot of fun and they really nail the resort feel.
As for the special assignments, they're pretty much universally derided because they don't add much new. In fact, a little datamining reveals the sound files for the first special assignments pack are labeled with "ET," so they were likely originally supposed to be elusive targets. There just isn't much dialogue and the mission areas are pretty small, though it is interesting to explore some of the locations at different times than usual. Still, I was expecting something more like The Icon.
Anyway, the first two in Santa Fortuna and Mumbai can be played in any order, but you should definitely do Miami -> Whittleton Creek for the second pack because those two have a connected story.
Current status on access to all of the WOA content:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
They're literally rebranded Elusive Targets. The overview cinematics still even have the elusive target icons in them. Some small things are changed, but they're largely identical to the main missions.
They're not that great to be honest. The Mumbai and Whittleton Creek ones are amongst the most absurdly easy missions of the entire game, while the Santa Fortuna one is all kinds of frustrating bullshit.
Current status on access to all of the WOA content:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
IOI can make games.
They can not package them to save their fucking lives.
Wait so I don't have Patient Zero, am I not getting any H1 contentCurrent status on access to all of the WOA content:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
or is the default Legacy Pack just turned into the H1 access pass
I'm still surprised IOI did this (just to add more supposed value to the expansion pass?). Hitman 2's ET were already pretty lacking in number, plus the number of returning Hitman (2016)/Season 1 targets just encouraged players to more focus on re-running Legacy maps for better ET preparation.
It's pretty silly given how this is meant to be the final instalment of the trilogy that should capture everything. Don't know if it's tied to the file structure of map content and content transfers from each instalment to the next.
Excellent question, I think you're fine on most platforms. Think this will help:
Reference: https://www.ioi.dk/hitman-3-pre-launch-guide/
Okay phew. Guess I finally get to experience all of H1 after making the mistake of buying it piece meal, didn't make that mistake with H2 and went Gold right away.
Hopefully with Sweeney recognising the blowback, the situation will be resolved for the better.
I'll be interested to see what the actual reasoning for all of this is, but IOI definitely deserve the blame for the way they've handled it.
I'll be interested to see what the actual reasoning for all of this is, but IOI definitely deserve the blame for the way they've handled it.
It definitely sucks, and not even just for importing levels to Hitman 3. What's to say there won't be a Hitman '4' on Steam as well where EGS saves of 3 won't import?
It puts a spanner in the works of the entire 'import the games you own for free' philosophy and is an absolutely terrible move from Epic (I assume, but I mean... come on.) in terms of optics/consumer practices.
EDIT: Good to see they're 'looking into it' and hopefully it can be resolved. Sure seems pretty simple, just tie everything to the IOI account, but hey, IANAL, so.
It puts a spanner in the works of the entire 'import the games you own for free' philosophy and is an absolutely terrible move from Epic (I assume, but I mean... come on.) in terms of optics/consumer practices.
EDIT: Good to see they're 'looking into it' and hopefully it can be resolved. Sure seems pretty simple, just tie everything to the IOI account, but hey, IANAL, so.
We know there wont be a Hitman 4 in this sense. This was supposed to be season 3, and final season, of the only Hitman game in the market (2016), but after Hitman 2016 was not a huge success, they made it not episodic and separate games.
But the very base idea of this "trilogy", is that it's one game, three seasons.
Whatever Hitman 4 is, will probably be a leap forward.
It's why I used inverted commas, they could start a new game that still works on developing from the same engine. If they're 100% moving on after this then maybe that's a moot point, but the principle stands.
What a mess. So even if this isn't sorted by launch can I at least sync my item unlocks from H1 + H2 for use in H3 via the IO account creation? Not really sure how that works. My H1 and H2 progress is on Steam btw.
This is art.Current status on access to all of the WOA content:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
Really hope they sort this out, was really looking forward to Hitman 3 and I generally don't have much of an issue with EGS (Besides it being so damn slow to launch compared to steam). This all just seems like such a strange self-own.
I also wouldn't give Valve a pass here as I don't think it would be all that shocking for them to not want to play ball with an EGS timed exclusive. That said this tends to be the issue most crossplay games run into in that most storefronts want to be involved with whatever transactions are tied to your game so I can't imagine Epic was stoked about the idea of honoring Steam purchases for a EGS timed exclusive.
I will say, ioi isn't totally blameless here either as they were the ones who promised a solution to an unlikely to be solved problem. While there are games that have solved this issue (Epic's own Rocket League comes to mind; though part of their solution was discontinuing the Steam version) they're few and far between so ioi would've been better off initially stating that your Steam purchases of previous Hitman titles would not carry over to Hitman 3 purchased through EGS.
Most likely the best solution here would've been for ioi to make complete versions of the first two Hitman games available for free through EGS and then enable the ability for the EGS versions to load Steam save files.
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What a shitshow. IO better pray to God that 007 does well, because if not, Papa Spencer and Uncle Nadella will be knocking on their door.Current status on access to all of the WOA content:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/kyixfs/i_created_a_diagram_showing_how_to_access_each/
As if that was bad thing. At least it would guarantee that their future games won't be epic exclusive or have ps5 exclusive content like now.
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