I'd prefer it if all games could be preserved. Not all can, but I can't see why Google would put any special effort in to preserve what they are able to when that won't make them much profit.I didn't really get that from your post, no. However, Stadia isn't going to turn every franchise into an exclusive streaming game, so why is so bad that Stadia gets it's digital exclusives that you can otherwise ignore? I wouldn't be surprised if they made a few franchise exclusives, but there are endless games out there to play.
I'm not worried about it shutting down. My internet is strong. And my data has been collected by Steam, MS, and Sony for years.Enjoy Stadia my friend, may google never shut it down, your internet always be strong, and your data never collected.
That would be an ideal world, but since it isn't possible, we have to make the best of what we have. A few Stadia exclusives that can't be preserved isn't going to affect anything in the grand scheme of things. There are other benefits that cloud gaming also happens to bring, so it's a mismatch of ups and downs.I'd prefer it if all games could be preserved. Not all can, but I can't see why Google would put any special effort in to preserve what they are able to when that won't make them much profit.
Right now I can play god of war on my Ps4 pro then on my pc using Ps now, that will only get better long term as Ps now gets more games, I can do the same with many xbox play anywhere gamepass games.When is Sony going to offer this basic feature
Im using my sub selectively I'm not going to be subbed every month
i want it to fail because it removes some of the things i care most about in games, and if it takes off and results in other platforms (mainly PC) receiving less development resources and games then it hurts my hobby.
Then you are Google's prime audience, im all for options. I want Stadia to do well I just believe it launched or is launching in a bad wayI'm not worried about it shutting down. My internet is strong. And my data has been collected by Steam, MS, and Sony for years.
In 4k? Can I do that with death stranding too?Right now I can play god of war on my Ps4 pro then on my pc using Ps now, that will only get better long term as Ps now gets more games
People are just scared at what it represents for them being physical game and console owners. It's a new dynamic and people are resistant to change even if it's for the better (not saying this is).
It is totally possible. Companies can do it if they want.That would be an ideal world, but since it isn't possible, we have to make the best of what we have. A few Stadia exclusives that can't be preserved isn't going to affect anything in the grand scheme of things. There are other benefits that cloud gaming also happens to bring, so it's a mismatch of ups and downs.
mods, single player cheats, reselling, arbitrary input device support, actual ownership of games
It's probably buried under bunch of illogical subdomains.You do get the impression that Stadia is a z-tier priority for Google.
It doesn't even have a website ffs
No because you cant play Death Stranding on Stadia but you can play Breakpoint enjoy
You do get the impression that Stadia is a z-tier priority for Google.
It doesn't even have a website ffs
Criticizing is perfectly fine. It's problematic when it's just straight bashing going back to the "Stadia/cloud gaming needs to die" comment.It is totally possible. Companies can do it if they want.
But they have chosen not to in order to pursue profit, and so I'm going to criticise them for it. Maybe one day governments will pay attention and institute laws that force companies to preserve what they create, but until that day I'm going to continue to criticise companies for choosing not to.
So, to go back to your original post, no, I won't zip it. No one should zip it. The freedom to criticise these companies is the only damn way any of us can even begin to fight back.
why? game streaming inherently involves a large shift in how games are delivered and consumed and that comes with a big set of tradeoffs. people who are disadvantaged by those tradeoffs would naturally want the format to fail.Criticizing is perfectly fine. It's problematic when it's just straight bashing going back to the "Stadia/cloud gaming needs to die" comment.
You can hyper fixate on whatever individual comments you've seen all you want now, but your initial post, the one I took issue with, did nothing to specify, referring only to a broad, generic "gamers".Criticizing is perfectly fine. It's problematic when it's just straight bashing going back to the "Stadia/cloud gaming needs to die" comment.
Streaming to be the prevelant way to play games which is why I say it's a long term thing.
It won't be killed off right away but I don't see it sticking it out.
Gamers being a decent chunk of the gaming community. (those that have their voices heard)You can hyper fixate on whatever individual comments you've seen all you want now, but your initial post, the one I took issue with, did nothing to specify, referring only to a broad, generic "gamers".
Do you honestly believe this? People here are not showing the same resistence to PS Now or Xcloud compared to Google. For some reason.
"Conservative gamer on era is scared of change" must be the easiest argument ever to use on a place like this when you're too lazy to get into a nuanced discussion, seriously.
I mean, it fits the overall "I'm too cool to be seen with these traditional gamers" narrative and make you feel like you're so flexible with new technologies.
We all experienced events with popular online only game's servers crashing and burning on release dates, we all know how limited internet are being pushed on people by companies in the entire world in parallel with the progressively better connections, and we all knows google's reputation.
I'm sure streaming will be a great option for gaming in the future and that's why people trusts Sony or MS to be invested in their streaming options. Because they're just options if everything goes wrong.
People are just scared at what it represents for them being physical game and console owners. It's a new dynamic and people are resistant to change even if it's for the better (not saying this is).
They should just admit it's not for them if they are against the idea of it, and then let other people do what they want. The only things that need to die in gaming are true anti-consumer practices.why? game streaming inherently involves a large shift in how games are delivered and consumed and that comes with a big set of tradeoffs. people who are disadvantaged by those tradeoffs would naturally want the format to fail.
They should just admit it's not for them if they are against the idea of it, and then let other people do what they want. The only things that need to die in gaming are true anti-consumer practices.
When is Stadia going to offer triple A exclusives that I can stream
They needed to invest in a huge exclusive that fully utilizes their tech.
If people can complain about waiting a few extra months for certain stadia features I can complain about waiting 5 years for PSnow to offer something similar to stadiaOr have investors happy about a product that they keep sinking money into and not seeing the results they want in 4 years. Right now they have a dead product because you have to buy the games on top of the sub.
Once either Microsoft or maybe google come up with an all in one sub, then that will be where the landscape will start to become more clear. Right now it's still wild west.
Once servers are in place that are based off of more powerful hardware you will see 4k streams for those games. Right now the majority of PS NOW's streaming side was used as a semi replacement for BC on PS3. ANd the hardware and most of the games were 720p.
So once those are replaced with something better server wise you will see that. And SONY HAS IP's that you can't get anywhere else. Thats the issue Stadia is mainly facing on top of their weird pricing.
There are so many options now for just subscriptions outside of streaming, people would rather do that. Once those subs down the road include streaming, unless google makes big exclusive stream deals for Battlefield and the likes it's not going to become a center for streaming.
It will be that other service that has the same games all the others have to stream, and non of the features for cross-play with the bigger player pools.
Those services are tied to a platform that still embraces physical games and a console even if you can use them without one. Stadia is something different. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You can belittle my point all you want but it doesn't invalidate it. Also I didn't say everyone who wants go see it fail fits that mold but it's an important aspect of the argument against Stadia that can and needs to be addressed
Stadia has a free version you realize? And has benefits of accessibility and benefits of what cloud gaming can offer uniquely.Streaming is the most anit-consumer of all, because similar to subs you don't own the games. Stadia in a sense is trying to combat that ownership while letting you buy on top of pay for the streaming service.
But none of the benefits.
I'll stick to my digital and physical.
I kind of disagree with the sentiment they lay out right away.
Seems kind of hard to take that statement seriously when xCloud is right around the corner. I know Era is is very anti Stadia but what say you?
Exactly it's because people KNOW google that they are raising valid questionsYour point is just the bread and butter of every new technology discussion on era.
Nobody is scared of the unknown here, we already know the consequences of not having an offline option for our games. Problems inherent to Stadia are not new, or atleast most of them aren't.
I don't need exclusives I'm just using it as pc replacement for new 3rd party games right now, like red dead 2 and cyberpunkWhen is Stadia going to offer triple A exclusives that I can stream
A few years? Man, it's as if they should have launched the product when they had a few first party exclusives to release ready at launch or launch window.
Even if Sony or Microsoft didn't have a killer triple A exclusive at launch day, we at least knew what was coming with trailers and gameplay for new games. With Stadia, we have no clue what first party exclusives google is cooking up, since they're years away.
As someone that wants to cloud game, If stadia fails I hope Sony gets serious about PSnow because it sucks very much in its current state