The utter lack of female alts for Hero in Super Smash Bros. is downright appalling.
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Sakurai just chose the face that better represent those games, which in this case, for Square perspective, is Solo and not Sophia. You can see in the previous post with the box arts for DQIV games: she only appears in one of the four boxes, while the male hero appears in all of them.
I'd love Chun-Li but there's no way we're getting 3 SF reps. 2B is more likely but she has the problem of not being on a Nintendo platform. It's looking pretty grim for the final 2 slots.
Speaking of Sophia, something interesting is that she was actually very prominent in the original game's promotional material, even having a huge portion of the cover art to herself:
Then, the PSX rerelease happened and she has been all but replaced by Alena:
Not to mention the DS' port:
Her gradual disappearance from the promotional art is why I suspect Square Enix was the one to push for Solo.
This is what makes the lack of her as an alt so egregious honestly. She is literally on the original boxart.
I remember Sakurai being happy about adding more female characters in Smash 4.
It's not really his fault that gaming doesn't have as much female characters of note.
You actually fight Little Mac right after Mr. Sandman. World of Light avoids making you fight the same opponent twice in a row (to avoid repetitiveness, I guess).
Plus, the fact DK was the bonus boss of Punch-Out Wii.
It's not really his fault that gaming doesn't have as much female characters of note.
You actually fight Little Mac right after Mr. Sandman. World of Light avoids making you fight the same opponent twice in a row (to avoid repetitiveness, I guess).
Plus, the fact DK was the bonus boss of Punch-Out Wii.
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Ike and corrin share moves with other Fire Emblem characters too, so if they count, so should Isabelle
Also weird to use lucina as an example because they didnt choose to make Lucina have the same moveset as Marth, she was going to be a Marth skin, just like you want for the female DQ Heroes, but they decided to make her a echo, so she was upgraded to be a different fighter rather being downgraded to being a clone. Another thing to remember is that if any female makes sense to be a clone is Lucina, because it is literally canon that she is inspired by marth and even dresses like him and uses his name
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What a convenient excuse.
I guess that totally makes it ok to exclude women then./s
I guess someone should tell Sakurai to remove Robin from the game because there's not on there cover period.
I wasn't aware the "best representation" was completely ignoring an inclusive feature that was in all versions of the game.
Thank you for setting those silly women straight./s
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That you misunderstood what appalling means doesn't mean nothin', Danarchy
I mean, we can go further and talk about how Hero shares moves, but I was being a little less strict than that.
That said, I'm using Lucina as an example of a character who they could give different moves to, because she's the most derivative character among the Fire Emblem cast. I mean, Ken is the original Echo, but he's also the most original Echo. If Ryu-2 can have distinct originality, I think so can Lucina. Another reason I use Lucina is because the user I was replying to was praising her moveset, which wasn't even her's.
Was browsing Twitter to see if I can find some cute DQxSmash fan art and found this. Reminded me of this thread. Don't need to know Japanese to get the feeling
For those who don't know, this is An Lucia, DQX's non playable "Hero" being passed up for the default playable hero in Hero's Final Smash.
For those who don't know, this is An Lucia, DQX's non playable "Hero" being passed up for the default playable hero in Hero's Final Smash.
Considering what we know about Cloud, it's not far fetched to mistrust Square
While it is true that the industry as a whole is super male-oriented (especially in Japan), Sakurai & Co. can very easily do better on their end. The term "Be the change you want to see in the world" would apply here.
I could maybe see that rendering both Sofia and Solo's design would be time consuming (in which case I would have gone with just Sofia but lol Square), but I really can't see why we don't get at least Femdrick. It's basically the same design and could easily reuse the assets of male Erdrick. Just give her a height boost.
I doubt it's about gender balance either when Bowser Jr. has 1 out of 8 female alts.
I doubt it's about gender balance either when Bowser Jr. has 1 out of 8 female alts.
She may be the real hero but she's not the « real » hero, iykwim. That's why you have Madason/Rukia instead of his son un the Final Smash.Also
Joker only had 2 school uniform variants, so I'm not sure if that's really an excuse. But yeah, Sophia should have been chosen over Solo.
*sigh* I mean, at least DQ is still getting more than what FF got just from what's currently announced.
I was hoping there could be a surprise Echo announcement or maybe that Hero would have more than 8 alts but I'm kinda intrigued by that voice acting line though. The trailer sounded like it had the different heroes with different VAs (I could almost SWEAR Erdrick is Mayumi Tanaka) But from his words I'm thinking there may just be more to the character to be announced. Maybe we'll even get English VA.