Let's not even think about Cap leaving his alternative universe life and likely children and grandchildren potentially forever to come back just to give Sam his shield...rather than just sending the shield back with a goddamn note.
Depending on when that machine was set up, old Cap probably jumped into the MCU timeline when no one was around. He still had his Pym Particle on hand that he could use anytime, after all.
Comic Thanos has survived a black hole and a supernova.are you saying thanos skin is more durable than space time? to open a portal requires massive amounts of energy. like a supernova or some sorts.
He could just go back to the alternate after he hands the shield off...
Why not use the time stone to bring back Tony, then destroy the stones, then everybody gang up on Thanos and he has nothing special to fight with, uh......
We're still in the original timeline, the new timelines are the ones they went back to. So like, a new world where Loki wasn't captured at the end of the avengers
He wanted to live a full life with Peggy, so he likely went back to the MCU timeline some time after she died.
If he did it any earlier, he wouldn't be able to go back to her, since the characters can only travel to a point further back in their timeline.
yeah definitely, i thought it was makeup. it was really good. i guess in the same way so was fat thor, i assumed it was a suit.
technically being there does cause a split as even the smallest things dove tail outta control. think of it like any multi-person card game: no one would get the same cards or even have the same chance of winning if 2 peoples spots were changed at the table as the shuffling has now dramatically changed over the course of the game. if any time traveler was spotted it would cause a chain reaction.Did I understand this right, from the last question, it seems that travelling back in time doesn't create an alternate timeline, but only when you change something that happened differently in the past does it break out into an alternate timeline.
So the Avengers landing back in 2012 and watching themselves from that time didn't create the alternate timeline. But Bruce going to talk with TAO at the Sanctorum created an alternate timeline. And when Tony/Scott messes up and Loki steals the Tesseract that created another alternate timeline where he is now free.
Tony going back to the 70s and talking to his dad could have created an alternate timeline, but probably didn't, since he didn't reveal his real identity and so it was so minor that it just course corrects.
For Cap's sake, I hope the time GPS coordinates work like that...
He gets his own sitcomSo what happened to the timeline where Loki fucked off with the tesseract again?
I'm inevitable. Like the plot holes in a movie with time travel and fanboy pandering.
Did I understand this right, from the last question, it seems that travelling back in time doesn't create an alternate timeline, but only when you change something that happened differently in the past does it break out into an alternate timeline.
So the Avengers landing back in 2012 and watching themselves from that time didn't create the alternate timeline. But Bruce going to talk with TAO at the Sanctorum created an alternate timeline. And when Tony/Scott messes up and Loki steals the Tesseract that created another alternate timeline where he is now free.
Tony going back to the 70s and talking to his dad could have created an alternate timeline, but probably didn't, since he didn't reveal his real identity and so it was so minor that it just course corrects.
Why not use the time stone to bring back Tony, then destroy the stones, then everybody gang up on Thanos and he has nothing special to fight with, uh......
A disney+ TV showSo what happened to the timeline where Loki fucked off with the tesseract again?
Who is going to do this? We saw what snapping twice did to Thanos, what snapping once did to Hulk, what snapping once did to Tony. You're asking for two more snaps: to revive Tony, and to destroy the stones. Who is going to snap those times that won't die, that won't require an ADDITIONAL snap to come back? And how are they going to coordinate this when a fucking war for reality is happening all around them? Come on.
What? They seem to commit to this thing. The Russos literally just said that the 5 year timeskip sticks, and that all of Peter's friends were dusted, but others moved on to college. And other's lives changed. Zendaya have been out teasing what she knows of FFH, so I'm pretty sure they're gonna explore this in Far From Home and moving forward.
It seems a lot of the hanging threads some people are unsatisfied with currently, but then we'll get all our answers throughout Phase 4. Just be patient.
this isnt comic thanos. its mcu thanos.
The movie answered this for you. It didn't work. You can't bring back dead people.Something I'd like answered:
Why didn't the Avengers (and Banner specifically) try to bring people killed before the snap like the Asgardians (incl Hemdall and Loki), Vision and heck, maybe even Quicksilver? Did they just forget about them? Hulk even said he tried to ring back Natasha (who wasn't snapped).
So what happened to the timeline where Loki fucked off with the tesseract again?
Q:Peggy Carter was probably already married and in her mid 40s in 1970, in that case what year was it that Captain America went back to dance with her?
A:We can't answer it for now, this is a story that happened in an alternate reality. Maybe it will be revealed in the future.
Q: Did Captain America's action at the end affect the timeline? Does that mean there was a time where two CA existed in a same universe?
A: To me, CA's action in the end wasn't the fact he wanted to change anything, it's more like me has made a choice. He chose to go back to past and lived with the one he loved for the rest of his life. The time travel in this movie created an alternate reality. He lived a completely different life in that world. We don't know how exactly his life turned out, but I'd like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world. Yes, there were two CA in that reality, it's just like what Hulk said, what happened in the past has already happened. If you go back to past, you simply created a new reality. The characters in this movie created new timeline when they went back to the past, but it had no effect to the prime universe. What happened in the past 22 movies was still canon.
Q: What about those people who got dusted? What did those five years mean to them? Why didn't they grow older when undusted?
A: Yes, those people whom was lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was.
Q: EG's plot, is it a parallel universe or a closed time loop?
A: Nope, not a time loop. Both Ancinet One and Hulk were right. You can't change the future by simply going back to past. But it's possible to create a different alternate future. It's not butterfly effect. Every decision you made in the past could potentially create a new timeline. For example, the old Cap at the end movie, he lived his married life in a different universe from the main one. He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam.
Well the film makers have said mcu Thanos can survive a portal so there's not much to debate.
sounds like a copout really. if tony can scratch him then a portal can sever limb.Well the film makers have said mcu Thanos can survive a portal so there's not much to debate.
I can't believe some would think multiple realities and timelines are a cop out or something new when that stuff has been part of Marvel comics forever.
The scepter was put back, and the tesseract isn't the time stone.So there is an alternate reality where Loki's scepter disappeared and Loki escaped with the time stone, one where Pym particles were stolen and a safe broken into (but nothing taken), amd one where Cap went back to Peggy.
The scepter was put back, and the tesseract isn't the time stone.
A: There is a guy called Maw in his army, he was a great wizard. Thanos himself was a brilliant genius as well. Those two easily reverse engineered and mass produced Pym Particles.
Well, this sure leaves the door open for some stuff to happen...
It's literally called out that reversing anything undoes the stones. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.the time stone is hilarious OP. you could theoretically bring it with you to voromir, sacrifice a loved one, reverse their death after getting the soul stone, and then walk away while red skull has permament anime shocked face.
I'm pretty confident the inroad to the prequel film will be some sort of "life flashing before her eyes" sort of thing, and she will be returned/changed into another character by someone key to the The Eternals film, as a lead in to that one. Other wise these two films seem very esoteric and disconnected so far.That's another possibility. I know 2014 Gamora has replaced present-day Gamora, so there is less interest in whether she can come back from being in the Soul Stone (or if she is even there, by the MCU's rules). However, Black Widow now becomes the most interesting person involved with the Soul Stone shenanigans.
They could have just said "Time travel didn't affect the past because we wanted the movie to be able to be shown in china which has banned time travel movies that alter the past" :p
The time travel in this movie created an alternate reality. He lived a completely different life in that world. We don't know how exactly his life turned out, but I'd like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world.
that doesnt actually happen with vision. wanda or dormmamanus arent affected when the stones are used because you can localize the effect. theres zero reason why the snap would be undone if they reversed tonys death or someone who died on voromir. what they shown counters what has been said in this interview.It's literally called out that reversing anything undoes the stones. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
Better believe someone from another timeline is going to be pissed that the prime one screwed their shit up.
I'm pretty confident the inroad to the prequel film will be some sort of "life flashing before her eyes" sort of thing, and she will be returned/changed into another character by someone key to the The Eternals film, as a lead in to that one. Other wise these two films seem very esoteric and disconnected so far.