I never got the impression that Han was hogging the movie. Hell, it felt like Harrison Ford couldn't get off the set and cash his check quickly enough.
The Rise of Skywalker (2019) social media impressions
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I never got the impression that Han was hogging the movie. Hell, it felt like Harrison Ford couldn't get off the set and cash his check quickly enough.
Oh, agreed on the mess. I just don't think TLJ is why it's a mess - every major plot point that Rian picked up (beyond rebels on the run) was set in motion by JJ.
He created a blank canvas for Rian, and RJ absolutely ran with it. JJ retconning TLJ is what happens when JJ's worst impulses take over, not the natural result of picking up TLJ's story. You live in the legacy you create.
JJ should know better, man.
Only more divisive because most people agree the PT was shit. And the ST was ALWAYS going to be made, even if George never sold Lucasfilm. It was going to happen.
if it tries to to retcon stuff from the TLJ, then you will have discusions of TLJ X RoS X Star Wars franchise in general.
they multiply
I don't think JJ ever thought he'd have to pick up the pieces of the nine thousand story threads he set into motion without a clear plan.
First they lucked out with Vader being lukes father and even luke and leia being related is a (incestious) stretch and second it is supposed to be a planned trilogy nobody expecting three scripts written but not have a general story planned out is inexcusable.
It was his choice to cap off 9 movies with this movie though. I don't think anyone expected this movie to be that after TLJ.
I honestly think the hyperbole on both sides will not be as present once reviews drop, and the overwhelming consensus will be: "Meh. It's fine."
Many people who are mentally ill, including myself, have explained why they think Joker's portrayal of mental illness is dangerous for them. Please don't talk like those voices don't matter.
It is insane to me that he thought the best way to finish the trilogy would not be to focus in on the things that really worked about the sequels, but to...expand the plot outward to attempt to capstone the entire saga?
Scope creep, the movie.
I feel like this only applies to Revenge, the first two are just plain bad and frankly kinda boring lol.
But didn't RJ throw out a lot of the planning that was done for post-TFA story content? So like...who really is retconning who now, HMMM?
Yea I like this guy too, I have fully prepared myself for everything in that tweet
Are you suggesting all mentally ill people don't keep serial killer notebooks full of nonsensical jokes and headless women cut out of porn magazines?
He usually aligns to my tastes so this is a pretty big deal for me. ☹
That was always what this movie was going to be though, the intention for that was clearly said back in 2016
As others have said, while the plot sounds batshit insane, the overall reception of the film from most people - myself included - will probably range from 'meh' to 'it was okay, nice fun time'.
If the TRoS leaks are true, RJ threw out JJ's outline in favour of Lucas' notes for a reason.
I'm pretty sure JJ set rebels being on the run in motion as well. There was a scene in TFA where Hux tells Snokes that they have the rebel fleet tracked and they have nowhere to run.
99% of this trilogies problems is JJ being an idiot and having the first SW movie end on a direct cliffhanger. Meaning RJ couldn't do the traditional timeskip where characters develop over years off screen. It was silly to end TFA on Luke.
To be fair, JJ probably threw out a lot of stuff done by Colin as well!
(Because Colin is a legendarily bad artist)
Very true, take a drink whenever you read a marvel or Star Wars tweet that includes the phrase "fan-service".
Praise and criticism of the films should by and large be at the door of Lucasfilm. However, I'm going to do something I rarely do and I'm going to actually blame Disney for something.
I've always said that making Lucasfilm produce these movies every 2 years was a HUGE mistake. They got by with TFA and TLJ, but it's caught up with them now. The production schedule on these things is always insanely rushed. Why not give the films a 3-year gap? That's what both the PT and OT had. In a blink of the eye, it's like the ST is over.
I've always said that making Lucasfilm produce these movies every 2 years was a HUGE mistake. They got by with TFA and TLJ, but it's caught up with them now. The production schedule on these things is always insanely rushed. Why not give the films a 3-year gap? That's what both the PT and OT had. In a blink of the eye, it's like the ST is over.
Endgame earns its fan service. Sounds like TROS does not.
That helicopter shot was also such a wet fart of an ending.
The fact that this thread is 35+ pages is indicative that it's not nearly at that point yet in my opinion. Maybe it's no longer a cultural tentpole, but "another franchise", like the mummy (lol), wouldn't drive this sort of response.
Episode 9 should have been delayed after Colin was fired.
Him being hired in the first place was a huge mistake but they should have delayed the movie after his firing.
And Disney shouldn't have had to see The Book of Henry to see he had no talent...
Han was like that guy who gets married and has a kid or two on an impulse, but soon realizes he's completely unsuited for domestic life and ends up divorcing and sharing a run-down place with his best bud, which the kids dread going to that one weekend a month. I've met enough of those guys.
Endgame had like a hundred movies building up to it. That's the difference.
It's on its way there though, TFA created a false sense of rebirth for the IP that's been declining hard for a long time on the back of nostalgia.
Could see that yeah, but thinking about 63 where It Chapter 2 is at.
People were concerned about the video game like fetch quest aspect based on the leaks.
Definitely not. Mental illness has surrounded me my entire life, so yeah.
Whatever, let's not derail this shit show further yeah?
Yeah.
What's this guy's background? Never heard of him.
One of the comments on that tweet says they actually had 'video game fetch quest' in their notes.
Sigh.
for context, Roffman dislikes the other two ST films.
