I'd hope so, because Dark Pit as a character didn't exist.Regardless, even Dr. Mario in Melee was more interesting than Dark Pit in Brawl.
I'd hope so, because Dark Pit as a character didn't exist.Regardless, even Dr. Mario in Melee was more interesting than Dark Pit in Brawl.
It doesn't matter, other m was still a somewhat recent gane and a new game was just announced. You can color it how you want, but facts are facts. Ridley is samus's arch nemesis in almost every metroid game and the second moat important character. Geno is an optional side character from a 20 year old third party spinoff.It wasn't dead except for the part where Metroid Other M was a poorly review bomb that quickly retailed for like $5 and nobody wanted anything to do with it until a shitty spinoff came along that nobody liked, followed by an actual revival of the series with Samus Returns and Metroid Prime 4's announcement, well into Ultimate's development and Ridley's inclusion into the game.
That's a good thing. Trying to use Peach without floating is one heck of a limitation with her moveset lol.
Personally I just always disliked them in concept because visually they are to me what K.Rool is to others here, throw in three movesets worth of resources applied to them including the most generic of swordfighters in a game full of them and wooo boy, I was not a fan.I really don't understand the hate that Miis got in Smash 4, was it really because they represented the Wii Era? Wii Fit Trainer is even worse in that regard and she never got the amount of hate Miis did.
Don't know why, but I honestly could see them pulling Chun Li in before an RE character. I wouldn't mind either.Entirely possible.
Wish they got 3 and a RE character made it in.
Sure, I am just saying that generally crossover content is included in games to increase sales. Like you, admittedly, say -- media coverage, DLC sales, etc. all help. 3 of the third party characters were DLC. There's a reason for that. It was by design.Yeah, but he never talked about it being done for "sales" or anything like that. Like I said, he says he adds third party reps he feels are "worthy" to be in (which Geno may or may not be to him).
And we do have sales data and Brawl/4 sold mostly the same (13M), with Melee selling 8M with a way smaller install base. I really don't think the number of people without a Nintendo system and that would get one just to play as one character is as big as people think, third party reps for sure help with some stuff (media coverage, DLC sales, etc), but I don't think it's the main logic behind their inclusions.
A game no one liked and bombed, still is the franchise being alive. There were constantly new games planned in the Metroid franchise. It's a big difference and you're being ridiculous.It wasn't dead except for the part where Metroid Other M was a poorly review bomb that quickly retailed for like $5 and nobody wanted anything to do with it until a shitty spinoff came along that nobody liked, followed by an actual revival of the series with Samus Returns and Metroid Prime 4's announcement, well into Ultimate's development and Ridley's inclusion into the game.
If we get second reps from a series then I demand Tifa or Sephiroth.Don't know why, but I honestly could see them pulling Chun Li in before an RE character. I wouldn't mind either.
Sure, and Lucina without tippers is worse than Marth, but that's the price of easyDaisy without the float seems like it would instantly make her a worse character than Peach.
Heh
It doesn't matter, other m was still a somewhat recent gane and a new game was just announced. You can color it how you want, but facts are facts. Ridley is samus's arch nemesis in almost every metroid game and the second moat important character. Geno is an optional side character from a 20 year old third party spinoff.
I can't say for sure if he will get in or not, but don't blame ridley if he doesn't. Just saying.
"As a character", my dude.
For me it's mostly their voices in mario kart, so obnoxious. That made me go from neutral to eh.I really don't understand the hate that Miis got in Smash 4, was it really because they represented the Wii Era? Wii Fit Trainer is even worse in that regard and she never got the amount of hate Miis did.
he's optional once you get a fourth party member
I'd honestly love both of these.If we get second reps from a series then I demand Tifa or Sephiroth.
Tifa or Seph would be hype as fuck. Either of them plus Chun Li would make me very happy.If we get second reps from a series then I demand Tifa or Sephiroth.
I've always been anti-ToadJust a question.
For those that want Captain Toad, does it have to be Captain Toad specifically? Would you be ok with normal Toad? Yes, normal Toad is pretty much disconfirmed, but would you be ok with normal Toad?
He's about as much of a character as he is in Smash 4. :P
The two are honestly not even remotely comparable.I'm saying Ridley got in when Metroid had no relevance. It was a dead franchise that nobody at Nintendo wanted anything to do with until years later.
So if Geno were to get in it'd be because of his fanbase, like Ridley. Because like Geno, Ridley had no fucking relevance whatsoever at the time.
Falco is in every star fox game, and there's been a lot of star fox games.Yeah, I also think this is the biggest argument against him. Smash barely has secondary characters if any (maybe Falco and Dark Pit fit here? They're still pretty relevant in their games tho).
Just a question.
For those that want Captain Toad, does it have to be Captain Toad specifically? Would you be ok with normal Toad? Yes, normal Toad is pretty much disconfirmed, but would you be ok with normal Toad?
Just a question.
For those that want Captain Toad, does it have to be Captain Toad specifically? Would you be ok with normal Toad? Yes, normal Toad is pretty much disconfirmed, but would you be ok with normal Toad?
Lucina still has somewhat of a niche competitively because the tipper being too much of an x-factor. That's why both ZeRo and Nairo prefer playing Lucina over Marth, even if she's "easier" she still comes with a few unique benefits. Peach without a float isn't easier, it's just straight up worse.Sure, and Lucina without tippers is worse than Marth, but that's the price of easy
For a younger player who doesn't know how to use the float, they'd have a better time playing a character with a third jump instead; they'd have an easier time recovering, and the extra jump itself would help emphasize that Peach and Daisy are meant to be airborne fighters with strong aerials
People just hate Miis. It sucks. I assume it might be largely because they're not "real" characters, but I'll never understand the hate either... Miis are great and it's so disappointing to see such a lack of enthusiasm for Mii Fighters in Smash Bros. =/I really don't understand the hate that Miis got in Smash 4, was it really because they represented the Wii Era? Wii Fit Trainer is even worse in that regard and she never got the amount of hate Miis did.
Does Sheik count?Yeah, I also think this is the biggest argument against him. Smash barely has secondary characters if any (maybe Falco and Dark Pit fit here? They're still pretty relevant in their games tho).
Lucina still has somewhat of a niche competitively because the tipper being too much of an x-factor. That's why both ZeRo and Nairo prefer playing Lucina over Marth, even if she's "easier" she still comes with a few unique benefits. Peach without a float isn't easier, it's just straight up worse.
You'll find some disagreement on that point. Zero, undoubtably one of the best players of the game, believes Lucina is better than Marth. And some agree with him. The fact that it's even arguable though seems to defeat your premise.Sure, and Lucina without tippers is worse than Marth, but that's the price of easy
Sheik is the one exception, but even she at least in hyrule warriors.
People just hate Miis. It sucks. I assume it might be largely because they're not "real" characters, but I'll never understand the hate either... Miis are great and it's so disappointing to see such a lack of enthusiasm for Mii Fighters in Smash Bros. =/
Nah man, Brawl's palette swap didn't give you a worse neutral B.
GO GOOOOOOFor me it's mostly their voices in mario kart, so obnoxious. That made me go from neutral to eh.
Lucina still has somewhat of a niche competitively because the tipper being too much of an x-factor. That's why both ZeRo and Nairo prefer playing Lucina over Marth, even if she's "easier" she still comes with a few unique benefits. Peach without a float isn't easier, it's just straight up worse.
That would be better. One actual moveset that is based on the different mii games, instead of a bunch of reskinned clone moves.Their implementation sucked. All those custom moves and outfits. If there was a single mii character that was well implemented it would have been great.
There's always Melia!
That would be better. One actual moveset that is based on the different mii games, instead of a bunch of reskinned clone moves.
Example of how you would do this? Actual tipper, or something like sweetspots in her moveset?
then play as Peach if you know what you're doingLucina still has somewhat of a niche competitively because the tipper being too much of an x-factor. That's why both ZeRo and Nairo prefer playing Lucina over Marth, even if she's "easier" she still comes with a few unique benefits. Peach without a float isn't easier, it's just straight up worse.
Miis adapt and change for whatever game they're in, they can't be represented by just using Wii Sports moves because then they're not a Mii rep, they're a Wii Sports rep.That would be better. One actual moveset that is based on the different mii games, instead of a bunch of reskinned clone moves.
Roy: *Cries*Sakurai usually balances clones so that they are equally as good as each other, even in high level play.