Dang, Yoshi's Story is my single favorite stage by some margin, and I don't even play competitively. I'm so glad it's back.Kongo Jungle, Dream Land 64 and Yoshi's Story Melee take this spot for me in they're generic representations of the source material as opposed to doing anything interesting with their respective source material.
People love Randall, but I don't recall that cloud ever helping me, lol.
Put me on the more than 2 team, please.Update to the
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#teamjust2:
yuoke
Choppasmith
Platy
memoryman3
Farrac
Zubz
#teammorethan2:
Mewshuji
ShinobiBK
Clefargle
Pancracio17
Lord Vatek
TheCed
Lady Bow
jack_package_200
Tansut
BGBW
Wil Grieve
MexM
RailWays
theotherMittens
CloverNotes
MoonGirard
Shayla
Armite
Giga Man
Geno
Lbbaker
Monolithsoft
Byakura
Toño
MondoMega
Masozi
V_ac
Sponge
chrisPjelly
Dyle
kyo2004
GiantBreadbug
mas8705
L Thammy
DrArchon
TimeFire
LoboRudas
Okabe
wildvine47
Terraforce
Angst
nopressue
woopWOOP
RomanceDawn
Brock Reiher
Chauzu
Psychonaut
Axass
alexi52
Donizetty
Phizax
TheGamingNewsGuy
DimitriLH
RockmanBN
Odeko
Weiss
TurtleHead
FiXalaS
Remember, echos do count, this is the base game and you are allowed to either switch teams or opt out (until a leak or direct comes, more than the ken leak will count) e.g incineroar.
If any of these update post is after your post and I did not Include you or I put you in the wrong team, then please PM to add you in (same goes for if you want to opt out or anything like that).
(If you are asking when I post these update posts, whenever usually and before I sleep)
gonna be some dark days if xenoblade music comes up in the next couple weeks
Music theory take and givegonna be some dark days if xenoblade music comes up in the next couple weeks
New Stages =/= Unique NewcomersMusic theory take and give
We also know based on the vergben Minecraft stage
And the 108 stage leak
We got 4 more unique new comers that come with stages
Well yeah the Pokemon and xenoblade franchises will get new stagesNew Stages =/= Unique Newcomers
Those stages could be for franchises with no newcomers or existing franchises for all we know.
Just give him this, it'll be fine.That does bring up a good question, what could you do with Leon without using any guns? He has his knife, an RPG, & some melee moves, but what else? Could they go the MvC2 Jill route & have Leon summon zombies?
So something interesting about that banner. It doesn't have Isabelle.
So that could lend some credence to my counter theory to the Box Theory that they're going to use the roster as of the Smash Direct for general marketing. So the Special Edition may not even be updated. They'll probably use the box that we see now and it won't have the characters that we see afterwards like Isabelle and the recently leaked Ken.
The way I see it is this
During Smash 4's post-launch cycle we saw 4 characters, three of which were veterans that were brought back. This was an easy way for them to work with limited resources and construct a character that still ostensibly had a "base" for them in a previous title. That's why they were sold at a discount; they likely weren't as much effort on part of the development team to create. If we didn't get those characters I imagine that they'd likely only get one more original newcomer out of it with the smaller team they had (because I suspect Smash 4 wasn't initially planned to get post-launch content so there was less of a budget for it).
Going into Smash Ultimate they don't have that luxury, and I don't think echoes are going to be as attractive of an incentive moving onward, especially with how irregular the release schedule was for Smash 4. Given how they're essentially model swaps that provide very little new game play experiences, there's a sense that people might want a little more out of their buck. So what I suspect will happen, is that Isabelle-styled derivative characters are essentially going to be the new "Veteran DLC" for them. In some ways this works even better than the Veteran DLC we got for Smash 4; Mewtwo, Roy and Lucas had to be rebuilt between games. But a derivative character within Ultimate? Not as much would have to be recreated from the ground up to do this once you've constructed their model. They'd have a complete set of characters in Ultimate to use as a base and modify as they see fit, and we could see things like Octolings and Dixie; characters who are built off of existing characters, but feature elements that in some ways expand a little more.upon their core characteristics. The same way Isabelle could've been a simple echo but now features a lot of moves that are variations on Villager's, I think a character like Octoling could be an echo, but that they'll find ways to incorporate some Splatoon 2 weapons (like the Dualies) and a few unrepresented weapon types (Splat Charger etc.), while a character like Dixie would likely be eschewed from being a mere echo due to having a significant characteristic that defines her attributes in a unique way.
I think this is a great way to fill in the void with DLC characters that are a little more than just echoes and satisfying some fans who've been wanting to see them, whereas new echoes will instead be reserved for brand new characters that bring them along, such as the way Simon brought Richter in with him. Something like Spring Man with a Ribbon Girl echo makes a lot of sense.
So something interesting about that banner. It doesn't have Isabelle.
So that could lend some credence to my counter theory to the Box Theory that they're going to use the roster as of the Smash Direct for general marketing. So the Special Edition may not even be updated. They'll probably use the box that we see now and it won't have the characters that we see afterwards like Isabelle and the recently leaked Ken.
These are cute. Very suited to each newcomer.
Really hope all 3 make it in
I love your art style! Hope all three of these greats make it in.
I don't actually recall Verge stating every veteran would return.
Don't remember anyone making that claim actually.
Maybe there was some speculation here and there. But I certainly don't remember seeing any specific leaks prior to E3 talking about everyone returning
Your Majesty, I don't dare to guess! Did you tell me already?
He said that there would be no cuts from Smash 4 and that Snake and ICs would be back. All of that was true. Just because he didn't call/know everyone ever was back doesn't mean he was wrong. It just means he didn't have info that literally everyone was back/didn't know about Pichu, Young Link, Wolf, etc.I don't actually recall Verge stating every veteran would return.
Don't remember anyone making that claim actually.
Maybe there was some speculation here and there. But I certainly don't remember seeing any specific leaks prior to E3 talking about everyone returning
maybe I'll get my hopes up and start expecting Smash Direct Part II in early October
It's pretty safe to expect a trailer, I don't think we are getting a direct though.maybe I'll get my hopes up and start expecting Smash Direct Part II in early October
This really needs put out there in that case. Everyone refers to him as the leaker who's claimed most of the correct fighters returning.He never did. He only mention everyone from smash 4 comes back along with Snake and Ice Climbers. He never mentions Wolf, Pokemon Trainer, Young Link or Pichu.
I'd say late October/early November.
12Vergeben has never claimed to have comprehensive information. He knew about Simon and Isabelle, but not K Rool or any of the revealed echoes. He supposedly knows about Ken, Incineroar, and a Square rep, but that doesn't mean that is all that's left either.
Nah that's too far away I'll check back in tomorrow.
Pokémon, sure. But the closer we get to the end, the more uneasy I feel about Elma's chances. And like I said early on, I feel like it's Day 1 or never for Elma.Well yeah the Pokemon and xenoblade franchises will get new stages
Pokémon, sure. But the closer we get to the end, the more uneasy I feel about Elma's chances. And like I said early on, I feel like it's Day 1 or never for Elma.
Would be whelming. Incineroar would be underwhelming.
Who is getting in over Elma, though? No Elma basically confirms the box theory is real.
she'd be a lot more whelming to me than any of the other options people are floating around and I've never even played a Xenoblade
I pray for your sake that #teammorethan2 wins.Update to the
Reset era number of character left bet (Avatar bet):
#teamjust2:
yuoke
Choppasmith
Platy
memoryman3
Farrac
Zubz
#teammorethan2:
Mewshuji
ShinobiBK
Clefargle
Pancracio17
Lord Vatek
TheCed
Lady Bow
jack_package_200
Tansut
BGBW
Wil Grieve
MexM
RailWays
theotherMittens
CloverNotes
MoonGirard
Shayla
Armite
Giga Man
Geno
Lbbaker
Monolithsoft
Byakura
Toño
MondoMega
Masozi
V_ac
Sponge
chrisPjelly
Dyle
kyo2004
GiantBreadbug
mas8705
L Thammy
DrArchon
TimeFire
LoboRudas
Okabe
wildvine47
Terraforce
Angst
nopressue
woopWOOP
RomanceDawn
Brock Reiher
Chauzu
Psychonaut
Axass
alexi52
Donizetty
Phizax
TheGamingNewsGuy
DimitriLH
RockmanBN
Odeko
Weiss
TurtleHead
FiXalaS
Remember, echos do count, this is the base game and you are allowed to either switch teams or opt out (until a leak or direct comes, more than the ken leak will count) e.g incineroar.
If any of these update post is after your post and I did not Include you or I put you in the wrong team, then please PM to add you in (same goes for if you want to opt out or anything like that).
(If you are asking when I post these update posts, whenever usually and before I sleep)
It's gonna suck when half the forum has some box-themed avatar.
I mean, no one really benefits if #teamjust2 wins. The hype will be non-existent if the last two characters are Incineroar and Ken; we've been speculating about them for months.
If Elma got in I'd finally have a new addition to the roster to be happy about and look foward to (other than Simon, I mean).
It's gonna suck when half the forum has some box-themed avatar.