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The high-end ($100+) gaming mouse market is so crowded. Are they worth it?

Grassy

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The G Pro wireless is well worth the money. It's so light and feels amazing to use for FPS games or just generally. It's also very subdued styling-wise and doesn't scream "GAMER", so it can fit right in with a work/home office set-up. Depending on your polling-rate and LED settings, you can get up to ~110 hours on a full charge too.
 
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Grifter

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Dolce said:
Logitech also tend to be the best for wireless, and i can't use Logitech mice again until i know they won't have the double click problem. in a 1-2 year period i went through 10-15 mice from double click issues.
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I'm under the impression that other brands have caught up, based on personal experience. Got some non-gamer Logitech mice and keyboards that cut out even on 2.4g, but a Steelseries headset that lets me roam around farther than other BT headsets ever did, and Razer's been lapping the pack on sheer response time.
 
J-Wood

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I have the Logitech g901 with the Power play mat and I'll never have another combo. Best mice I've ever owned and it's wireless is flawless.
 
Dolce

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Grifter said:
I'm under the impression that other brands have caught up, based on personal experience. Got some non-gamer Logitech mice and keyboards that cut out even on 2.4g, but a Steelseries headset that lets me roam around farther than other BT headsets ever did, and Razer's been lapping the pack on sheer response time.
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when i say best, i mean they have a ton of options in all kinds of different price brackets with all different kinds of shapes and button combos.
 
Eila

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Dolce said:
the big thing with wireless mice is the price difference, or some good wired options having no wireless option.

Logitech also tend to be the best for wireless, and i can't use Logitech mice again until i know they won't have the double click problem. in a 1-2 year period i went through 10-15 mice from double click issues.

my viper mini has been lasting for a while now, knock on wood.
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Good to know it's not just me that constantly fucks up their mouses. Well, not as extreme, but mine probably last 2 years on average. Bonkers to think some people used to sair their MX518 used to last 10 years or whatever. That's never happened to me.
 
sirap

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I love the Zaunkoenig, but I wouldn't say it's a significant step up from the Superlight.

Mouse shape matters more. I just happen to love claw gripping.
 
kaisere

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You can get an OG G Pro for 72 on Amazon right now. That's an incredible deal.

I love my G Pro Superlight, but they are super expensive. It is not 120 dollars more of a mouse than the OG one is, not by a longshot, and if youre a lefty its a true ambi mouse.
 
digit_zero

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Have a G Pro Superlight and love it but its definitely a luxury. You can easily get quality mice under 100 without sacrificing much - something like the G305 is on sale for 30ish bucks very regularly and is a great mouse.
 
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Grifter

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I've avoided the Logitech Superlight after decades of Logitech mice because their software got to be too bloated and annoying to use (also, they were hanging on to micro-USB forever).

That applies to most peripheral software, but other recent ones I've tried at least let you save to the hardware. I assume Logitech does that now as well, but I also don't want to load software from different companies for each of my peripherals. That's how they've trapped me.
 
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Grifter said:
I've avoided the Logitech Superlight after decades of Logitech mice because their software got to be too bloated and annoying to use (also, they were hanging on to micro-USB forever).

That applies to most peripheral software, but other recent ones I've tried at least let you save to the hardware. I assume Logitech does that now as well, but I also don't want to load software from different companies for each of my peripherals. That's how they've trapped me.
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Even the superlight has micro which sucks ass. The new G502X has USB-C at least.

They also have a standalone tool now that just flashes to the hardware and does nothing else. That has been a nice change for me.
 
Silent

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I'm not especially picky when it comes to mice, but I don't think you need to spend over 100 USD for a good mouse. I know Razer has a stigma regarding their software, but I currently use a Razer Viper Ultimate. It was originally a 150 USD mouse, but you can easily find it for 60 USD right now. I bought it because I was transitioning to wireless wherever I can, and the Viper came with a charging dock which sealed the deal for me. Even with wireless peripherals I'm not a huge fan of having to plug it in every now and then. With the dock, I don't have to worry about that. At the time I think the Viper was the only one that had something like that. I think Logitech now offers a wired mousepad that charges certain mice, but that's another rather hefty expense.
 
Vareon

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As with most gaming peripherals, no. They're cool to have and to say that you have, though.
 
Dave.

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taco543 said:
I want a weighted mouse too, I'd love a wireless one, but I want a mouse pad that has a wireless charging spot for the mouse to charge it at the end of the day without thinking about it
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That's the Logitech PowerPlay a few people have mentioned - Except it's the whole mouse pad not just a spot! It's very nice.
 
SigSig

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how many of them will have fucked up wheels and double clicks after some decent usage though?
 
exodus

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J-Wood said:
I have the Logitech g901 with the Power play mat and I'll never have another combo. Best mice I've ever owned and it's wireless is flawless.
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PowerPlay is so hard to give up. I paid a stupid amount for mine in Canada, but the QoL improvement is just so nice.

Grifter said:
I've avoided the Logitech Superlight after decades of Logitech mice because their software got to be too bloated and annoying to use (also, they were hanging on to micro-USB forever).

That applies to most peripheral software, but other recent ones I've tried at least let you save to the hardware. I assume Logitech does that now as well, but I also don't want to load software from different companies for each of my peripherals. That's how they've trapped me.
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You can skip the software altogether. I believe you can store the DPI settings on the mouse itself...so just configure it then uninstall.

I will say however that I find this latest iteration of GHub to be quite good. UI is clean, and it's very stable. It was an entirely different story a year or two ago when it was constantly crashing.

edit: yep, you can use on-board memory mode to store all the settings to the mouse itself:
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Water

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G901 with Powerplay mat. Wont ever go back, this thing is one of the few items I refuse to live without on my desktop. I hate cables running all over my desk.
 
crienne

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Logitech failed me too many times with their shitty left and right buttons (every single one I've had in the last 12 years or so has developed double-clicking issues) so I moved to a Razer Basilisk Ultimate a couple of years ago and it's been fantastic for me. The only negatives are the Razer Synapse software and the fact that the way I grip the mouse led to my thumbnail wearing through a spot on the rubber grip.
 
SolidSnakeUS

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crienne said:
Logitech failed me too many times with their shitty left and right buttons (every single one I've had in the last 12 years or so has developed double-clicking issues) so I moved to a Razer Basilisk Ultimate a couple of years ago and it's been fantastic for me. The only negatives are the Razer Synapse software and the fact that the way I grip the mouse led to my thumbnail wearing through a spot on the rubber grip.
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Honestly, for me, their scroll wheels have been absolutely shit. I'm on my 4th Logitech G Pro Wireless in 2 years because of the scroll wheel fucking up after 3 to 4 months.

There is a Pulsar X2 Ambi coming out this year and I'm really looking to get my hands on it. Especially being a lefty.
 
BeI

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I usually prefer function over form, so I wouldn't pay prices like that unless the mouse had a lot of fancy side buttons. At least 3 on the left, 1+ extra in the middle, and 1+ extra on the right side. Really makes a difference for just about any type of PC game.
 
vlaar

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Some of those look cool, but I've been using the Razer Deathadder for ages, don't even remember a different mouse I've owned. Once I need to upgrade this model I will 100% go for the deathadder again. The shape is just too perfect for me.
 
Cats

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Just beware mice with cool shapes and holes and stuff: you have to clean them, and that's gonna be hell.
 
Jonnax

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I've got a Logitech MX Master 3S.

It works for games 👀
It's also very comfortable and doesn't hurt my hand.
Set the horizontal wheel to zoom in and out, and you won't ever want to use another mouse.

There's a weird thing with stuff like mice and monitors where people say you need #Gaming level stuff to have a good time.
 
Jakisthe

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My Rat MMO7 mouse was the best I've ever used - the thumb wheel was a dream; the extendable side buttons beyond useful and unlike every other MMO mouse out there, not in a horrific flipphone layout - but alas the drivers aren't stored internally and impossible to redownload.

I don't think I'll be able to find the sort of mouse I want now…even my attempts to get a custom commission have fallen flat :/
 
Icarian

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I was in the market for one last year and looked at several of them, ended up getting another wireless Logitech g302. Gaming peripherals are pure gimmicks IMO, just get a quality regular one and save $50-100.
 
rman320

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The only thing I would find necessary for a gaming mouse is extra mouse buttons. Sometimes it's much better for shooter games to bind certain actions to mouse buttons like push to talk.
 
MimosaSTG

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Grifter said:
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What's making this thing $330? I'm pretty sure this is just a sensor offered as on option from a factory. Is it the Carbon Fiber? I mean once they make that mold... that's about it. After buying CF water tubes for my PC directly from a manufacturer, I realized how much people overcharge for "performance" CF.

Gotta recoup that "R&D" cost.

Well I can't really say shit. I spend a ton a money on my hobbies knowing good and well that I'm getting robbed. And the performance and quality of most of these peripherals are outstanding when compared to cheaper options.
 
JMS

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Ganado said:
Got the Logitech G Pro Ultralight or something like that? It's about 100 bucks I think and its been great. No dumb hexagon holes, just looks like a clean mouse thats comfortable and light as hell
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Yep you can't go wrong with the Logitech G Pro wireless, no latency issues at all, solid battery life and good size.
 
Rats

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I spent way too much on the Logitech wireless charging solution and I've never regretted it for a second.
 
J-Wood

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Oddly, I have a G900 still in very good condition that's sitting on a shelf. I got the G901 with the powerplay mat for Christmas. I'd sell if for 60 bucks if anyone is interested! It's this one amazon link
 
Grassy

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exodus said:
PowerPlay is so hard to give up. I paid a stupid amount for mine in Canada, but the QoL improvement is just so nice.



You can skip the software altogether. I believe you can store the DPI settings on the mouse itself...so just configure it then uninstall.

I will say however that I find this latest iteration of GHub to be quite good. UI is clean, and it's very stable. It was an entirely different story a year or two ago when it was constantly crashing.

edit: yep, you can use on-board memory mode to store all the settings to the mouse itself:
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Thanks for this, I had no idea they had new software out. I was pretty surprised it auto-detected my Blue Yeti mic and has full configuration settings as well!

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pillowtalk

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Seems like it's really hard to make a good looking mouse that has more than 2 buttons and less than 10.

edit- can anyone help, I'm looking for a mouse with 6 side buttons
 
Ravelle

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I mainly look for mice that are big and beefy enough for my big hands, there a lot of cheaper mice that are good but the amount I
payed for my Razer Basalisk was worth it.

Had a G502 before this and that mouse rules as well but I donated it to my parents. When my Razer fails I'll go for the new Lightspeed
 
Theswweet

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When the hell is Logitech going to make a G600 Lightspeed? Best MMO mouse on the market, I'd pay good money for a wireless version.
 
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