Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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Good. Actual journalism. Too much to expect from most gaming news sites, apparently.
(Thanks to the couple of valiant exceptions.)
Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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Really glad this is getting mainstream coverage I hope this isn't just swept under the rug what they (intentionally) did is horrible and should not be without consequence. Also really disappointed in most major gaming outlets letting them off the hook like wtf? They should be ashamed of themselves buying into this whole bullshit narrative of "Guys they made a MISTAKE they had no idea what 8chan was" yea ok buddy
Okay, so if a company supports a child porn website, the solution is to boycott websites that talk about trying to do something about it because they aren't going far enough. I'm learning a lot today.
Good article. Better than most of the gaming media ones.Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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Hot fire from WaPo.Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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When you read people's outrage on this forum to something like Anthem not meeting expectations versus a developer who supports CP, racism, homophobia saying it was just a mistake and how dare we "punish the poor devs" it literally kills me. Priorities amirite?Again, the thing that always gets me in these discussion is that people are free to choose not to buy video games because of
- the story
- the graphics
- the gameplay
- the platform
- the art style
- the franchise
- the developer
and god knows what else, but suddenly when it's on moral grounds you get a bunch of people going "whoa hey now"
Yeah that's a good write up. Glad that these are still coming and that there are people putting together good articles rather than just shitting out a barebones article.Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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Heads up, first mainstream article out in the wild. And damn it's pretty hard hitting imo.
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Because it is a hard topic.Again, the thing that always gets me in these discussion is that people are free to choose not to buy video games because of
- the story
- the graphics
- the gameplay
- the platform
- the art style
- the franchise
- the developer
- the price tag
and god knows what else, but suddenly when it's on moral grounds you get a bunch of people going "whoa hey now"
When you read people's outrage on this forum to something like Anthem not meeting expectations versus a developer who supports CP, racism, homophobia saying it was just a mistake and how dare we "punish the poor devs" it literally kills me. Priorities amirite?
Again, the thing that always gets me in these discussion is that people are free to choose not to buy video games because of
- the story
- the graphics
- the gameplay
- the platform
- the art style
- the franchise
- the developer
- the price tag
and god knows what else, but suddenly when it's on moral grounds you get a bunch of people going "whoa hey now"
Because it is a hard topic.
All of those are reasons you wouldn't want to buy a product.
But let's say you went to Burger King for lunch and someone was incredibly rude to you. Is it fair to never go back to that specific location? What about the stores owned by that franchise owner (?)? What about all Burger Kings on the planet?
Should you never go to BK in the UK because some kid in Florida spit in your whopper? Should you never go to BK in Florida because the CEO was a knob once?
And I genuinely don't know the answer to that. As a sense of punishment I think it is stupid. But I also know that I don't eat at Arby's anymore because I ate a bad sandwich and had horrible food poisoning twenty years ago as the mere smell of an Arby's sandwich makes me nauseous.
Similarly, I know there are brands I don't support anymore because some of their on-air personalities are truly horrific people. I justify that because at least two of those on-air personalities actually hold high ranking positions in the company. But I also know that said on-air personalities and managers have little to no say in what other divisions of the company work on.
Like I said, this is a hard topic. As a site it requires discussion to figure out what to do. But as an individual it is very much an individual decision
I can't believe people on this forum are still discussing whether or not to ban OTs of games by this publisher. Like, this is pretty easy people. Do you want to support people who ally themselves with pedophiles, racists, sexists, Nazis, and pretty much every other category of awful people? Because promoting their games is supporting them. If you buy games from them, you're basically saying what they did was okay. I have difficulty imagining someone who looks at promotion of 8chan and says "ooh, that's bad, but the gameplay man, it's just so good! Can't pass that up!" and then continues thinking themselves a moral person, when their morality is so fragile that some good gameplay can cause them to forgive any transgression apparently. As others have pointed out, games are a luxury item- they aren't like clothes or food or something you can't live without. It's not like their aren't other games out there to buy, it's not like THQ Nordic has a monopoly on games or on genres of games.
Hit the nail on the head with what's so messed up about this. Apparently expecting basic morality from gamers is just too much.
But let's say you went to Burger King for lunch and someone was incredibly rude to you. Is it fair to never go back to that specific location? What about the stores owned by that franchise owner (?)? What about all Burger Kings on the planet?
Oh I dunno, all the people I've seen gleefully enjoying Anthem's rough couple of weeks and shitting on Bioware definitely care about developers.Just like how violence always gets brought up whenever there's a thread about objectifying women, it's only in threads like these where people suddenly start to care about the "devs".
No that misses everything. When you shut down the discussion you shutdown everyone's criticism. Ain't a single person say let's look at it from other angles. This is simply a matter of people have shit to say and you all just don't want to hear it. And for what? If this was Nintendo it would be fucking crickets.
Oh I dunno, all the people I've seen gleefully enjoying Anthem's rough couple of weeks and shitting on Bioware definitely care about developers.
The situation gets more interesting if Burger King releases a new sandwich; let's say, Destroywhopper, which becomes a hit amongst emo teens, and the idea at a fast foodie forum on how to deal with it is to not discuss it too much.who the fuck cares
If I liked Burger King that much, I'd go to a different Burger King. If I'm just hungry I can go to McDonald's, I can go to Wendy's, I can go to Harvey's. I do not owe Burger King a single thin schooner-covered time.
But let's say you went to Burger King for lunch and someone was incredibly rude to you. Is it fair to never go back to that specific location? What about the stores owned by that franchise owner (?)? What about all Burger Kings on the planet?
Should you never go to BK in the UK because some kid in Florida spit in your whopper? Should you never go to BK in Florida because the CEO was a knob once?
Throw up a poll if you want to see how the rest of the board really feels about boycotting discussion.
that doesn't become interesting because it is still being a silly and overly reductive. people aren't mad because of a business decision or because of a sleazy advertising campaign, they're mad because a major publisher actively engaged with and linked to a site that is known for pedophilia, racism, sexism, and abuseThe situation gets more interesting if Burger King releases a new sandwich; let's say, Destroywhopper, which becomes a hit amongst emo teens, and the idea at a fast foodie forum on how to deal with it is to not discuss it too much.
Except you don't need Game Threads to have this discussion and criticism of the company. You can still have News threads like this about THQ and talk about how shitty they are and how much of a problem this is. Banning advertising their games with game threads is not a ban of discussion on THQ.
THQ's products and advertising their products should be boycotted unless this situation is resolved and that's going to take more than just a throw away apology.
Again, the thing that always gets me in these discussion is that people are free to choose not to buy video games because of
- the story
- the graphics
- the gameplay
- the platform
- the art style
- the franchise
- the developer
- the price tag
and god knows what else, but suddenly when it's on moral grounds you get a bunch of people going "whoa hey now"
I live in a world were 45 is fucking people left and right. With the support of many. Ain't anybody gonna tell me that I can't talk about what I want to talk about just because you all have feelings. For once. All of this needs to be discussed. Not ignored.
You should try 8chan I hear you're able to say anything you want thereI live in a world were 45 is fucking people left and right. With the support of many. Ain't anybody gonna tell me that I can't talk about what I want to talk about just because you all have feelings. For once. All of this needs to be discussed. Not ignored. What the heck are you all afraid of?
And that was actually what I was thinking ofWell I mean, yes? That's exactly what happened with Chick-Fil-A; the owner's a huge asshole, so a lot of people decided to stop going there.
If the PR & Marketing Director and Business & Product Development Director of Burger King decided to host a Q & A on an antisemitic child pornography website even after they were warned repeatedly that it was a bad idea, yeah I'd give serious consideration to never going there again.
You should try 8chan I hear you're able to say anything you want there
Instead we should just put links to pirates copies so people can play the game without having to support them....I kidRegarding boycott, I believe it'll be sufficient enough to treat it like Kingdom Come back then.
Put a staff note at the top of every single THQ Nordic thread, explaining why the company is hazardous and it's all up to you to support them or not. Banning will make people forget, that's not always the best way to inform and remind people.
No that misses everything. When you shut down the discussion you shutdown everyone's criticism. Ain't a single person saying let's look at it from other angles. This is simply a matter of people have shit to say about what has happened and will continue to happen (production or media communication) and you all just don't want to hear it. And for what? If this was Nintendo it would be fucking crickets.
Was just going to edit but fair enough that was over the line. sorry
And that was actually what I was thinking of
I know that I personally didn't go to chik fil a for quite some time afterward because of said behavior. But I also didn't judge people who decided that the CEO being a dickhead has no bearing on the acne covered teenager manning the counter.
And that is what we are seeing here. Instantly anyone who doesn't support the ban is a hypocrite and a bad person and blah blah blah.
Which cuts to the main point. I have a very hard time supporting any company under the THQN banner unless they specifically say something to get across the point "that's not cool". But someone deciding that a random indie dev studio that got acquired last month shouldn't be punished because THQN are shitheads doesn't make them a bad person.
It just makes them a different person
Was just going to edit but fair enough that was over the line. sorry
i think this is the right decisionOfficial Staff CommunicationTo address a few recurring points: We will not be banning games published by THQ Nordic and subsidiaries like Deep Silver. You are instead welcome to continue raising the issue in threads relevant to the publisher and its games. Disclaimers and boycotts as user driven initiatives are welcome as well.
As we have said before, issues like this should be talked about and should be aired in the open. There is not and will never be such a thing as a "partial ban" on a video game here.
Please do not throw around highly inflammatory accusations or insults at your fellow members. Thank you.
Because it is a hard topic.
All of those are reasons you wouldn't want to buy a product.
But let's say you went to Burger King for lunch and someone was incredibly rude to you. Is it fair to never go back to that specific location? What about the stores owned by that franchise owner (?)? What about all Burger Kings on the planet?
Should you never go to BK in the UK because some kid in Florida spit in your whopper? Should you never go to BK in Florida because the CEO was a knob once?
And I genuinely don't know the answer to that. As a sense of punishment I think it is stupid. But I also know that I don't eat at Arby's anymore because I ate a bad sandwich and had horrible food poisoning twenty years ago as the mere smell of an Arby's sandwich makes me nauseous.
Similarly, I know there are brands I don't support anymore because some of their on-air personalities are truly horrific people. I justify that because at least two of those on-air personalities actually hold high ranking positions in the company. But I also know that said on-air personalities and managers have little to no say in what other divisions of the company work on.
Like I said, this is a hard topic. As a site it requires discussion to figure out what to do. But as an individual it is very much an individual decision