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Starfield: Shattered Space |OT| Snakes on a Planet
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Yeah unfortunately they ran smack into a lesser degree of Oblivion's level scaling issues... Again. I'm running all legendary superior weapons, quite literally the best you can possibly get in the game, and the enemies are starting to get really spongy at level 110+, I have most of the weapon damage perks unlocked, not sure what to do to raise my damage anymore.
Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy. I really enjoyed my time with the base game and I was excited to jump back in but this is really dragging down the experience.
I've definitely noticed some of this, though it's sporadic. Some enemies go down without a fight, others are a slog and a half wearing down. It reminds me of Point Lookout in Fallout 3, though not nearly as egregious. Those cannibals remain the most overtuned enemies in BGS' history
I am at level 40 and am getting fucking wrecked at the beginning of the DLC mission. Not sure I expected that and I haven't really played since launch.
It's incredibly bizarre. They know people spend hundreds of hours in their games, but have never been able to design around people reaching high levels.
With Starfield, it does not even feel like they tried. Their loot system makes zero sense, weapons scale accordingly so that you find mostly the highest quality corresponding to your level, as it should work. Suits? You are going to be level 200, and still be finding armor meant for level 20 mobs at most. Made even worse by the fact that Bethesda arbitrarily decided that only like 5 armor sets (the ugliest sets in the game, of course) in the entire game get versions of the highest quality.
I love how Va'ruunki has an aurora in the sky. It's a little thing that makes the planet so much more visually appealing. I hope they implement Auroras into other planets. It's something that is sorely missing.
Steam Reviews are mainly people who have beelined the main quest and not touched other content or people spouting the same anti Todd/Emil stuff that some gamers seem to love. There is some valid criticism in them but they are a lot of noise.
In the end it's more Starfield and it won't significantly shift peoples opinions. From what I've played once there is eventually a Starfield Complete Edition it will slot in nicely to the overall experience and the exploration is a lot better with a handcrafted planet space.
You must read the reviews, most people seem to be upset that it is more of Starfield. Others are this sort:
Got to do a few hours of the expansion. Overall I like it and I was happy to see how many unique environments the expansion has in just the opening hours. The fashion of the new planet is interesting too. I was curious how Bethesda would design an isolated space cults casual wear. Like a lot of Starfield the designs came out feeling scifi but practical. I also like the new town we get to visit. I'd say this is a much better successor to the idea of Winterhold from Skyrim. A once great city reduced to the brink of complete eradication thanks to a disaster. There's enough here that the player can actually imagine how great a place it must have been once. Compared to Winterhold where it's hard to think anything of it.
I also see why Bethesda decided to not send out review codes in advance. I don't think the expansion is bad. But it's clear just a few hours in. That if you didn't like the gameplay loop of the base game. Shattered Space will continue to do nothing for you. I have my own thoughts on the overall design of this expansion. But I think I'll save it till I play more. But for now I'm leaning towards thinking Bethesda threw in the towel and went back to designing a giant world space with lots of things in it. Instead of the Starfield method of 10-20 spaces of varying sizes. With lots of unique stuff in them.
I think the expansion is a little overpriced at $30. But not much point complaining. $20 expansions for games like these don't really exist anymore. Just too many people working on it to make it work.
All that being said my next hope is that the rumored second expansion is real and we hear more soon. I really do like Starfield and I'd like to see Bethesda expand on it in fun ways.
I also see why Bethesda decided to not send out review codes in advance. I don't think the expansion is bad. But it's clear just a few hours in. That if you didn't like the gameplay loop of the base game. Shattered Space will continue to do nothing for you. I have my own thoughts on the overall design of this expansion. But I think I'll save it till I play more. But for now I'm leaning towards thinking Bethesda threw in the towel and went back to designing a giant world space with lots of things in it. Instead of the Starfield method of 10-20 spaces of varying sizes. With lots of unique stuff in them.
I think the expansion is a little overpriced at $30. But not much point complaining. $20 expansions for games like these don't really exist anymore. Just too many people working on it to make it work.
All that being said my next hope is that the rumored second expansion is real and we hear more soon. I really do like Starfield and I'd like to see Bethesda expand on it in fun ways.
I also started this at level 40, and aboard The Oracle I just found that I have to be more alert when applying the 40+ health and 40 + trauma packs in my inventory (both on quick select). The enemies can damage you quickly, but even with zero manual health upgrades (just let it grow to 1000+ HP by leveling up) and no points spent in the combat tree, I found them easy to deal with once I kept routinely applying the health packs. Silver lining is I am finally leveling up the Gymnastics perk. I just sort of incidentally went into this with three skill points to spare (was focused on increasing crew size in the main game, but that seemed like it would be pointless for the duration of Shattered Space, so started banking them).
Picked the name Vindicator, now ready to venture into the storyline and the several side missions that are already popping up once you exit the High Council meeting. Andreja definitely seems like the correct companion for this, though a lot of her responses so far are fairly generic, both given her background and her being my character's wife. I know they had to plan this around mulitple potential companions, but I'm hoping she is better integrated into things going forward.
People must really burn through stuff. I spent ninety minutes combined looting the derelict ship in front of the Oracle (contraband out the wazoo), and playing through The Oracle mission. I picked up the physical special edition upgrade back in May for $20, so my expectations aren't over the top for this. Between that and $24 for the main game, this has been a worthwhile, if bug ridden adventure.
There's a bug in this (unsurprisingly). I had to enter a cave to look for someone, which I did, but I came back out, took down a number of phantoms or whatever they're called, and now I have no idea where the cave is and the mission marker points me to my ship. Guess I'll have to watch a vid on youtube to find the caves location again.
That is no bug. After meeting the someone you have to get out. That cave system is very difficult to navigate, but i found myself out after about 9 minutes of panic dodging all the vortex horrors or whatever.
Oh, is this a reliable way to earn achievements still with mods on Series X or is it just PC?
This is one of the more sensible Starfield assessments I've seen. Totally agree now that I'm a few hours in. A POI generation update at some point and another expansion would really put this game in a great place. Still, I'm enjoying what's here and appreciate the work of the devs in spite of the mind numbing discourse.
You must read the reviews, most people seem to be upset that it is more of Starfield. Others are this sort:
I agree. It is so sad...
Anyways I'm loving it thus far
Yeah on the whole they are a fucking mess regardless of games, reviews can be really useful but you end up with a lot of junk data in there. Most devs have trouble filtering through the noise - Valve doesn't care because it's still engagement for them.
10 hours? Im at 5 and haven't completed a quest past the introductory ones
I am, it's not too bad (lvl 15 right now), gear drops in the new content catch you up quick, specially the varuun guns which are way better than anything you may have dropped in the base game.
Im also on extreme damage taken and normal damage dealt
Agreed. It's hard for me to justify buying DLCs this short for a high price ever since Witcher 3 Blood & Wine was $20 and gave you 30+ hours of content.
Yeah I'm convinced if you wanted to do the main story, all side quests and visit most of the POI it would be upwards of 15 hrs.
Mortismal gaming said a comprehensive playthrough is about 10 hours, he already has his 100% review out despite getting the DLC same time as everyone else and several steam reviews claim it's short but you might be a super slow player idk.
+1 for crazy level scaling nonsense. I think I'm at level 107, and man did the enemies in the first mission take a ton of hits to take down.
Yeah I super trust Morts reviews and he is overall a fan of the base game as well. $30, 10 hours, good expansion that has flaws. It's one of those things where I already bought the premium edition and have definitely gotten my money's worth from the base game so I'm not complaining, but objectively it's really lacking.
I do think it's pricey for what it is, BGS has been pretty bad with their pricing this gen for DLC and Creations overall. I hope they take a better look at that long term.
This is the main reason I don't look at Steam reviews anymore. The average Steam review is a pointless exercise in seeing what other people think.You must read the reviews, most people seem to be upset that it is more of Starfield. Others are this sort:
I find the seemingly broad distaste around the price to be super interesting seeing as quantity doesn't equal quality. The DLC appears to achieve and in some ways exceed the base game in terms of quality going off of reviews... asking a premium for current gen development is completely understandable and more sustainable to meet expectations.
Also... kind of funny how Nintendo seemingly can get away with charging whatever they want with few people batting an eye.
Also... kind of funny how Nintendo seemingly can get away with charging whatever they want with few people batting an eye.
Haven't played it since launch, but the dlc looks cool. Is it just more of the same? You have to actually pay for this right? It's not included with gamepass right?
They call me diviner and I put on a stream for a little bit and they were calling the streamer something else
All valid points - the one critique I see on the main subreddit that resonates is that $30 should get you new ship parts and at least one new offworld PoI.
I don't think those are too much to ask for what you're paying?
You must read the reviews, most people seem to be upset that it is more of Starfield. Others are this sort:
War. War never changes.
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You must read the reviews, most people seem to be upset that it is more of Starfield. Others are this sort:
This person is absolutely going to buy TES6, despite what their review says. That's the Bethesda magic.
For sure... but they did just give us a free vehicle, and I suspect we're in for many more improvements in the future. Perhaps they're trying to figure out how to keep the train running while giving out as much as they can.
Though it certainly would have been nice if the DLC included some more extras for that price.
This is the first dlc where it is kind of a chore for me to get started lol. I did a Unity run mistakenly and so i lost all my ammo and weapons and now i need to do the artifacts again but have no gear. I just used a console command to give me credits to buy stuff at New Atlantis. Idgaf about achievements. Still need go get all the artifacts and then get andreja.
Still, its getting me accustomed to the gameplay and menus again at least.
Still, its getting me accustomed to the gameplay and menus again at least.
Apparently new POIs have been added to the proc gen pool so that's cool.
