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midori ☾

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Feb 4, 2021
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Been a while since I've popped in here, how are we doing??

I finished FF7 Remake and it was great!! Intermission has made me really excited for Part 2, whenever it comes out x)

apart from that I'm now playing R&C Rift Apart ans just counting down the days until Great Ace Attorney… ^_^
 

Homura

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I dont think they will announce Pro until september and it will release end of that month with really small amounts. They have a lot of games to promote in meantime unlike other PS5/XSX switch has a lot of exclusives going on this year
Nintendo after SSHD releases won't have anything until September.
August is almost empty.
 

Adulfzen

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Oct 29, 2017
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I dont think they will announce Pro until september and it will release end of that month with really small amounts. They have a lot of games to promote in meantime unlike other PS5/XSX switch has a lot of exclusives going on this year
unlikely as they'll need time to do marketing which entails a video presentation, previews, interviews, probably getting the unit to influencers beforehand etc.

And this is without mentioning getting ahead of leaks as soon as possible as well as getting devkits on as many hands as possible so devs can update their games.

If the Switch Lite got announced in July for a September release, it's easy to imagine something more substantial like this revision will need a similar timeframe.
 

SammyJ9

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Dec 22, 2019
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Been a while since I've popped in here, how are we doing??

I finished FF7 Remake and it was great!! Intermission has made me really excited for Part 2, whenever it comes out x)

apart from that I'm now playing R&C Rift Apart ans just counting down the days until Great Ace Attorney… ^_^
How is Intergrade compared to the main game? Background: I liked the characters a lot, and some of the world and all that, but I was really put off by the padding and slowness of moving around, plus the end of the story. I also was so-so on the combat, but I've heard Yuffie plays a little differrently and is really good?
 

midori ☾

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Feb 4, 2021
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How is Intergrade compared to the main game? Background: I liked the characters a lot, and some of the world and all that, but I was really put off by the padding and slowness of moving around, plus the end of the story. I also was so-so on the combat, but I've heard Yuffie plays a little differrently and is really good?

The new content is definitely quicker paced than the main game (never had a problem with the downtime in the main game but I can see why you would aha), and the combat is slightly refined as well because of Yuffie. Her move set is really fast and I sometime forgot about the ATB moves when playing her, and that's coming from someone who fell back on them a lot in my playthrough x)

I feel like there might not be quite enough to change minds too much (it's only two chapters), but there's definitely signs of evolution in there

oh and Yuffie herself is amazing
 

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Midgar, With Love
Been a while since I've popped in here, how are we doing??

I finished FF7 Remake and it was great!! Intermission has made me really excited for Part 2, whenever it comes out x)

apart from that I'm now playing R&C Rift Apart ans just counting down the days until Great Ace Attorney… ^_^

I'm gooooood! Good to see ya! (And yes, FF7 Remake/InterMISSION) are so aces.
 

oatmeal

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Oct 30, 2017
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It's crazy that Nintendo treats the NES/SNES one way and the other systems they're completely ignoring.

NES/SNES Classic. NES/SNES online.

Nothing for N64. Baffling.
 

Pokémon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Me waiting for more Pokémon Legends Arceus news
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SammyJ9

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Dec 22, 2019
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The new content is definitely quicker paced than the main game (never had a problem with the downtime in the main game but I can see why you would aha), and the combat is slightly refined as well because of Yuffie. Her move set is really fast and I sometime forgot about the ATB moves when playing her, and that's coming from someone who fell back on them a lot in my playthrough x)

I feel like there might not be quite enough to change minds too much (it's only two chapters), but there's definitely signs of evolution in there

oh and Yuffie herself is amazing
I may have to give it a shot at some point, I'm definitely interested in part 2 since that's more the part of FF7 I like anyway. And I think a lot of my issues with the slowness of Remake were due to playing it on a base PS4 at the time: How slow the loadtimes are, how often you walk slowly and move through small gaps to hide load times, etc., that kind of thing. That, and I found combat to be too slow as well, at least mostly for bosses. I think just giving it another shot on PS5, plus Yuffie, might make me like it more.
 

Aether

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Jan 6, 2018
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Nintendo after SSHD releases won't have anything until September.
August is almost empty.
They had longer periods without first party games in the last 2 years, so i dont think that they see this as a problem.
And on the other hand, they have a lot of third party releases in the meantime. I think they're fine.

I do hope we hear something of the pro this week. i just wouldn't count on it.
 

K Samedi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Catching up on the thread now but where did the pro news this week discussion come from? Do we expect an announcement?
 

HockeyBird

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Oct 27, 2017
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I enjoyed FF7 Remake but it didn't...stick in my mind like I thought it would. It was cool seeing everyone in these graphics. But I thought it had pacing issues and the ending felt unearned. Like the developers knew they wouldn't get to many of the memorable parts of the original FF7 for many more years so they tried to shoe horn some of those moments into the first part of the Remake. In the story felt small in the end and that's because it was. They took a 10 hour segment from the original and spread it across 35 hours. Some of the additions I did enjoy like the expanded sections in Sector 7 and Wall Market. But stretching a minute long screen from the original into an extended walk with Aerith completely with a shitty crane game...not great.
 

b3llydrum

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Feb 21, 2018
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It's crazy that Nintendo treats the NES/SNES one way and the other systems they're completely ignoring.

NES/SNES Classic. NES/SNES online.

Nothing for N64. Baffling.
It's not... that baffling when you consider

- NES/SNES are 2D and N64 is 3D
- Button mapping is different
- Switch architecture is vastly different from existing platforms where N64 games already exist
- They ARE going to bring N64 games to the Switch platform, they just intend on drip feeding it
 

TheDinoman

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Oct 25, 2017
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I personally just think NES/SNES are the only games we're gonna get on NSO, and any pre-Switch game not from those systems will only be on Switch through $59.99 ports and remakes, as well as the ocassional temporary re-release like 3D All-Stars.
 

AquaWateria

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Oct 25, 2017
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I find it funny how some people think Legend of Arceus will be showcased for the Switch Pro when Game Freak isn't a developer pushing visuals like that.

Who knows I may be proven wrong and Arceus ends up looking great, but knowing their track record I'm holding my breath.
 

Aether

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Jan 6, 2018
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Even adding GBA would be better than the nothing they're doing. But N64 is such a huge hole right now.
To be honest, i like the GBA library more than the N64 for replaying i think.

N64, going by what they would get (you see, many publishers rather resell their games by themselves...)
The 2 Zeldas (overall Better versions on 3DS)
Mario 64 (replayed it recently...)
Paper Mario
Wave Race (want to try it, dont think i will play it a lot)
Mario Tennis/Golf---the same
Donkey Kong 64 (actually this would be fun)
Blast Corpse
Star Fox (3Ds...)
F-Zero (this one would actually be cool to play)
Mario Kart 64
Maybe smash, kirby, pokemon stadium...yeah, looking through the list the games i would like to play or try areunrealistic (because third party), adn the nintendo games i have or replayed already on the 3ds.

GBA...if they get konami and square there would actually be more games i would replay.
Heck, the Fire emblem games alone would be worth it. The Kirby games, old wario ware,
problem is really that the GBA has a lot ofgreat games...that are from konami or square or the pokemon company...

I find it funny how some people think Legend of Arceus will be showcased for the Switch Pro when Game Freak isn't a developer pushing visuals like that.

Who knows I may be proven wrong and Arceus ends up looking great, but knowing their track record I'm holding my breath.

With how the game seemed to strugle with the standard switch the pro would be a great way to have good looking trailers without a imediate backlash because GF is strugling...
tech entusiasts that where not happy with Sw/Sh could playit on the pro, and many others will be happy with a bad running game on the base =D
 

oatmeal

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Oct 30, 2017
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It's not... that baffling when you consider

- NES/SNES are 2D and N64 is 3D
- Button mapping is different
- Switch architecture is vastly different from existing platforms where N64 games already exist
- They ARE going to bring N64 games to the Switch platform, they just intend on drip feeding it

The switch can play 3D games. I've seen them

the buttons are the same as the Wii U which had it. The buttons on the Wii were even worse for this (needing you to buy another controller) and it was there.

There is no indication they will bring N64 drip fed or otherwise.
 

oatmeal

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Oct 30, 2017
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To be honest, i like the GBA library more than the N64 for replaying i think.

N64, going by what they would get (you see, many publishers rather resell their games by themselves...)
The 2 Zeldas (overall Better versions on 3DS)
Mario 64 (replayed it recently...)
Paper Mario
Wave Race (want to try it, dont think i will play it a lot)
Mario Tennis/Golf---the same
Donkey Kong 64 (actually this would be fun)
Blast Corpse
Star Fox (3Ds...)
F-Zero (this one would actually be cool to play)
Mario Kart 64
Maybe smash, kirby, pokemon stadium...yeah, looking through the list the games i would like to play or try areunrealistic (because third party), adn the nintendo games i have or replayed already on the 3ds.

GBA...if they get konami and square there would actually be more games i would replay.
Heck, the Fire emblem games alone would be worth it. The Kirby games, old wario ware,
problem is really that the GBA has a lot ofgreat games...that are from konami or square or the pokemon company...
Either way - something new added would be nice.
 

Aether

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Jan 6, 2018
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Either way - something new added would be nice.
Shure. Even gameboy would be interesting. Again, not substantial (most of its heavy hitters got remakes...(pokemon, links awakening, metroid, tetris, kirbys dramland...) only the oracle games would really be interesting.
But at least something.
 

AquaWateria

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be honest, i like the GBA library more than the N64 for replaying i think.

N64, going by what they would get (you see, many publishers rather resell their games by themselves...)
The 2 Zeldas (overall Better versions on 3DS)
Mario 64 (replayed it recently...)
Paper Mario
Wave Race (want to try it, dont think i will play it a lot)
Mario Tennis/Golf---the same
Donkey Kong 64 (actually this would be fun)
Blast Corpse
Star Fox (3Ds...)
F-Zero (this one would actually be cool to play)
Mario Kart 64
Maybe smash, kirby, pokemon stadium...yeah, looking through the list the games i would like to play or try areunrealistic (because third party), adn the nintendo games i have or replayed already on the 3ds.

GBA...if they get konami and square there would actually be more games i would replay.
Heck, the Fire emblem games alone would be worth it. The Kirby games, old wario ware,
problem is really that the GBA has a lot ofgreat games...that are from konami or square or the pokemon company...



With how the game seemed to strugle with the standard switch the pro would be a great way to have good looking trailers without a imediate backlash because GF is strugling...
tech entusiasts that where not happy with Sw/Sh could playit on the pro, and many others will be happy with a bad running game on the base =D

I think when it comes to Game Freak I just don't think more power is the solution. It's not gonna make their game somehow start looking visually better, maybe a little but not that much imo. The small staff and short development period are reasons why their games don't look as good as it could be.
 

undefined

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Jan 3, 2021
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Been using the 8bitdo Pro 2 for a few weeks, it's pretty great
Now it's pretty noticeable how joy-cons are so flat-shaped 😅

Mainly trying CrossCode and MH Rise

But I noticed one weird advantage of the joy-con aligned layout, dunno if I'm being insane

CrossCode is a top-down game with shooting, meele, dash, block, a modifier button that give access to special versions of these previous actions, plus a quick menu for items and maps and stuff

The problem is, due to it playing like a twin-stick shooter, you're mainly using the shoulder buttons and there's simply not enough of them. Press L to dash, hold L to block. Aim with the right-stick and press R to shoot, release the right stick and press R to melee.
Or, use the B button for instant-blocking, and Y button for instant melee

The 8bitdo back-paddles are pretty handy for this so there's that, I keep forgetting they exist but they definitely are helping

But when you use the joy-con you can rest the thumb over the face buttons and there's need to swap positions that much as the thumb is already over the right-stick

Tl;dr how back paddles are not default in controllers smh
 
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DecoReturns

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Oct 27, 2017
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I find it funny how some people think Legend of Arceus will be showcased for the Switch Pro when Game Freak isn't a developer pushing visuals like that.

Who knows I may be proven wrong and Arceus ends up looking great, but knowing their track record I'm holding my breath.
I thought it more for Performance. Not visual that people speculated Arceus for Switch Pro
 

Aether

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Jan 6, 2018
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I think when it comes to Game Freak I just don't think more power is the solution. It's not gonna make their game somehow start looking visually better, maybe a little but not that much imo. The small staff and short development period are reasons why their games don't look as good as it could be.
Small staff? I dont think less people worked on the games then on things like BotW. I think even more...
the lack in time to finish the games is definitely a big factor, no question.

The power wont make the game magically look better, but it will help make the game run stable and not push the resolution tooo low. Thats what i expect it to be onbase switch: strugling to keep 30fps, and falling as low as 480p.
See xenoblade (that looks better, but also strugles in that regard) for an example.
 

Adulfzen

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Oct 29, 2017
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I find it funny how some people think Legend of Arceus will be showcased for the Switch Pro when Game Freak isn't a developer pushing visuals like that.

Who knows I may be proven wrong and Arceus ends up looking great, but knowing their track record I'm holding my breath.
It's more a case of showing the game under the best light possible which would be using footage running on the revision.
 

b3llydrum

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Feb 21, 2018
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The switch can play 3D games. I've seen them

the buttons are the same as the Wii U which had it. The buttons on the Wii were even worse for this (needing you to buy another controller) and it was there.

There is no indication they will bring N64 drip fed or otherwise.
The architecture of the Switch is different from the Wii U. Believe it or not, programming is not just "copy and pasting".

Also, yes, there has been direct indication of that.
 

Leo

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Oct 27, 2017
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I find it funny how some people think Legend of Arceus will be showcased for the Switch Pro when Game Freak isn't a developer pushing visuals like that.

Who knows I may be proven wrong and Arceus ends up looking great, but knowing their track record I'm holding my breath.

I think people are expecting it to run better on the Pro, but I still wouldn't hold my breath. GF seems to struggle with optimizing their games regardless of the system they're working with.
 

carlosfilho

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I don't know what I feel about this video...


Some really bad takes in this video. "Nintendo doesn't have a big title like 3D Mario or 3D Zelda for this holiday". The DP remakes might not be "big" for some people, but the thing is, Pokémon games sell like hot cakes so yeah, it's a big deal. 3D Marios and Zeldas don't happen every year, either. "Nintendo is not going to focus too much on Metroid Dread due to past Metroid franchise sales"... They have been posting series of tweets about the game every week. "Nintendo doesn't need another Direct this year because the calendar is full"... They have to outline their calendar until the end of the fiscal year and begin to market their releases until March. Partner Showcases and Twitter drops for major first-party games are dead.
 

SammyJ9

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Dec 22, 2019
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"Nintendo doesn't need another Direct this year because the calendar is full"... They have to outline their calendar until the end of the fiscal year and begin to market their releases until March. Partner Showcases and Twitter drops for major first-party games are dead.
Yeah, what? That's a bizarre take, considering that Nintendo's calendar is ALWAYS full for the rest of the year by the time they get to a September Direct. That's a given. The September Direct is mostly to focus on reminders/updates for games coming out the rest of the year, and more importantly, show off games for the first quarter/half of the following year
 

AquaWateria

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some really bad takes in this video. "Nintendo doesn't have a big title like 3D Mario or 3D Zelda for this holiday". The DP remakes might not be "big" for some people, but the thing is, Pokémon games sell like hot cakes so yeah, it's a big deal. 3D Marios and Zeldas don't happen every year, either. "Nintendo is not going to focus too much on Metroid Dread due to past Metroid franchise sales"... They have been posting series of tweets about the game every week. "Nintendo doesn't need another Direct this year because the calendar is full"... They have to outline their calendar until the end of the fiscal year and begin to market their releases until March. Partner Showcases and Twitter drops for major first-party games are dead.

I agree with what you said, but I think what Spawn meant in regards to Metroid Dread is that while it's gonna be a good holiday title at the end of the day it's still a Metroid game so it won't be a big seller. They will definitely push Metroid Dread, but I imagine Nintendo isn't expecting it to a big holiday title for them sales-wise something like DP remakes or Mario Party. Those games will definitely be the heavy hitters for the holiday.

Edit: But yea I agree with everything else especially in regards to Directs. I wouldn't necessarily count last year only because of COVID messing up their marketing schedule.
 

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Decided to get back to Slay the Spire and I still suck. Keep failing towards the end of Act 3 no matter what.

Oh well, still a fun game, though.
 

DecoReturns

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Oct 27, 2017
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Mario Party Superstars is a major release honestly.
It's got a prime Fall release date. Late October.

will it reach Similar numbers to SMP? Probably not, but you'll never know, that title must've over-performed big-fold.

But obviously the biggest release for Nintendo this Holiday is SMT V and Advance Wars.😏
 

Oregano

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some really bad takes in this video. "Nintendo doesn't have a big title like 3D Mario or 3D Zelda for this holiday". The DP remakes might not be "big" for some people, but the thing is, Pokémon games sell like hot cakes so yeah, it's a big deal. 3D Marios and Zeldas don't happen every year, either. "Nintendo is not going to focus too much on Metroid Dread due to past Metroid franchise sales"... They have been posting series of tweets about the game every week. "Nintendo doesn't need another Direct this year because the calendar is full"... They have to outline their calendar until the end of the fiscal year and begin to market their releases until March. Partner Showcases and Twitter drops for major first-party games are dead.

Super Mario Party also sold 10m copies for the new Mario Party is probably going to be massive too.
 

AquaWateria

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Oct 25, 2017
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In my alternative reality, Nintendo pushes SMTV really hard during November and it sells beyond expectations.

It somehow sells better than Persona and Atlus starts going ham on SMT spinoff games.
 

SammyJ9

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Dec 22, 2019
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In my alternative reality, Nintendo pushes SMTV really hard during November and it sells beyond expectations.

It somehow sells better than Persona and Atlus starts going ham on SMT spinoff games.
It's getting good WOM so far, and it seems to be in a pretty good release slot - It's VERY different from either Mario Party or Pokemon remakes, so a lot of the more hardcore fans might pick it up even if they normally wouldn't just because there's not a lot else coming out. Now, better than P5? I have doubts, but I wouldn't mind it! I've never played any of the SMT spinoffs (unless you count Strange Journey) and an SMT tactics games sounds like a blast on Switch
 

Mediking

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In my alternative reality, Nintendo pushes SMTV really hard during November and it sells beyond expectations.

It somehow sells better than Persona and Atlus starts going ham on SMT spinoff games.
It's gonna sell really well but it ain't touching Persona. Unless there's some heavy Persona related stuff going on outside what we've seen…. Lol
 

Homura

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In my alternative reality, Nintendo pushes SMTV really hard during November and it sells beyond expectations.

It somehow sells better than Persona and Atlus starts going ham on SMT spinoff games.
I'm worried Pokemon will overshadow it, I know they're remakes but releasing a monster catching RPG a week before a Pokemon game is never a good idea
 
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