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The Rise of Skywalker - Spoiler Thread [SPOILERS INSIDE]
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I'm gonna go against the general argument and say that I enjoyed the film. A lot. Looking forward to seeing it again to find out how much I actually liked it beyond its roller-coaster pace.
What legit bothers me is that Ben dies definitively. Barring a major retcon like Leia teleporting him somewhere else or something. He should be a good guy and have to live with what he has done.
Also, I loved how much of an impact Leia still had on the film. Jedi master Leia is just awesome and the little flashback to young Luke training her was icing on the cake.
After this movie I finally care about Rey, force-sensitive Finn, serial-flirt Poe and even some of the new characters. Their trio chemistry FINALLY comes through.
Despite not liking Last Jedi, and disliking the Finn plot in it, I genuinely feel terrible for Rose's actress. She should really have been given something to do and not been sidelined to such a degree.
What legit bothers me is that Ben dies definitively. Barring a major retcon like Leia teleporting him somewhere else or something. He should be a good guy and have to live with what he has done.
Also, I loved how much of an impact Leia still had on the film. Jedi master Leia is just awesome and the little flashback to young Luke training her was icing on the cake.
After this movie I finally care about Rey, force-sensitive Finn, serial-flirt Poe and even some of the new characters. Their trio chemistry FINALLY comes through.
Despite not liking Last Jedi, and disliking the Finn plot in it, I genuinely feel terrible for Rose's actress. She should really have been given something to do and not been sidelined to such a degree.
If Donald T. Can do it, then this sexy mofo can do it as well.Billy Howle who plays Palpatine's son is 30.
So using that as his age when Rey is born, he'd have been born between ROTS and ANH
It's canon that this guy nutted in women looking like this
Yes but less shit than what we got.
We just have a weirdly schizophrenic Sequel Trilogy without a real vision.
Yeah i cannot believe people keep defending the Reylo shit and the kiss. It's poorly written and poorly actualized. Like for real...
Oh sure, if we were talking about standalone movies I'd totally agree. The problem is, of course, Rise of Skywalker is the third movie of a trilogy and if it has to spend the first hour setting up stuff the last movie should have, I do think you can blame the last movie for that. Of course I don't particularly blame Johnson since he was doing what he believed was best for his movie and that's the most important thing he can do, but it doesn't change that the sequel trilogy did not benefit from The Last Jedi.
Overall the trilogy reminds me of the Pirates of the Carribean sequels. Not total disasters like the Transformers movies, but still suffering from sequelitis with bloat, nonsensical plots, and contrived action sequences. I really can't imagine rewatching these films for pleasure.
Film continues the tradition of having half a film's worth of events take place in between movies. Wasn't that way in the OT. Yes there were time gaps but the films still flowed together rather than having tons of a new characters and events occur off-screen. Where did the Sith fleet come from? How did they get the tech for planet-killing weapons (which are smaller than the Dreadnought cannons of the last film)? Who's crewing those ships? Why do they have to stay in Exicle's atmosphere when they're already operational? There's a difference between letting people fill in the gaps for themselves and having whole swaths of the plot absent.
Films also continues this trilogy's tradition of the characters being constant failures. Always defeated, always running, always on the back foot. That Avenger's esque cavalry charge was completely unearned and didn't even make sense given the ending of the last film. "Hey, we have even less chance with even less people and not even our recognisable figurehead present but this time everyone will turn out instead of leaving us to die like last time".
The first half was poorly-paced. You have the "deaths" of Chewie and C3PO, the reveals that they're ok, the "twist" that Hux was the secret spy all along all within the first half of the film.
Poor Rose, sidelined to being a background extra the same as the guys from Heroes and Lost. She deserved better. Speaking of which it's kind of amazing the gulf in acting ability between Adam Driver and the rest of the cast. His scenes felt like they were from a different movie.
Sheev makes the same mistake as last time and Force Lightnings himself for no reason. Wish they'd had the stones to kill Rey and leave Ren as the only survivor, to live out the rest of his days in self-imposed exile as penance for his crimes.
Film continues the tradition of having half a film's worth of events take place in between movies. Wasn't that way in the OT. Yes there were time gaps but the films still flowed together rather than having tons of a new characters and events occur off-screen. Where did the Sith fleet come from? How did they get the tech for planet-killing weapons (which are smaller than the Dreadnought cannons of the last film)? Who's crewing those ships? Why do they have to stay in Exicle's atmosphere when they're already operational? There's a difference between letting people fill in the gaps for themselves and having whole swaths of the plot absent.
Films also continues this trilogy's tradition of the characters being constant failures. Always defeated, always running, always on the back foot. That Avenger's esque cavalry charge was completely unearned and didn't even make sense given the ending of the last film. "Hey, we have even less chance with even less people and not even our recognisable figurehead present but this time everyone will turn out instead of leaving us to die like last time".
The first half was poorly-paced. You have the "deaths" of Chewie and C3PO, the reveals that they're ok, the "twist" that Hux was the secret spy all along all within the first half of the film.
Poor Rose, sidelined to being a background extra the same as the guys from Heroes and Lost. She deserved better. Speaking of which it's kind of amazing the gulf in acting ability between Adam Driver and the rest of the cast. His scenes felt like they were from a different movie.
Sheev makes the same mistake as last time and Force Lightnings himself for no reason. Wish they'd had the stones to kill Rey and leave Ren as the only survivor, to live out the rest of his days in self-imposed exile as penance for his crimes.
This really only happened because JJ is such a bad writer he felt that his ideas needed to be forced into the film regardless of whether or not they fit the larger story.
The unfortunate side effect of writing the third part of a story is that you have to pay off the whole story - you can't just make a sequel to the first part and ignore the second part.
Just remember that they tossed out the old EU, but since then have made Darth Vader's stalker and fangirl canon.
... I'm sure the comics will explore all the Palpatine groupies at some point.
Did he at least Force choked her?Just remember that they tossed out the old EU, but since then have made Darth Vader's stalker and fangirl canon.
... I'm sure the comics will explore all the Palpatine groupies at some point.
Just remember that they tossed out the old EU, but since then have made Darth Vader's stalker and fangirl canon.
... I'm sure the comics will explore all the Palpatine groupies at some point.
Maybe Luke and Leia have a brother/sister out there somewhere
Just remember that they tossed out the old EU, but since then have made Darth Vader's stalker and fangirl canon.
... I'm sure the comics will explore all the Palpatine groupies at some point.
Why is every piece of comic book EU terrible, like are the only people who write them English major drop outs?
The bolded sounded cool. Why the fuck couldn't we have seen that? Would have been a great opening act. Did they save it for a tie-in comic or something?
No he's right, better to have a new post-release spoiler thread.
Expectation:
Reality:
I swear this is not a joke... but the broadcast was heard in the crossover event... in the video game FORTNITE.
It's not in the comics or movies. It's in Fortnite.
Y'know I was thinking most of the week that I was gonna catch an early AM Sunday showing for $5, but I'm starting to think I'm just gonna wait for it to pop up on Disney+ instead.
They had a blank slate to do whatever the hell they wanted to after The Last Jedi and they went with this. Yikes.
They had a blank slate to do whatever the hell they wanted to after The Last Jedi and they went with this. Yikes.
Expectation:
Reality:
Fair enough.
I´m guessing that story is a comedic spin-off, right? I know that everything is canon now but some stories are less important than others so I don't mind if something like this exists.
1. We have an OT where spoilers are allowed. You just have to spoiler tag them for the next two days, and then you can openly discuss them.
2. The spoiler leaks thread are already having all of the conversations that are being had in here anyway.
Its incredibly silly to make a spoiler thread that will only be relevant for two more days before the OT becomes an open spoiler thread.
Just gotten home from seeing it.
it was ok. better then tlj, nowhere near as good as tfa.
Kind felt somehow both rushed and too long. It felt like a film where about 30% of it should have happened in a previous film that had palpatines voice as a cliffhanger, rather then as a footnote.
I enjoyed palps force storm and laughed at all the Dark Empire lifting. Finn had a bit more to do in this one then tlj, which was nice.
glad chewie didn't get killed off. unhappy kylo got redeemed because I didn't really want to see that, but eh. richard e grant needed more screentime. was surprised there wasn't more force ghost usage, was kinda expecting rey to destroy palps body and luke/leia/kenobi to destory his soul or something.
Best to worst:
ESB
ANH
ROTJ
TFA
RO
ROTS
ROS
TLJ/TPM
AOTC
it was ok. better then tlj, nowhere near as good as tfa.
Kind felt somehow both rushed and too long. It felt like a film where about 30% of it should have happened in a previous film that had palpatines voice as a cliffhanger, rather then as a footnote.
I enjoyed palps force storm and laughed at all the Dark Empire lifting. Finn had a bit more to do in this one then tlj, which was nice.
glad chewie didn't get killed off. unhappy kylo got redeemed because I didn't really want to see that, but eh. richard e grant needed more screentime. was surprised there wasn't more force ghost usage, was kinda expecting rey to destroy palps body and luke/leia/kenobi to destory his soul or something.
Best to worst:
ESB
ANH
ROTJ
TFA
RO
ROTS
ROS
TLJ/TPM
AOTC
They did this broadcast, and I swear this is true, in Fortnite:
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