Sure, but there has yet to even be a mainstream movement to define that difference.Right that's why I said masculinity is fine and not toxic masculinity, not all masculinity is inherently toxic.
Sure, but there has yet to even be a mainstream movement to define that difference.Right that's why I said masculinity is fine and not toxic masculinity, not all masculinity is inherently toxic.
Replace "women" with "black people" and "bitch" with the "n-word".
It's just as offensive to women
And there probably will never be one, at least not one with definitions set in stone that everyone can agree with, just use your head and don't let gender roles rule your life or hide behind them using it as a excuse for shitty behavior.Sure, but there has yet to even be a mainstream movement to define that difference.
That's a pretty bold claim preceding an inadequate solution.And there probably will never be one, at least not one with definitions set in stone that everyone can agree with, just use your head and don't let gender rolls rule your life or hide behind them using it as a excuse for shitty behavior.
Saying not everyone will agree with one true definition on a concept as malleable as masculinity is bold?, people cant even agree 100% on what feminism means, also I never said I had a solution I was basically just saying don't be a jerk or live your life according to one set of preconceived notions and you'll probably be ok.
Agreed.FREE LIONPRIDE
He didn't bring it up and was harrassed by others .Sorry to further thread derail but he does not deserve punishment, and its unfair and sends a confusing and troubling precendent for later cases.
I read your statement as saying that there will never be a mainstream movement to redefine masculinity.Saying not everyone will agree with one true definition on a concept as malleable as masculinity is bold?, people cant even agree 100% on what feminism means, also I never said I had a solution I was basically just saying don't be a jerk or live your life according to one set of preconceived notions and you'll probably be ok.
I still don't understand why you don't agree with the statement that "masculinity can be like a cult," when you already acknowledge that a subset of masculinity called toxic masculinity exists.Saying not everyone will agree with one true definition on a concept as malleable as masculinity is bold?, people cant even agree 100% on what feminism means, also I never said I had a solution I was basically just saying don't be a jerk or live your life according to one set of preconceived notions and you'll probably be ok.
How the hell is LionPride's argument that "bitch" is not the same thing as the N-word, one of the most heinous slurs in the history of the english language, a bannable act of misogyny. Is it Resetera's official stance that the N-word and "bitch" ARE equivalent?
How the hell is LionPride's argument that "bitch" is not the same thing as the N-word, one of the most heinous slurs in the history of the english language, a bannable act of misogyny. Is it Resetera's official stance that the N-word and "bitch" ARE equivalent?
I never said I don't agree, I was just saying with such a loose definitions of what masculinity is it can be a lot of thing to different people, but yes it can be like a cult.I still don't understand why you don't agree with the statement that "masculinity can be like a cult," when you already acknowledge that a subset of masculinity called toxic masculinity exists.
I'd imagine the mysoginy claims stem from multiple female posters saying that they are uncomfortable with the word bitch and him repeatedly stating how little he gave a fuck because he faced no consequences for it IRL as his friends group gave him a pass to say itHow the hell is LionPride's argument that "bitch" is not the same thing as the N-word, one of the most heinous slurs in the history of the english language, a bannable act of misogyny. Is it Resetera's official stance that the N-word and "bitch" ARE equivalent?
there may be a mainstream movement to examine the differences between toxic masculinity and regular masculinity but it probably won't be some grand thing that everyone across all cultures agree on 100% like anything else that open ended and personal is what I meant, and I think that maybe while not everyone knows when there being a jerk most people do, they just rationalize it as being a ok thing to do by hiding behind things like masculinity and a hundred other excuses.I read your statement as saying that there will never be a mainstream movement to redefine masculinity.
Don't be a jerk doesn't really work because part of toxic masculinity is failing to acknowledge the problematic behavior that masculinity encourages.