RDR2 also has invisible walls if you climb up the mountains.
Youre right though halo infinite, gears of war etc are absolutetly the exact same thing as a massive BGS rpg
Starfield Review Embargo ends August 31 at 9AM PT (UP: Many UK outlets did not receive code, Eurogamer has a code now, review will be late)
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RDR2 also has invisible walls if you climb up the mountains.
Youre right though halo infinite, gears of war etc are absolutetly the exact same thing as a massive BGS rpg
I mean, is it really surprising there are people out there looking to nitpick this particular game to death?
well, we don't have exact measurements, but the rough math insinuates that they're each way way bigger than Skyrim
it takes twice as much time to walk from your ship (presumably at the center of the explorable area) straight to the border of the explorable area around your ship, as it does to walk the entirety of Skyrim from east to west, apparently. even with the fudgy bullshit 'how long it takes to walk x distance in two different games' math, it's still pretty clear that landing zones in Starfield are each several times larger than the entirety of Skyrim at minimum
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Ah, I missunderstood the post. Thes were just talking about landscape not stuff you can find there.
RDR2 also has invisible walls if you climb up the mountains.
Youre right though halo infinite, gears of war etc are absolutetly the exact same thing as a massive BGS rpg
I was just typing away
The point is 99.9% of games has boundaries and no go zones.
The complaints here are wild
I cant take Friday off :( but it looks like Ill be working on 4 hours of sleep or less hahah.
Im taking the next Friday off though
Rumor has it that you can't even morph into a centaur in Starfield? Like wtf lol??? 0/10 trash heap
Ah wait my bad thought you were complaining about the boundaries
I heard you cant manually fly to andromeda what kind of fucking game is this todd!?
It's a joke about the other poster saying the game will be like Daggerfall. I guess you never played Daggerfall.
That Wanted trait which leads to mercenaries hunting you down would play nicely into that. Didn't they even show footage of the mercenaries right outside of your ship confronting you in the gameplay deep dive? Maybe it was their ship.
Edit: I checked, It was their ship. Here's hoping they can raid ships too!
I miss Oblivion parchment UI. Pretty ugly but was immersive AF.
I have and i understood. As a lad I spent like a week in some dungeons completely lost and diseased out of my mind lol
Lol yeah I believe so. Is that your pic?So I'm catching up on the news from earlier and I don't think I'm understanding how it works. Is this image accurate?
So, can the loaded areas of the planet overlap? Like, if I choose one landing zone (not the big, "proper" ones, but just a literal random point on the planet) to land, and then I leave and land on a point directly next to it, will the explorable area be relatively similar, or will it generate an entirely different seed for that explorable area, even if they should ostensibly overlap?
Or is it precisely like that above image, where there's either imaginary or imposed space between the permissible areas to land despite you being able to technically land "anywhere"?
Not that it really matters, but I'm curious as to the specifics of it.
Or is it precisely like that above image, where there's either imaginary or imposed space between the permissible areas to land despite you being able to technically land "anywhere"?
Not that it really matters, but I'm curious as to the specifics of it.
Jet Pack isn't a trait though, it's a skill. Otherwise totally agree.
So I'm catching up on the news from earlier and I don't think I'm understanding how it works. Is this image accurate?
Seems like it, though I feel like the landing spot will almost always be center of whatever tile is explorable.
So I'm catching up on the news from earlier and I don't think I'm understanding how it works. Is this image accurate?
Edit: Had a visual joke for it but never mind, it might be seen as mean-spirited. But yeah, that's my understanding.
lol yeah (amazing Paint skills I know). I was reading all these tweets on the way home about this trying to conceptualize how this works. Apparently though we can land anywhere? I guess the game just generates a playable space of a predetermined area around wherever land.
If every landing point gives me a Skyrim-sized tile to fuck around in, I would have never known you couldn't actually walk around an entire planet if the specifics hadn't been disclosed because that shit's for crazy people.
Explore the POIs, scan local flora & fauna if I haven't 100% explored the biome yet, then get back in my ship and fuck off somewhere else.
Explore the POIs, scan local flora & fauna if I haven't 100% explored the biome yet, then get back in my ship and fuck off somewhere else.
the spoiler thread had this discussion for like 10+ pages it was hilarious lmao
Plus I'm assuming it's going to be like Mass Effect where you're only there to get the 1 POI that is on the planet and then leave anyway.
With only 6 days before reviews drop and this being the last weekend in a pre-Starfield world, what is everyone playing this weekend/week?
Age of Empires IV. It's so good and they did a wonderful job with the controls.
Also easy to take a break from when Starfield happens, since there's no story or where you are, you need to keep up with.
With only 6 days before reviews drop and this being the last weekend in a pre-Starfield world, what is everyone playing this weekend/week?
Shining the Holy Ark on my Sega Saturn 😄
I would hope it's more than one based on how large they said the area is.
Starfield is getting a lot of attention and not all publicity is bad.
Ya this is where I'm at. I also really really want to avoid a situation where I have a gamepass locked save and want to mod but the mod requires the steam version. I'm not one to replay games so that would just fucking kill it for me.
Nah it's great haha, boils down PlanetGate quite nicely
You can set your own landing spot in addition to the suggested ones the game throws at you, but IIRC the leaker tried placing a cluster of landing points right next to each other and they each produced their own distinct bubbles without any overlap. So your image still works!
(This isn't really spoilers, just responding to the Q. I just realized this isn't the leak thread so I'm tagging to be extra careful)
Time is a flat circle, not unlike Starfield's planets.
I'm sure there will be pretty vistas and animals/plants to check out but otherwise I bet:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0RnCD2Zs0
Anything more then a POI per planet and I'll be super surprised.
But what is the playable area? How much is static/dynamic? What exactly is procedural? Is it all flat land with some rocks? Deserts? Or are there different types of jungles with different densities?So I'm catching up on the news from earlier and I don't think I'm understanding how it works. Is this image accurate?
Is there variety in things like cliffsides, valleys, caves, etc? Are there large areas like playable buildings and cities? Or are they all handcrafted? I have so many questions lol
Does it really matter? What would the answer need to be for you to not want to play anymore?
The good thing about the leakers wasting all their time trying to circumnavigate planets on foot is they're not playing the actual game enough to spoil absolutely everything.
The Direct already answered a lot of this.
Planets have been procedurally generated with handcrafted locations (points of interest, cities etc) and also can dynamically add (also handcrafted) points of interest like mines or whatever as you explore. They've shown off a decent variety of environments including fields and caves.
Just watch the direct.
The absolute madlad putting in over 12 hours a day. This guy games
Man's averaging 12 hours a day he's a unit. No way he's putting in that much time and not loving it.
Also multiple reviewers seem to think this whole planet traversal controversy is dumb or overblown. That should show whatever the situation is it doesn't affect the flow of the game in any negative way.
So the question is, which review outlets can be trusted to give an honest review and not be overly biased either way. I'm planning to use the reviews to decide if I want to pay the extra £20 for early access.
I don't think we'll know until some serious datamining, since the zones are pretty small relative to the landing selection globe. Not quite sure on the measurements since I don't even know how to approach those calculations, but eyeballing it and based on the one measurement we do have of zone size (40 minute walking radius), I'm pretty sure the landing zone icons on that globe representation are a lot bigger than the actual zones themselves. So it's probably near impossible to verify by testing alone since it's impossible to guarantee you've got an adjacent zone. Like, placing a zone right next to another on the globe wouldn't actually get you an adjacent zone, you'd probably need a significant degree of overlap between the icons and I imagine that may not even be possible with cursor snapping likely being a thing. All this assuming the globe is properly scaled and planets are relatively 1:1 with real life, which granted may not be the case
So basically who knows? I could see it working either way, though since terrain is said to be consistent on a single planet regardless of playthrough, I'm thinking that the proc gen is on a planet basis and thus adjacent tiles should be rather similar since the algorithm would probably take that sort of thing into account. This tracks with what the dev team has said about them generating a bunch of tiles and then wrapping them around a globe. It's just that, for all practical purposes, you're never going to actually see two adjacent zones, at least in vanilla
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