Yeah, that is what I thought. And he lost that majority because of his push for the Affordable Care Act.
Sinema especially. With Mancin, you could ague he had to take some iffy positions because of West Virginia. But Sinema's case is wholly inexcusable.If there's two Dems that deserve all the shit coming their way it's absolutely manchin and Sinema. This is on them.
This is literally where I'm at. This, then gay marriage, civil liberties for all minorities, it's over. This country needs to literally be torn down to the studs.At what point do people get pushed so far that the peaceful protests stop and violent ones start? Once 2-3 more horrific rulings come down?
People feel hopeless and rightly so. How much longer will they just stand by and watch all this happen, I wonder.
So...why didn't we nuke the filibuster when we had the chance?he
did
not
have
60
votes
for
this
it never even made it of *committee*
So this is pretty much it? Abortion will never be legal again until the people currently on the Supreme Court die?
Yes now its up to the states instead of federal government.So, what now? Each state will decide by law to which degree they allow abortion?
This is why you vote in EVERY election. Midterm, presidential, local. All of them. Every time.A lot of people did. The Dems have all three branches. Nothing changes. I'll always check a box but it feels ceremonial at best. Republicans win even when they lose.
EDIT: I phrased this improperly and I apologize. My intent was not to discourage voting. I understand how the system works. I feel helpless and disheartened and didn't express myself clearly.
So that some don't misunderstand. Abortion is not outlawed nationwide...YET.So this is pretty much it? Abortion will never be legal again until the people currently on the Supreme Court die?
One way would be to add more justicies to the court. The number isn't set in stone
And you thought this, a topic about a ruling that the vast majority of Americans don't support and will cause great suffering and strife, was the right time to come let us know that you don't feel sorry for innocent, powerless American people because of our shitty government?Oh but i do have empathy and I think there some good even in the united states just not the majority. The US have brought a lot of suffering to themselves but even worse to others and mostly just for greed and a lust for power. So yeah i'm sorry for the good people who are suffering but that country is rotten to the core and still has too much influence on the global scene.
Never had 50 votes for thatSo...why didn't we nuke the filibuster when we had the chance?
IIRC, states like Missouri have or are planning to implement Texas style "bounty hunter" laws where civil lawsuits can be brought against people who had or facilitate an abortion.
One thing that I don't see brought up much is how corrosive this type of enforcement could be in communites. Any woman who loses a pregnancy for whatever reason is going to be looking over their shoulder wondering if a neighbor or coworker is going to accuse them of having an abortion. Same goes for anyone connected; if that woman confides with another person about a pregnancy and then goes have an abortion, is that person going to need to be worried about getting dragged into a lawsuit and have to prove they didn't give them pro-abortion advice?
I can potentially see woman's health and pregnancy in general becoming toxic topics really fast
Gotta love NE fuckery. Dems need to solidify that region, but stuff like this always happens.Nope, he lost it because Ted Kennedy had died and Massachusetts voters replaced him with a Republican. Had they elected a Democrat, he would've kept it for 10 more months.
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He never had 60 and he had a Republican majority senate for 6 of 8 years.
Look, it's simple, in this day and age, just
don't be a woman
don't be poor
don't be a minority
don't be a liberal
don't be gay
And you'll be fine!
legitimately what are the states united by? the name United States just doesn't work anymore, if the list of federal things is so small and can't be adjusted
so in 2 and a half years
Codifying Roe v Wade was a campaign promise of his and he had 60 votes. He should be apologizing for fucking up
Manchin isn't gonna vote to pack the courts. He's just virtue signaling. He's not stupid. He obviously saw this coming a mile away.
What is with all the infighting that's what got us in this mess, now is the time to unify and take control back.
If we can't even manage a basic coalition because we turn on each other the second we don't get what we want, we will NEVER take power back from the right wing. At the end of the day, that is the problem - the right wing coalition is completely unshakeable, whereas the left wing collapses in on itself like a black hole with infighting whenever it matters most for us to be unified.
It doesn't seem like it will happen, but it's one of the alternatives to waiting for the justices to die of old age and hope that reasonable people are in control when that happens.
Republicans would need a supermajority in the Senate, which isn't going to happen.
If the democratic party was worth a damn all the pro rights members would constantly and very publicly be torching people like Joe Manchin. Absolutely bury him for all is corruption, call him a Republican. Just fucking torch him.
Instead they all pretend like he's an honest broker and a reasonable chap and anything besides a piece of shit and just ask us to vote in even more people that they will do nothing to keep in line.
The reason the Republican party is successful is they have an agenda and push for it ruthlessly and torch anyone who gets in the way. The democratic party sees someone like Manchin and it's just "oh golly gee can't do nothing there, guess women don't get rights"
This right here, in addition to Roe being overturned today, is what fills me with utter pessimism.From NewRepublic. There was absolutely a way for Obama to make an appointment. He chose not to because decorum and all that. And yeah, I have been plugged into politics since 2004 and over time my cynicism grew over democrats wanting to play by the rules, while gop abuse them whenever given the chance.