Wario is literally the only character with an alt costume in Brawl, and his is minor compared to a total model/voice swap. Ot wasn't until Smash 4 when they finally started putting more resources into alternate costumes.
The utter lack of female alts for Hero in Super Smash Bros. is downright appalling.
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Wario is literally the only character with an alt costume in Brawl, and his is minor compared to a total model/voice swap. Ot wasn't until Smash 4 when they finally started putting more resources into alternate costumes.
You're kidding yourself if you think Kazooie doesn't count as a female rep but Nana from the Ice Climbers does.
Kazooie is an integral part of Banjo-Kazooie's moveset and is responsible for like 90% of their moves, with Banjo only being by himself for a few moves like the jabs. This isn't a Rosalina & Luma situation, you can't play the character without Banjo or Kazooie.
Kazooie is an integral part of Banjo-Kazooie's moveset and is responsible for like 90% of their moves, with Banjo only being by himself for a few moves like the jabs. This isn't a Rosalina & Luma situation, you can't play the character without Banjo or Kazooie.
I still can't believe they referenced this move lol. It's actually a secret unlockable in Tooie, so I thought it would be passed over since it's not required to have it to beat the game.
was always under the assumption that she didnt feel pain...lol
What kind of post is this? Thats basically saying you can't criticize anything since your vision doesn't match with theirs. People can and will express dissapointment over elements of games (or in this case characters) they don't like.
It really is a damn shame. And I get that Square themselves don't do a good job highlighting female options and that there being 4 models is already a pretty big get but it's still super unfortunate.
Here's hoping for a Heroine echo, as unlikely as it'll be.
Here's hoping for a Heroine echo, as unlikely as it'll be.
... female villager is right there.Maybe? Not really. Promotional material for Animal Crossing consistently uses male Villager. It seems that Isabelle is considered the "female representation".
...I copied the URL of the wrong picture when I was searching on Google Images.
Wow, I look really dumb. I'm not going to edit it, it's too funny.
Possibly, although by now it's unlikely since boy Villager is more or less a meme.
To the point Sakurai didn't update the design for Ultimate (while MK8 did, for example).
Yeah Banjo is the face of the pair but Kazooie does all the actual work and does all the stuff people actually like about them moveset-wise. Also she's a hilarious asshole.
Fucking robbed, man.
a guy probably wrote that so it doesn't countHey now, don't kinkshame Kazooie.
I still think a Monster Hunter is likely. Rathalos in the base game is just there because DLC characters aren't getting bosses (and there's an odd lack of spirits compared to the other Capcom series in the game). The old datamine indicated that the Monster Hunter music is listed internally as belonging to a series of its own, even though in the game itself so far it's listed in "Others". A Hunter probably would be another character with a male and female skin.
I bet a southern gentleman like Banjo has some pretty questionable opinions of women and how they should be treated.
...Is Banjo southern? I know he literally plays a banjo but I never got that impression through any of his dialogue.
He just always seemed like an aloof bear to me.
She's still far more popular than the male version, by like a factor of 8 / 1 if Pixiv is any metric.IV is different.
Look at the Japanese box art for the Famicom version:
Admittedly, she was dropped for the re-releases on PS1/DS covers.
Maya & Meena for Smash, so we can fill our dark skin representation as well. Make them like a magic-based Ice Climbers.
Fire Emblem Warriors already did that and the only significance any of that would have to Smash is getting another female default.
Seems like there's no downside there. Otherwise sounds like you just don't like Corrin.
While I agree with your sentiment and .5 women out of 3 characters introduced is a god damned travesty, equating Kazooie to Nana is just wrong. She and Banjo are equal partners in their games and in the way their character works.
Banjo is no more the primary character than the Clown Copter is with Bowser Jr.
Ha, completely forgot about Isabelle and Inkling. Dark Samus is tehnically an 'it' I think
I guess Sakurai wasn't confident in his team rendering a thicc hero
Yeah, but it's more glaring in Smash bros because several characters have male and female alts , so when Pokemon trainer, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Robin, Corrin and Inkling all got male and female alts it becomes more of a problem that it would have been that none of the 8 alts for Hero is any of the female heroes.
And, you know, nogt wanting to go against SE in how they want their brand to be represented.
What about Snake?
... Oh right. Metal Gear never suffered a loss this tragic before.
Well, while Banjo definitely is portrayed with Hick traits, if we go by the hints in Rusty Bucket Bay, Isle of Hags and Spiral Mountain probably are somewhere closer to England than the USA.
The game doesn't make it as clear as it should, but half of the alts for the Ice Climbers have you play as Nana, it's just that the difference between their models are so subtle you can barely tell.
This has been in the games since Melee.
I blame CERO for the tragic loss of booty in Smash Ultimate.What about Snake?
... Oh right. Metal Gear never suffered a loss this tragic before.
To make you more sad: the game have many female NPC who remark about how awesome and inspiring her status as the hero is for them. One of them is a queen who say how incredible is to have the freedom to persue their dreams and have adventures.
For a 1988 game it have some very interesting commentaries.
Am I wrong to assume this is a Square-Enix thing and not a Nintendo thing? Nintendo has a few characters in the game that have male/female alt costumes already. Square-Enix was pretty controlling with the Final Fantasy content which is why we have so little of it.
If Kazooie's not the primary character then Banjo isn't either. The whole point is that they're a duo. There's more than enough valid reasons to critique Ultimate's lackluster female turn out but saying Kazooie doesn't count makes it sound like you don't actually want to talk about that.
That's the case in most FE media, am I correct? SSB is like the one exception to the rule.
Entering this thread i was assuming everybody thought this was SE's doing, but i guess some people think Sakurai specifically was the problem.
Warriors panders a lot to the type of people i mentioned so it is part of the problem
And it is not like i dislike corrin i just dislike the way the fanbase treats the character. Like why mcorrin considered awful but fcorrin gets a pass because she is cute and has fanservice?
No, in fact only in warriors fcorrin is the default, in heroes mcorrin is even the one to have yato, and in a recent art with all the lords Mcorrin was the one being shown
I don't know and if it gets another female character the spotlight compared to her male alt I honestly don't care.
Oh, come on! That's awesome, and it's such a damn shame they didn't go with her for Smash. I'm interested in playing this now.
Lol, if anything, he's concerned about how Kazooie treats others.
Both versions get decent amount of spotlight when it isn't about fanservice. And looking how fcorrin gets so much fanservice spotlight I think it is fair to have mcorrin being default in smash
Not saying you're wrong, but I question why Japanese devs seem to ignore or just don't care about criticisms Western audiences seem to have with their games.
I mean I get that the Japanese audience will be their primary target, but don't most of these companies make most of their money overseas? Perhaps it's time to speak with our wallets.