Thanks for the space debris Elon.
Polluting earth and beyond so that people can play rocket league and download animes is great.
That's a nice dream.Screw the rest of the world's ISPs, this needs to become an international system and owned by nobody
I think you just explained how you missed it. imagine if you had good internet, you probably would have known :P
I sadly remember wishing for a T1 like connection when all I had was dial up.LOL
Got me there. I hate that my option is AT&T wireless or T1 <-- 🤣
You can now register on the Starlink website to be notified of when the service will be available on your location.
Yep I signed up already. My local Tesla salesman let me know by email as he knows I'm eagerly awaiting Starlink to go public. They also now have a Model Y on the showroom floor!
I'd like to get into the beta, but he said the chances are very low as they will only be inviting a small number to beta test. I'm ready for modern internet speeds, and this is my only hope for them.
If those speeds are true, even at general speeds that is still 3x faster than what I have now for download and 40x faster for upload.Awesome, hope you qualify. I just found some information on the type of plans Starlink might offer at first. The speeds they can offer should increase as they add more satellites to the constellation.
"Broadly speaking, Starlink is best at providing connectivity to remote, isolated users (farms, small towns, remote residences), so our system offers a good solution for those users who are hardest to reach via fiber. Service levels of 100 Mbps down / 40 Mbps up would generally be anticipated, but depends on how dense the user-base is within a region. Latency will be very low, ~30 ms or so, far quicker than existing satellite-based solutions due to our much lower orbit, and comparable to fiber. User segment is a 19-inch electronically steered antenna, mounted on one's rooftop."
They are working on fixing the light pollution issue. One of the prototypes with reduced reflection/light is already in space.We're allowed to have takes on things, right?
I'm pro games, I'm pro technology, I'm pro musk, I'm really open minded and progressive.. I'm not saying that to get in to this, it's my way of life, nobody tell me I'm bsing to fit in them drop an alternative view. I'm expressing this view from the perspective of someone with endless love for the natural world and the wonders of our deathless skies.
the idea of saturating our skies with satellites, perverting our view of the night sky and the work of scientists on the ground, makes me sick.
Edit: i live in Japan with cheap unlimited high speed internet, so i recognise that my view is skewed. If i still lived in Australia i might feel differently, but i would still hate the idea of polluting the skies.
I'm aware of that, but the mass is up there and i don't imagine it being invisible will render it immaterial. And anyway, the ones without reduced reflectivity aren't getting cycled back down for upgrades, right? If they did that at least I'd be more charitable. But, yes, my point stands that i wish we would leave virgin territory alone for once in our collective history~They are working on fixing the light pollution issue. One of the prototypes with reduced reflection/light is already in space.
I'm aware of that, but the mass is up there and i don't imagine it being invisible will render it immaterial. And anyway, the ones without reduced reflectivity aren't getting cycled back down for upgrades, right? If they did that at least I'd be more charitable. But, yes, my point stands that i wish we would leave virgin territory alone for once in our collective history~
who knows what'll happen if 20% of the moon's mass gets mined and taken to earth and our axis gets destabilised, or something similarly awful, and we start wobbling our way to a new seasonal cycle and all~
People underestimate how big the Earth is. People just can't understand this, specially when viewing the CGI simulations. The CGI simulations show the satellites as the size of a city.I'm aware of that, but the mass is up there and i don't imagine it being invisible will render it immaterial. And anyway, the ones without reduced reflectivity aren't getting cycled back down for upgrades, right? If they did that at least I'd be more charitable. But, yes, my point stands that i wish we would leave virgin territory alone for once in our collective history~
who knows what'll happen if 20% of the moon's mass gets mined and taken to earth and our axis gets destabilised, or something similarly awful, and we start wobbling our way to a new seasonal cycle and all~
if you really care about that you should petition your city to shut down/reduce the light at night since light polution is a way bigger issue than starlink
The expected lifespan of a Starlink sat is 3-4 years, at which time they will de-orbit them and they'll burn up on reentry.I'm aware of that, but the mass is up there and i don't imagine it being invisible will render it immaterial. And anyway, the ones without reduced reflectivity aren't getting cycled back down for upgrades, right? If they did that at least I'd be more charitable. But, yes, my point stands that i wish we would leave virgin territory alone for once in our collective history~
who knows what'll happen if 20% of the moon's mass gets mined and taken to earth and our axis gets destabilised, or something similarly awful, and we start wobbling our way to a new seasonal cycle and all~
It's good to know that they have a lifespan, I hope that means they'll be taken out of the sky one day if we figure out a better way to do things~ And it's good to know that eventually they'll all be low-reflectivity models.The expected lifespan of a Starlink sat is 3-4 years, at which time they will de-orbit them and they'll burn up on reentry.
Of all the Starlink sats that are currently up there, none of them will still be there in 4 years.
As their designs improve and they launch more, hopefully the ones with the measures taken to reduce issues will be the only ones up there as they continue to cycle new ones as older ones come down.
They are designing these to be cheap (relatively speaking) so they can just keep putting them up there as needed.
Hopefully as well since they will be on somewhat predicable orbits measures can also be taken to remove them from astronomical observations and data like they do for other things.
i don't think my take was ignorant bro, it was just different to yours, don't insult me. furthermore, i live in the mountains so i've no grounds to make that petition~ i agree with you, light pollution is a huge problem. I also live in a land of colossal fireworks festivals, feel awful for all the wildlife here on days like those~people really should educate themselves before making ignorant takes
if you really care about that you should petition your city to shut down/reduce the light at night since light polution is a way bigger issue than starlink
I totally get where you're coming from, but that's what people thought about plastics and everything else. Eventually the biggest dumpster in the galaxy is gonna fill up. The orbits are already crowded, it's not a problem at the moment, i grant you, but that doesn't mean it will never be one. As someone who's lived in many places around the world throughout my lifetime, I'm under no illusions as to the true size of the globe.People underestimate how big the Earth is. People just can't understand this, specially when viewing the CGI simulations. The CGI simulations show the satellites as the size of a city.
Just imagine your city. Do you think it has over 10,000 refrigerators? Now spread all those refrigerators evenly across the world. Each one would be cities apart. The Earth is extremely huge compared to 40,000 satellites.
Good points. Please don't paint me as being against the internet :)This shouldn't be viewed as an all bad situation. Space X is working directly with astronomers on reducing the light pollution from the satellites and its not like the satellites that are currently in orbit has ruined astronomy for everyone. There are billions of people still without access to internet on planet earth. Think of your life for a second without internet. The fact that you are using it right now to communicate your opinion should make you think how important it is.
But, yes, my point stands that i wish we would leave virgin territory alone for once in our collective history~
I'm expressing this view from the perspective of someone with endless love for the natural world and the wonders of our deathless skies.
I mean that's still much better than my 25 down and 1.5 up, and I would be a good candidate living in a small town, but I hope it's higher than that. Still, that upload will be night and day for me.Awesome, hope you qualify. I just found some information on the type of plans Starlink might offer at first. The speeds they can offer should increase as they add more satellites to the constellation.
"Broadly speaking, Starlink is best at providing connectivity to remote, isolated users (farms, small towns, remote residences), so our system offers a good solution for those users who are hardest to reach via fiber. Service levels of 100 Mbps down / 40 Mbps up would generally be anticipated, but depends on how dense the user-base is within a region. Latency will be very low, ~30 ms or so, far quicker than existing satellite-based solutions due to our much lower orbit, and comparable to fiber. User segment is a 19-inch electronically steered antenna, mounted on one's rooftop."
I mean that's still much better than my 25 down and 1.5 up, and I would be a good candidate living in a small town, but I hope it's higher than that. Still, that upload will be night and day for me.
For sure. Really curious what the cost will be.Yeah, I'm happy to see that people in your situation will have a big improvement. That is a good place to start with this service.
*crosses fingers*Everything I have read points to being a better value than most services.
My parents have some kind of wireless internet at their house (not sure if satellite, is australian govt. nbn fixed wireless sat?) and the latency is fucking garbage
I have nothing to back this up at all and it is 100% pure speculation, but I wonder if Starlink is the reason the last few SpaceX launches haven't lost video from the drone ship during landing?
I've grown more pessimistic as I've spent some time on the Starlink reddit. There isn't capacity to serve much of the population apparently. They're targeting 3-5% of the population I believe. The cost of the user terminals is a big problem. etc. Nobody really knows the speeds, I'm guessing more like 100 mbps is likely in practice, simply to preserve capacity.
It could be a godsend for a few in very rural areas, and kudos to them, but I'm increasingly pessimistic it can help in my situation which is paying too much for good broadband already. A lot of details need to come out. I suspect pricing will be quite high as well. If it serves rural, then there will be no competition, so they will charge much IMO. The same as current satellites do. This has got to be costing them an arm and a leg as well, so again they will charge IMO.
I mean that's still much better than my 25 down and 1.5 up, and I would be a good candidate living in a small town, but I hope it's higher than that. Still, that upload will be night and day for me.
To be fair, it was inevitable. and you really think the 2200 non starlink satelites in orbit right now are invisible? not having starlink doesnt make objects in orbit not a thing.Thanks for the space debris Elon.
Polluting earth and beyond so that people can play rocket league and download animes is great.
So instead of space junk its atmosphere pollution when they all fall back.
The Globe and Mail newspaper first reported that space exploration company SpaceX applied with Canada's telecom regulator, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC), for what's known as a Basic International Telecommunications Services, or BITS, licence.
I'm sure this question has been asked, but is the Starlink signal powerful enough to be uninterrupted during storms and such? I keep thinking of shit like Direct TV where any time it rains the signal fucks up.
No chance they will accept this even though telcos have been given millions with nothing to show for it.Oh ho ho...I wonder how the CRTC will kill this.
CBC: Elon Musk's company SpaceX applies to offer high-speed internet service to Canadians
Thanks for the space debris Elon.
Polluting earth and beyond so that people can play rocket league and download animes is great.
KEEPING SPACE CLEANTo be fair, it was inevitable. and you really think the 2200 non starlink satelites in orbit right now are invisible? not having starlink doesnt make objects in orbit not a thing.
The deadline for SpaceX to prove the capabilities for Starlink to the FCC so they don't get dropped from the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund is July 15th. Has there been any news on this?
I don't imagine they would keep it a complete secret but we gotta hear something about this very soon. Hopefully it's good news.