I disagree. If we get Banjo that means Sakurai doesn't shy away from crossing the pond when suggesting characters. We also know Sakurai is a fan of FPSes, and that's a genre that hasn't been represented in Smash yet. What better way to do so than with the granddaddy of FPSes?If we're getting Banjo, that might be it for western characters.
Even with the Mii Costume Theory, it left room for one wild card pick (Banjo in this case).If Mii Costumes were a predictive factor, Banjo wouldn't get in.
And yet you're still banking on Sega's VF costumes getting in?Even with the Mii Costume Theory, it left room for one wild card pick (Banjo in this case).
Via a Tekken rep, yes (see Ryu in Smash Wii U/3DS). Obviously, this assumes that the Mii Costume Theory pans out.And yet you're still banking on Sega's VF costumes getting in?
But Mega Man is still in the Top 5 with a ton of legacy behind him (he's basically Capcom's co-mascot, sharing the title with Ryu). That plus he was a base roster pick.If Resident Evil and Tekken end up being the last two series joining the Fighters Pass, I'm going to be really disappointed. I was hoping, with Persona as the series they kicked this off with, that they'd go with more interesting picks. Our first Capcom character was Mega Man, far from the biggest franchise under Capcom.
But Mega Man is still in the Top 5 with a ton of legacy behind it. That plus he was a base roster pick.
calling anything western is kinda weird tbhIt's weird to describe all video game characters outside of japan as just western
like it's unlikely but there could theoretically be a video game character from China or India or Korea added to smash
And the second Capcom series was Street Fighter. Also not Capcom's biggest IP.
- Street Fighter is among the Top 5.
- Street Fighter helped define what fighting games are today.
- Ryu, like Mega Man, is Capcom's co-mascot.
- Also like Mega Man, Street Fighter has a ton of legacy behind it.
But what if someone just really wants a Red Dead character?
But it's still in the Top 5 (Top 3, even).I'm aware that Street Fighter is one of Capcom's big IPs. But it's not their biggest IP. That's my point.
Placement among the Top 5 doesn't matter.
If we go below, Ace Attorney still has to contend with Dead Rising (which actually did have a Wii game).I'm in favor of any Capcom character that's not from the Top 5 getting in just so I might not have to hear about the Capcom Top 5 anymore
Persona is still one of the biggest relevant IPs that Sega/Atlus has (alongside Sonic & Yakuza).Placement among the Top 5 doesn't matter.
If pure sales were a factor, Joker would not have been selected from Sega/Atlus.
Give me Breath of Fire.I'm in favor of any Capcom character that's not from the Top 5 getting in just so I might not have to hear about the Capcom Top 5 anymore
Ace Attorney is niche, but it at least has some decent level of awareness. Breath of Fire is just niche.
dead rising is a dead seriesIf we go below, Ace Attorney still has to contend with Dead Rising (which actually did have a Wii game).
Persona is still one of the biggest relevant IPs that Sega/Atlus has (alongside Sonic & Yakuza).
I mean I absolutely get it, but I know what you mean.If Resident Evil and Tekken end up being the last two series joining the Fighters Pass, I'm going to be really disappointed. I was hoping, with Persona as the series they kicked this off with, that they'd go with more interesting picks. Our first Capcom character was Mega Man, far from the biggest franchise under Capcom.
they should put the Top 5 Ninas in Smash
Tbh, i dont think so this time. Ive never seen a a shinobi leak to be wrong. And he clearly was hinting at this. And admins and mods dont troll on this site. Put it all together and you get Banjo in smash in less than a weeks time.This has got me so hyped. I usually keep myself in check for these things, but I'm so stoked about all the Banjo rumors. I'm going to be horrifically disappointed, aren't I?
If the Mii Costume Theory holds true, Tekken would be up front for other reasons. Otherwise, Tales might have some semblance of a shot.And Tales is a Top 5 Bamco franchise. (Top 3 is we remove Gundam from the equation.) What's your point?
Wouldn't they go for Ryu?
Tbh, i dont think so this time. Ive never seen a a shinobi leak to be wrong. And he clearly was hinting at this. And admins and mods dont trill on this site. Put it all together and you get Banjo in smash in less than a weeks time.
I like the way you think.
Ace Attorney is niche, but it at least has some decent level of awareness. Breath of Fire is just niche.
I mean I absolutely get it, but I know what you mean.
They feel more like characters to round out the notable legacy Japanese series than individual characters smash fans are raring to play as.
Saying that Heihachi was fun enough in PSASBR, and Chris Redfield has his moments in Marvel.
Even then, we'd have to worry about the protagonists-first thing. If it was a Versus game, I could see Capcom going for Nina.
If the theory turns out to be wrong (which is pretty likely), you'll probably be in the clear.I just don't think we're getting a Tekken character but I don't want one in the first place so it's probably just my bias.
I'd still rather have Nina than Ryu. She's arguably the bigger face of the franchise, regardless.Even then, we'd have to worry about the protagonists-first thing. If it was a Versus game, I could see Capcom going for Nina.
I'd still rather have Nina than Ryu. She's arguably the bigger face of the franchise, regardless.
And I completely agree with you. It's just that with Sakurai, asking for Breath of Fire is the equivalent of a monkey's paw wish (we get BoF, but the rep is Ryu).I'd still rather have Nina than Ryu. She's arguably the bigger face of the franchise, regardless.
Still crossing my fingers that Fighter #4 or #5 is Ryu Hayabusa
The monkey's paw BoF wish is getting BoF6 representation as the default.And I completely agree with you. It's just that with Sakurai, asking for Breath of Fire is the equivalent of a monkey's paw wish (we get BoF, but the rep is Ryu).
Yeah, we are the Ryu Bros...holding up that the best Ninja in Gaming finally makes his debut. I mean he honestly makes a lot of sense compared to a lot of charcters.
Banjo was actually highly in favor it feels like. There were some doubters but if you look at the DLC prediction contest thread he was the most guessed character behind Erdrick.(this was before the Shinobi drop.)a week ago people were saying how banjo is a western character so he'd never be in, how there are bigger Microsoft characters and franchises so even if we got a western character it wouldn't be him, and how he'd been deconfirmed by people associated with his original game.
So out of boredom I decided to tally how many times each character is voted up to post 146. I'm only counting if it's in the approved format and not counting any honorable mentions, echo suggestions, and such. I'm not an expert and I'm tired so forgive me if I'm off. If someone put two characters in the same slot I counted whoever was first.
The ties aren't ordered in any particular way I'm just lazy.
- Erdrick-77
- Banjo & Kazooie-49
- Jill Valentine-23
- Doomguy-22
- Steve-18
- Ryu Hayabusa-15
- Sword and Shield rep-12
- Phoenix Wright-11
- Leon S. Kennedy-11
- Master Chief-10
- Heihachi-10
- Edelgard-7
- Dante-6
- Travis Touchdown-6
- Luminary-5
- Byleth-5
- Crash Bandicoot-5
- Rex-5
- Slime-5
- Solaire-5
- JIn Kazama-4
- Sora-4
- Monster Hunter-4
- Geno-4
- Rayman-3
- 2B-3
- Jibanyan-3
- Chris Redfield-3
- KOS-MOS-3
- Dragonborn-3
- Chosen Undead-3
- Waluigi-3
- Frisk-2
- Fortnite guy-2
- Euden-2
- Lloyd Irving-2
- Elma-2
- Bandanna Dee-1
- Artorias-1
- Scorpian-1
- Sylux-1
- Paper Mario-1
- Chorus Kids-1
- Reimu-1
- Tracer-1
- Sekiro-1
- Jeane(FGO)-1
- Batman-1
- Cuphead-1
- Veronica(FEH)-1
- Crono-1
- Kassandra/Alexios-1
- Goemon-1
- Wonder Red-1
- James Bond-1
- Goku-1
- Johto Trainer-1
- Raiden-1
- Professor Layton-1
- Porky Minch-1
- Neku Sakuraba-1
- Revali-1
- Mr. Sandman-1
- Chell-1
- Regina-1
- Tails-1
- Final Fantasy 16 Hero-1
- Astral Chain Hero-1
- Kerrigan-1
- Xenoblade 3 Hero-1
- Terry Bogard-1
- Lara Croft-1
- King Boo-1
- Taizo(Dig Dug)-1
- Pear and Marina-1
- Marin-1
- Lynel-1
- Cadence-1
- Viewtiful Joe-1
- Tom Nook-1
- Skull Kid-1
- Character from new Zelda game-1
Like with the Bamco & Capcom reps in general, Tekken in Smash ultimately hinges on the Mii Costume Theory. It's either it or the Capcom rep being from Street Fighter. In the likely scenario that the theory doesn't pan out, it's basically open season.Tekken feels like a stretch to me, too. Like it's prominent but it feels more like a... I dunno how to say it, but it feels more like a "base game" pick. I wouldn't be surprised to see Namco get another character, but I'd expect something a little more left field for them. For whatever reason. Like Dark Souls or Digimon or something.